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Really need some advice on a new relationship

80 replies

TheOriginalNutcracker · 27/03/2012 11:13

Righ, bit of background, i'm a single mum of 3, been single for 6 years with one painful fling about a year ago.

So, a boloke i used to work with starts flirting with me on fb. I already know him obviously, cos i worked with him, but also cos he is a mate of the bloke I had a fling with, although they are not close mates.

I wasn't at all sure about starting a relationship with anyone, mainly because I have alot going on with the kids and moving etc atm, but I agreed he could come round as a mate a few times, and things progressed beyond mates (not sex though). He wanted/wants a relationship and after getting over me nerves and reservations about being hurt again, i agreed.
We went out for lunch yesterday and had a really lovely time and i was sure i'd made the right choice.

Later on the night he came round again, and met my kids. They did already know about him btw, and two of them had met him previously once while we were out and about. I would never normaly introduce my kids so soon. Kids loved him, he loved them, they all got on fab.

So, later on, on the night things got heated and we attempted to have sex BUT he couldn't keep an erection. I was honestly not at all bothered or worried about this and put it down to first time nerves or something. I would have quite happily forgot about it. However, his reaction is what has caused the problem.

He immediatly pushed me away and told me to leave him alone, wouldn't speak or look at me. Both sat back down on sofa and he wouldn't let me hold his hand or arm or anything and started saying how this was never going to work because it would happen again and i'd not put up with not having sex etc. He said it had happened a few times before, but that normally when he gets comfortable with someone it's ok. He was quite angry, not towards me but just in general. He then cried and I tried to comofrt him and he wouldn't let me.

I can't quite describe what I mean, but it was a bit like a grown man having a huge tantrum/sulk. I had no problem with what happened except for his reaction to it. I said that surely it was up to me wether i could put up wth it or not, but that i wasn't sure i could put up with his reaction to it every time it happened, and being pushed away and made to feel like i did something wrong.

He kept asking me to decide there and then if it was over. I said that i couldn't decide just like that, and it wasnt fair of him to ask. He said he needed to know, and so i said that he'd have to decide for himself then, and he said ok, it won't work. He kept saying it, like he was waiting for me to change his mind for him.

He eventually left and he has now txt this morning saying that he is sorry, and he overeacted but that he can't help it. He wants me to tell him if we are finished or not.

I don't know, i really don't. Part of me thinks he is worth another chance, but then part of me thinks that i don't need the hassle, if this is how he is going to be. Plus what if he reacts like that to other situations ?

I feel like I have been so stupid, yet again, and either desicion, would be stupid too.

OP posts:
dickiedavisthunderthighs · 27/03/2012 22:18

OP, do you realise that there's a very high chance the 'honeymoon' period of your relationship will involve a lot of aborted sex, huge tantrums (on his part) and masses of hurt and reassurance (on your part)?

Why would you put yourself through this, this should be the good bit.

I honestly think you need to tell him that if he really wants to be in a relationship with you he needs to go and get some professional help to get to the bottom of his ED, including dealing with his reactions to it FIRST.

If he really wants to be with you he will do this.

UnhappyLizzie · 27/03/2012 22:19

Feel really sorry for this guy... but wouldn't wish sorting out his issues on one of my friends.

Don't do it, it's not your job.

Sex is meant to be FUN!!!

izzyizin · 27/03/2012 22:29

The OP seems to be on a mission to get older and wiser the hard way, rightchoice.

HepHep · 27/03/2012 22:32

It's all about the reaction, and nothing to do with the ED. In fact, the whole 'it being about his cock' thing is a total red herring. Would you have been happy to turn a blind eye to that kind of display in any other kind of situation? He threw a massive 2 year old tantrum! Normal people just don't do that. Especially not at the start of something promising. Most twats reserve that sort of blaming and bubbling fury for a few years in. I pity you if he's doing that on the first date AND YOU THINK IT'S OKAY.

My guess is you aren't over the last 'painful' relationship thing, and your radar is still fucked. I know because I have been there too. Stay away from dating until you are stronger.

rightchoice · 27/03/2012 22:49

izzy, she sure does. Ah well, watch this space.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 23:49

Get rid.

SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 28/03/2012 09:15

KarmaK I think I have just got your nickname and I love it.

Do I get the prize for the most off-topic post of the day.

BTW OP, I am very much a benefit of the doubt sort of a person, but in this case I think I would gatehr up my skirts and run like the bloody wind. Yes I feel sorry for the guy, but you have issues of your own..why would you buy into this (unless of course you are wildly smitten in which case it just MIGHT be worth a gamble)

ionysis · 28/03/2012 09:17

Excuse me, but the OP has decided she wants to give this guy a second chance, for whatever reasons. That is her prerogative and berating or bullying her into changing her mind is not exactly supportive is it?! Neither is patronising her with totally uncalled for put downs like the "older or wiser" comments.

Why don't we try to provide the OP with positive suggestions on how she might manage the situation and also keep an eye out for any further red flags so she can protect herself emotionally.

I hope you haven't felt pushed out of your thread OP by people insisting you HAVE to never see the guy again. What you do is entirely your choice and you sound like a sensible and self aware sort of a person.

Have you thought how you will take this forward and what indications you are looking for (both psoitive and negative) in order to judge whether its worth continuing with?

ColdTruth · 28/03/2012 09:23

Might as well just dump him he is already expecting it anyway, feel sorry for the next woman though his going to have serious issues.

SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 28/03/2012 09:25

Sorry I completetly missed the OP's post saying she was going to give him one more chance.

In which case, sorry for saying run like the wind. If this is what you want to do then go for it, good luck, and fingers crossed for you both!

Sx

TheOriginalNutcracker · 28/03/2012 11:46

Well having slept on it i am now thinking that i've made the wrong decision. As someone said further down, this should be the fun part of the relationship and it's not been so far.

This wasn't the first strop he had either tbh. On our first date he wanted us to go someone very local, and i didn't want to because people round here are gossips and I wanted people to know when i told them, not just cos they'd seen me out with a bloke. He took that as me meaning i didn't want to be seen anywhere in public with him and had a strop.

The daft thing is, i was never sure about him right from the beginning, but thought maybe I was being too cautious, so threw caution to the wind, but I was right first time, it wont work I don't think.

He is coming round for a chat tonight, so I will be telling him that we can be friends but nothing more.

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LiarsWife · 28/03/2012 11:55

Hi TheOriginalNutcracker Trust your gut .. as you've not been sure then that is your gut giving you warning

Is he coming round to your house? How will he take the news? would you be better meeting somewhere more public?

xx

elastamum · 28/03/2012 11:56

The start of a relationship should be great, you are just getting to know each other and he should be on his best behaviour to impress you. If it isnt great now, and it looks like it really isnt on lots of levels, it wont get any better as you go on. Do yourself and your children a favour and end it now. You deserve better.

DowagersHump · 28/03/2012 11:58

Oh dear - that is a massive red flag - two strops already? He sounds really controlling and needy :(

I would probably sack him off this evening, especially if your kids are going to be around. I'd call him instead.

It doesn't sound like you really want a relationship with him at all but you feel like you ought to.

EasyOnTheChips · 28/03/2012 12:01

I wouldn't have him at my house, I would just call him now and end it.

I met a bloke last weekend and he seemed nice, I gave him my mobile number. He texted me the next day and we chatted back and forth a bit until he did a really passive-aggressive little message in response to me not immediately agreeing to meet up for a date the following week.

Talk about bloody entitled! Shock Arguing about the first date!

TheOriginalNutcracker · 28/03/2012 12:07

He's not coming round now, and I have ended it. I'd txt saying that we needed a good chat tonight and he wanted to know why and as soon as i said that I didn't think things were gonna work, he said fine, forget it then.

I know I am doing the right thing, just feel like a bit of a knob lol.

Going to pop out in a bit and get me and the kids something nice for dinner Smile
We move house in a couple of weeks and I want it to be a lovely fresh start for all of us. I think staying in that relationship would have mared that and plenty of other things too.

OP posts:
DowagersHump · 28/03/2012 12:18

Well done :) Have a lovely evening with the kids and give yourself a big pat on the back for listening to your instincts

Lovetats · 28/03/2012 12:36

Good for you! I'm sure it's for the best. Good luck with the house move!

ionysis · 28/03/2012 12:46

Your life will undoubtedly be easier without having to deal with his (obviously considerable) insecurities. I hope he sorts out his issues though poor bloke.

KarmaK · 28/03/2012 12:48

until he did a really passive-aggressive little message in response to me not immediately agreeing to meet up for a date the following week.

what did his message say?

Passive-aggressive men make me want to vomit! Sad

WineGoggles · 28/03/2012 13:26

OP, did you mentioned you didn?t want to see him again because of his strops rather than his ED? If not he will think it?s all about his cock and not his attitude unfortunately.

ionysis ?Excuse me, but the OP has decided she wants to give this guy a second chance, for whatever reasons. That is her prerogative and berating or bullying her into changing her mind is not exactly supportive is it?! Neither is patronising her with totally uncalled for put downs like the "older or wiser" comments.?
I agree. I certainly don?t like to see these sorts of comments, < sigh >s, rolling eyes smilies, and the slightly unpleasant undertone of some posts on this forum in general whenever a poster doesn?t agree with the views of others. It?s as though the support is conditional upon the OPs doing exactly what they are told by some other posters. It seems you can have an opinion only if it?s the same as the majority view otherwise you are treated like an idiot.

izzyizin · 28/03/2012 13:28

You know you've done the right thing and he's the knob, honey, not you.

Now the deed is done (or not, in this case Grin ) please don't be tempted to go back on your decision and, in future, keep trusting your instincts and canvass opinions here if you have cause to you doubt yourself.

ionysis · 28/03/2012 13:34

I don't see how the guy is a "knob". He has demonstarted that he is deeply insecure and not very good at dealing with his issues. That's accepted. But how that makes him "a knob" I don't know.

I agree the relationship would likely have been challenging for the OP and I'm sure she has chosen wisely in deciding not to give herself the headache of taking on someone with such obvious self-esteem issues but it seems there's a huge propensity to label anyone as a "knob" who has one. Rather uncalled for.

izzyizin · 28/03/2012 13:44

Jeez, where is it decreed in tablets of stone that the OP should give a flying fuck about the sensitivites of an insensitive twat who, during their short acquaintance, has given her grief on two separate occasions?

Given his behaviour, if there's any explaning to do it should come from him and as, he's declined her offer to meet up again for the purpose of talking over recent events, I see no need for her to subject herself to a further misplaced guilt trip.