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Tantric massage therapies

92 replies

Patrickjane · 14/05/2012 12:36

is this for real?
Official, professional?

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Lueji · 15/05/2012 15:12

I think it sounds great.
Send him on a course and get him to give you one several.

garlicfucker · 15/05/2012 15:18

Indeed, Lueji. There are several tantric workshops for couples. Perhaps he'd like to learn how to celebrate your yoni more soulfully, OP.

Patrickjane · 15/05/2012 23:49

Bizarre
He tells me he's going to work late tonight.
Comes in at 9.30 and I honestly thought he was do tired he couldn't talk properly. Then realised he was pissed!

But he was going to try and get away with it until his friend called about leaving his card at the bar.

Then he says he told me he was going out, and he relaxed and had a good time and I should get off his back.

He did not tell me, definitely not.

I'm speechless
He's now snoring and I have no spare bed to disappear to,
Fucker

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garlicfucker · 15/05/2012 23:55

Oh. Dear.
:(

garlicfucker · 15/05/2012 23:55

oops, missed Angry off

AnyFucker · 16/05/2012 07:22
Confused
Dawn7171 · 16/05/2012 18:28

Hmmm so a bit like female tantric Yoni massage then...

Patrickjane · 16/05/2012 21:02

Nothing to report here. No time to turn around right now.
He acted like everything was fine this morning
DS had a terrible nights sleep so was in and out of our bed.
Feeling pretty shitty
Was out today with my family.
It's not immediate family, and my house has been taken over.!
I love them but could really do without it right now

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AnyFucker · 16/05/2012 21:28

Could you not tell your visitors you are having some personal family problems right now, and would they mind cutting their visit short ?

You need to sort your head out

and tackle your cheating husband

this situation is playing right into his hands

by the time your visitors have gone, you will be chalking this up to a bit of a blip

Patrickjane · 16/05/2012 23:08

Then my immediate family would have to know and I'm not sure I'm ready for that
And my cousin is here for some really important meetings so dont want to mess him around

They should be out daytime tomorrow so will have some thinking time

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AnyFucker · 16/05/2012 23:16

why would you have to tell them the details ?

Patrickjane · 17/05/2012 18:15

They are all leaving tomorrow and been out all day today.
If I asked them to leave because we had a few personal issues, my parents would be on the phone in a minute worrying about what was wrong. I'm not up for that until I sort this out with him

Ultimately I don't trust him and haven't for a long time.
I know instinctively that he tells lies, for whatever reason.

I dont think it's an affair, in some ways that would be preferable to what the alternative could be.

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izzyizin · 17/05/2012 18:28

You've done amazingly well to keep the lid on this while you have guests staying over.

When you confront him, go with your instincts as he will wriggle and deny and lie until he knows his game is well and truly up.

You know him better than we do and I have no doubt you'll be able to form an accurate opinion of what he's been up to from his attitude and body language.

MadAboutHotChoc · 17/05/2012 18:28

Oh dear Sad

Hope you are wrong but sadly I don't think you are - always trust your instincts.

AnyFucker · 17/05/2012 18:33

Affair versus being a user of the sex industry

I know which I woud prefer (if I had to choose...)

MadAboutHotChoc · 17/05/2012 18:37

It takes a twisted person to think its ok to buy sex, it tells you a lot about their views of women and sex.

Its the worst way of cheating IMO.

I would get checked for STDs Sad

Patrickjane · 19/05/2012 01:19

No proof of anything, what do I do?

Feel completely useless

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ThereGoesTheYear · 19/05/2012 06:33

OK, what you do know is that he made an enquiry online to buy sex. He also lies to you, and gaslights you.
You mentioned upthread that you/he? think he may have Borderline Personality Disorder. How does this manifest itself?
You sound desperately unhappy. You don't trust him. You don't need any more proof.

izzyizin · 19/05/2012 18:36

Surely it's enough that he made an enquiry to buy sex onlline? What else do you need to confront him?

Patrickjane · 20/05/2012 01:02

I know that if I'm unhappy I have every right to just leave the marriage.
But wrt this 'event', he could and would completely talk his way out of it. And he could have made the enquiry on a whim, or just for the thrill of it or he could have fucked some woman senseless on my living room floor.
I don't know. And I will never know unless I have evidence
Will come back about the borderline diagnosis. Its my diagnosis, far from official. I have trawled through all the abusive partner books and this seems spot on.

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izzyizin · 20/05/2012 01:18

If he denies it went any further than an enquiry, I'd be inclined to present it to him as 'the game's up' scenario along the lines of 'don't bother trying to lie your way out of this as one of the neighbour's told me that a woman came here when I was away' and then tell him that you're not going to engage in any more conversation on this matter until he tells you the truth.

AnyFucker · 20/05/2012 17:49

Well, if you apply that kind of "burden of proof" approach to this, it appears the only way you would get what you need is if you found him with his cock actually in some other woman's mouth

Patrickjane · 23/05/2012 14:08

Just to come back with the BPD, I wrote this for a different thread
I haven't talked to him yet, he really is in a bad way

I have struggled with my husband for years. At first, he would just react to everything in an unusual way. Unpredictable, but also he would do things that just didn't make sense. E.g he would suggest doing things in a much more complicated way, or suggest going to certain shops in a completely illogical order, putting hours on the day

Then it was the intense anger, and the control, and the abuse aimed at me.
Mood swings, hyperactivity, complete overreactions to small inconsequential things.
Can't work out how other people will feel about things, cannot ever put himself in their shoes
Anxiety, has serious stress/worry issues which result in physical responses. Has really bad stomach issues , which can be immediate, following a row.

Emptiness, loneliness, hates his life( which is pretty good)
grass is always greener somewhere else
Really truly believes he is hard done by, cannot see the good in his life

Impulsive self damaging behaviour
drinks too much, too much drugs, gambles on everything
sexual promiscuity before I met him
possibly infidelity since, involvement with escorts

Munchausen's
He pretended he had a brain tumour, radiotherapy

Cannot reason with him, once he has an idea in his head, that is it, no changing it.

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garlicfucker · 23/05/2012 15:00

:( ... and you're in this relationship because?

Patrickjane · 23/05/2012 20:33

Well I guess at first I thought I should try.
Then I had no job and nowhere to go and serious financial problems
Then I tried to leave a couple of times
But always gave in to him
He always persuades me to come back

We did used to have fun
And it was good, but maybe I just didn't know him well enough

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