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Welcome to the Turning Tavern II: Now in 3D

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Gay40 · 18/04/2012 12:11

Welcome!

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Gay40 · 24/04/2012 21:30

The problem is with opinions on here is that really, truly and honestly, you can't tell if someone is interested. So as much as we might speculate that Sleepless's WIQ is very keen but in denial, Likea's is slowly on the turn and the Bolter has a PhD in The Art of the Mixed Message....the truth is, we have no idea from the words we read.
And I speak as a woman who was asked on a date and took a bloke with me for moral support.

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Loveisthemessage · 24/04/2012 21:31

Polly - did you ever get a response from your morning-after-the-night before email or text?
Likea - I'm well impressed by your memory for details and ability (and energy) to dissect each situation. I think we have a veritable Miss Marple in the Tavern! Smile
Sleep - I think you can be direct with your WIQ if it upsets you when she discusses this man-date or maybe even pull away and feign disinterest. That hooked her back last time. Wonder how you're handling your partner in all this. Has he cottoned on to your new found friendship?
Evening to Hep, Crushing and Gay
Yes a large strong tea for me please.

pollyblue · 24/04/2012 21:36

Loveis yes, she replied the next day, friendly email, couple of kisses.

Tea coming up Grin

Crushinghard · 24/04/2012 21:37

Evening Hep.
Go on then Polly, just a little biccie.

Does anyone else feel a bit vulnerable posting all this info on mumsnet? I do. How would we feel about moving it to a closed/secret Facebook group?

pollyblue · 24/04/2012 21:38

Gay you're right and they only way any one of us is going to know for sure is to ask v bluntly 'can I have a shag please?!'. And then ask for written confirmation of reply lest it's a 'yes' and we faint.

Loveisthemessage · 24/04/2012 21:38

Yes, Gay (always the still calm voice of reason) we can but speculate but it's quite enjoyable innit?
Likea - I am probably overly optimistic as that's my nature but I will be quiet now and get back in my box.

likeatonneofbricks · 24/04/2012 21:39

I'd love that fat biscuit polly! and tea natch.Grin Had a stressful day yest.

pollyblue · 24/04/2012 21:39

hep I have thought about that on and off, but tbh know little about potentially 'safe' internet sites (is there really such a thing?)

Gay40 · 24/04/2012 21:40
Grin
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pollyblue · 24/04/2012 21:40

sorry that was to crushing not Hep.

Biccie coming up Hep and tea (strong) with biccie (fat) for Likea too.

Loveisthemessage · 24/04/2012 21:41

Crushing - yes I often wonder if friends can ID me on MN but then not sure many of my friends are on MN. How does a closed FB group work? Would we finally get to see all the Tavernistas?

Crushinghard · 24/04/2012 21:42

Meant to say good evening to you too Loveis.

likeatonneofbricks · 24/04/2012 21:43

polly - you did forget how she asked and then disappeared? why the terse email from you, if this wasn't the case? you wre climbingthe walls here!
Crushing agree it's be great to meet for tea in rl! btw could roughly tell me your age? just being on the subject of older women being harder to turn, if you one natch.

Gay40 · 24/04/2012 21:45

I don't know how a closed FB group works but I think I'd enjoy chatting.

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Crushinghard · 24/04/2012 21:45

I am on a weight loss secret group and it means none of my friends can see the group exists or what is written in it.
Im happy to set one up if there are enough of us interested. If you pm me I can sort out adding people. No problem if not, just idea.

pollyblue · 24/04/2012 21:46

Yes I remember, but she was ill and busy with work (and is crap with emails, both social and work) soooo yes, was irritating but it was (in retrospect) all done at her usual speed ie I don't think she was deliberating stalling.

I'm just an impatient hussy Grin

pollyblue · 24/04/2012 21:47

Yes, I think I'd be interested too crushing

Loveisthemessage · 24/04/2012 21:49

Me too Crushing

Crushinghard · 24/04/2012 21:49

Okay, I'm going to message those of you who have expressed an interest with my email address. You'll need to add me on FB and then I'll add you to the group. Feel free to either keep me as a friend or not, I won't be offended!

HepHep · 24/04/2012 21:51

I'd be fine with a secret FB group too. This is a very public forum to be discussing such stuff, at least some of it anyway.

D'you think lesbian tea works like catnip, or those high pitched whistles inaudble to certain people but heard by others?
Okay, that was random. I need chocolate.

likeatonneofbricks · 24/04/2012 21:52

Loveis it's not the same as going for adrink with a man who fancies you! Women are often friends with women (not so much with men) so if a gay woman wanted to find a female friend she'd meet with certain caution until she reassures the woman that she's no agenda. But gay women are not seen as promiscuous and it's thought that she wouldn't jump on every woman so surely polly's wiq COULD genuinely want to be friends, and therefore go for drinks if polly told her she's no agenda and is generally seen as nice! If wiq was genuinely curious she wouldn't talk about dating men a lot and feel so at ease - if anything if she fancied polly she'd be very careful with touching not blase and so at ease. why does no one thinks she may want friendship and that's it. we already talked here about her desire to feel attractive and possibly flattered by p's interest, but she'd be a lot more proactive an dseeking her company and more a-flutter if this was real interest.
sleep you must give her time, as I say she's getting her head around it. She might even get scared and stop at some point, there aer no guarantees with women or men, but just let her be, she will soon decide what she wants. It's only been DAYS since you got closer physically (massage and gazing etc.)

Crushinghard · 24/04/2012 21:54

msg me if you haven't had a msg from me and are interested in the fb gp.

sleeplessindenial · 24/04/2012 21:55

polly have you seen my new profile pic Grin

I have wondered about whether wiq might see this and then decided I didn't care Blush as I've only spoken the truth and I've told her how I feel so she wouldn't be to surprised at what she reads.

How can she tell me she would never lie, cheat or hurt me - implying a relationship type thing and also say how much she is looking forward to her date! Hmm

I do actually think I know what the problem is and as crass as it sounds I think its sex. She likes sex, and I don't think she could imagine having it without a penis involved. She has told me she wants all the relationship stuff from me, I know she cares about me and sometimes I can see that she is thinking of kissing me.

I haven't given much though to sex.

I think of she could choose she would have a relationship with me and sex with a man, maybe even just for appearances sake as I can't see her wanting to talk about this sort of stuff to her adult children.

I might be totally wrong though.

Dp does know that I am seeing a lot of wiq, he knows I think a lot of her. He's not very pleased to be honest he hates her but he doesn't like me seeing anyone so I'm used to that.

sleeplessindenial · 24/04/2012 21:59

I have sent a pm Smile

Crushinghard · 24/04/2012 22:00

Damn, I had myself as unsearchable but you should be able to find me now.