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How to cope with a negative personality

58 replies

NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 11:40

Name changed here

How do you cope with someone that is rather negative?

This is a typical scenario, apologies for my rubbish explanation (find it hard to put things in actual writing, but hopefully you will get the gyst Blush )

Boyfriend of 3 years went out to watch footie and his team won so was in a good mood on returning.

I'm in the kitchen putting veg on for dinner.

BF: You didn't have to do that, I told you that a sandwich would do.
Me: It's only a sausage casserole that took no time at all to cook.

BF asks if he can help (I think, here we go!). He goes to keep an eye on the cale simmering.

BF: Why don't you get some lids for the pots, It would make it cook quicker.
Me: Shrugs.

After dinner he insists he washes up. Bashes about and water flies out of sink due to him doing his Edward Scissor Hands impression. During this time he comments that my kitchen needs better organisation. He points to pots etc. hanging up and says "bet you don't use all them things, all you need out is what you use".

After washing up (making a holy mess on the floor). I say nothing and just start wiping it. He asks why I'm doing this, I say "Because since you're still wearing your shoes dirty puddles are being made". Well, then that's it, he starts spouting off that it's not necessary and he hasn't made a mess and why don't I get a mop anyway"

I'm mad now and tell him I've never met anyone so negative in my life before, blah blah blah.

Also if one of the kids (we both have them with different partners) comes to show us something they have done and are obviously proud, instead of congratulating them on getting say, a B+, he'll point out that next time they need to aim for an A! gRRRR!

Does anyone else live with a man like this?

(whilst it seems rather funny in a "slapstick" comedy way, it does tend to drag you down). Sad

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/03/2012 11:44

That's not a negative person, that's a self-centred PITA. Criticising, being awkward, sulking, unable to encourage anyone. What is he about 18 years old? I'm not surprised it's dragging you down and I don't think it's funny at all.... Wouldn't tolerate it.

AutumnSummers · 28/03/2012 11:47

What Cogito said. He sounds like the kind of person who would argue that black was white. Is he otherwise a good fit for your family?

Ciske · 28/03/2012 11:49

Mmh... I guess it all depends on how you interpret it. He helps with the cooking, washes up afterwards, makes a helpful comment on how you cook kale, asks you not to go through too much trouble for him, e.g. no need for a big meal.

Then you snap at him.

He could equally well write an AIBU about why you were being so negative when all he tried to do was help.

AutumnSummers · 28/03/2012 11:52

Ciske good point!

CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/03/2012 11:53

I see your point Ciske... but if this is what he's like in a good mood (football team won) what would he be like if they'd lost? Hmm

lostboysfallin · 28/03/2012 11:53

That's not really negative, any other examples?
Sounds like he was trying to help, maybe being a bit critical, but you sound a bit over sensitive

Rillyrillygoodlooking · 28/03/2012 11:57

Ciske, or he could have said thank you to the op for going to the trouble of doing more than just a sandwich.
Dh has spent years telling me how I could improve myself, house, etc. if it is put forward as a "you should" suggestion all the time it gets wearing and the positive is buried in the mire of criticism. And they certainly don't like that kind of talk back to them.
Dh and I were nearly planning divorce last night because of this.
Obviously this no help to the op, sorry Blush

CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/03/2012 11:58

Come on people... if someone really thinks pans need lids or kitchens need reorganising or mops should be bought, they would do it themselves. Otherwise it's just bad-tempered nitpicking for no purpose other than to be unpleasant.

LowFlyingBirds · 28/03/2012 11:59

The thing with the kids would grate, but failing to see a major issue otherwise. I thought it wa you that sounded negative tbh.

NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:03

Yes, you could argue that all he was trying to do was help but it comes across as help that he probably doesn't want to do really if you get what I mean?

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Rillyrillygoodlooking · 28/03/2012 12:03

Maybe a little thing is top of an avalanche of other little things that amass into one ginormous thing.

Just saying

NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:07

Ok, another scenario.

We take the kids out shopping, his son needs new trainers etc. and wants to go (we have him for a weekend in probably 3 due to BF's job in the public sector and shifwork). BF dishes out the money willingly but walks behind with a face like a slapped arse all afternoon. Why on earth can't he make the most of having his son for the day? Have a laugh for a change, involve himself abit. His son never goes to him but to me for a positive imput rather than negative.

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NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:07

Yes, Rilly, you have hit the nail on the head exactly. It's soooo many little things that make the mountain don't they Sad

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LowFlyingBirds · 28/03/2012 12:10

Yes, in that last scenario he sounds horrible. Selfish and immature.

Rillyrillygoodlooking · 28/03/2012 12:14

Exactly that. And I then find I go to def con 5 of frustration at the slightest inconsequential thing.
I am trying hard to see the positive things that Dh does and to be fair to him he did stop himself telling me what I had "done wrong" this evening. Hmm
We have had so many talks about it. I try to suggest what I can do to make the situation better first and then ask him to let the little things slide as it is soul destroying to be picked up on nearly everything.

Rillyrillygoodlooking · 28/03/2012 12:15

It sounds like he needs a good talking to when it comes to his DS tho Sad

NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:16

Yet he's seen as a hero in his work. To be able to explain things properly I'm going to have to say what he does for a living (believe me this is not a stealth boast), he's a fireman and has been for the last 27 years. Do you think they become kind of "conditioned"? Maybe?

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NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:16

As in the "taking" charge thing? Always around blokes, so they come across differently?

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NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:18

I have talked to him about the situation with his DS many many times Sad. He just doesn't get it at all! But he has improved a bit I guess. He tries to do the "jolly" a bit more.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/03/2012 12:19

Some people are just grumpy by nature, which is their perogative obviously, but I don't think they have any right to inflict it on others. I know a couple that can't do anything together without being grumpy, bickering or snapping out insults at each other - they're like Pete & Dawn, the neighbours in Gavin and Stacey - and they are bloody miserable. This is one situation where counselling might help everyone be a bit nicer to each other. Worth a shot?

ionysis · 28/03/2012 12:22

There must be more to it than this surely. Many men I know would find an afternoon out shopping worse than having bamboo shoots forced under their nails, kids or no kids. Surely he is allowed a bad mood or is he only supposed to be Pollyanna?

In regards to your OP I read he is appreciative and undemanding (didn;t expect you to go to a lot of trouble) helpful (offers to wash up, makes useful cooking suggestions) like many men wants to "problem solve" (kitchen organisation).

You on the other hand come accross as ungrateful (can only see the negatives in HIS actions not gald he is trying to help) passive-aggressive (pointedly start wiping up his mess under his feet) and hyper-sensitive to any percieved criticism.

I can't see what the poor guy has done wrong apart from being a bit inept with the washing up and MAYBE at a stretch rather tactless with his kitchen re-ordering sugestions.

NameChanger100 · 28/03/2012 12:23

Yes, Cogito maybe a bit of coucilling would be beneficial (I've even started reading books on how to communicate better).

He is a fab provider and very unselfish in the bedroom etc. It's just his "grumpyness" that gets everyone down. In fairness to him he has two jobs to support his ex and 3 kids.

We both want the same things out of life etc.

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HardCheese · 28/03/2012 12:24

Not to belittle your feelings about the situation, which sounds genuinely infuriating, but you also come across as a touch passive-aggressive in your example. The 'oh, here we go' response to his offer to help, the shrugging, and the silent mopping of the floor all sound martyred to me, and I'm now sure what his job has to do with how he is around you and the children.

I'm not pointing the finger in the least, and am annoyed on your behalf, because I'm assuming you've adapted over time to these goings-on, and perhaps you've tried direct communication endlessly and failed. But what would happen if you said 'Darling, can you mop up that water by the sink?' or 'Look in the cupboard and find a lid for that saucepan, please'...?

HardCheese · 28/03/2012 12:25

Sorry, NOT sure what his job has to do with it.

LowFlyingBirds · 28/03/2012 12:27

Ionysis- its not normal or acceptable to indulge in moodyness on the 1day in 3 weeks you spend with your kid. The mans an arse.