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Finally slept with love of my life and think my heart is going to be broken

675 replies

ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 24/03/2012 09:16

Am devastated. This is long I'm afraid...
I've loved this man for four years. He lives in my town but we're from the same village orginally. He's 17 years older than me but in many ways my best friend and we are very similar. He works all over the world in patches - last year he was away probably about 20 weeks, so when he's here we spend a lot of time together.

I think he's always known how I feel about him, but he's never taken advantage, never embarassed me and has made comments indicating the age difference between us is an issue for him. But we've always had a very friendly, bickery relationship and our friends and his family jokingly call us a married old couple.

Thursday evening he returns home from abroad and we arrange to meet up in local pub with lots of mutual friends. He's in a really bright, jokey mood and at one point when our friends' attentions where on someone else, he told me he'd been talking with work colleagues about being away and love, etc. He said it was like a lightbulb moment and realised I was his soulmate and he loved me. I also applied recently for a job which would have meant eventually moving away and I think this made him stop and think. He's packing in the working away later this year so settling down aorund here. I couldn't respond cos my stomach was doing knots and I was half scared it was a horrible joke.

We left and walked to pub near my house and had a gin and tonic and he asked if he could come back to mine. I said yes, knowing what it would lead to, and it did. Not going to go into deep detail (it's early!) but we spent a lot of time talking, telling each other we loved each other, kissing, cuddling, and then yes, other stuff. It was the most open and honest and actually best sexual experience I've ever had. (Yes I KNOW how lame that sounds.) He said at one point this reason this was so great is that it was sex and love together, and I told him I'd never actually had that. (True.) He left as I had an early start the next day, and I went to bed the happiest person ever.

He made no contact yesterday at all. I sent him a cheerful good morning text and then in the afternoon a quick one to say I was popping into pub on way home if he fancied a quick drink. No response. I begin panicking. I rang a very good female mutual friend of ours and explained, swearing her to secrecy.) She was really excited for us, but said he's probably panicking about it and, knowing him as she does, scared of being rejected. So I text him before I went to bed saying I really meant everything I'd said last night and hope we can talk soon but it's up to him.

What has happened? Part of me is angry and thinks if he just wanted a quick fuck, why say the love and soulmates bits, and WHY WITH ME? But most of me is just gutted and wants to cry. I don't know what to do. I know this problem isn't as serious as many, but I feel like a major thing in my life has just been pulled away. Any words of advice/comfort will probs make me bawl, but will be appreciated.

OP posts:
myfriendflicka · 25/03/2012 14:10

Also agree with Chateauneuf.

MorrisZapp · 25/03/2012 14:13

Not good.

I understand ops need for answers, but you ain't going to get them by asking him straight out.

He isn't going to say 'actually, it was a mistake'. Men don't. He'll say whatever gets him out of the awkward moment the quickest.

Why do us women find it so hard to judge men by their actions?

I'd say his actions have clearly stated how he feels. I hope I'm wrong op, you sound lovely.

HillyWallaby · 25/03/2012 14:15

Exactly Chateauneuf. And OP whatever you do, do not allow yourself to be drawn into a situation where you sit around getting confused and increasingly needy for months while he tries to 'make sense of the strength of his feelings for you' or any other shit he might come out with. Do not allow yourself to become his personal ego-masseuse and Permanently On Call FWB. If he gives you the runaround and keeps you dangling after you've had The Conversation then do yourself a favour and WALK AWAY.

HillyWallaby · 25/03/2012 14:19

Yes, but Morris as Chateau said, his meaning and his intention will be made clear. If he skirts around the issue then that is as good as saying it was a mistake. She will know where she stands well enough, providing she doesn't allow herself to get sucked into over-analysing everything he says/does/does not say for months on end. If she needs to do that, then it is a NO.

ameliagrey · 25/03/2012 14:32

Does anyone bother to read the previous postsbefore adding their twopenneth worth? Because we have 15 pages saying the same 2 things- depending which side of the fence you are on!

  1. He is a knob and not into you.
  2. He is in a state of shock, confirmed bachelor blah blah, no good at relationships...

Oh FFS!

FWIW in all of my 50 + years on the planet Ive never known a man be in a state of shock after a 1 night standfirst time sex. maybe I am just no good in bed Grin

But seriously, if a guy is really into you , you will know.

I had a relationship with a guy 15 yrs older who was a virgin when we met- he was late 30s. he did not go into shock!

ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 25/03/2012 14:33

Hello all, can I first say I haven't read any threads since this morn, as I'm on my Crapberry, which is totally hopeless for internet.
Before I could ring he texted sayinng he was off yto narby nice town with work friends and could we meet tomorrow.
I went shopping and accidentally got dragged off street into pub so am currently surrounded by celtic fans and having a great time.
Person who dragged me in is a mutual male friend who often asks about my love life, but no intention of divulging anytrhing.
Just want a nice day! Sorry if this message looks weird, blackberry really is crap!

OP posts:
spendthrift · 25/03/2012 14:35

And.. are you going?

Great you're with friends.

Lots of sympathy and empathy indeed.

CalamityKate · 25/03/2012 14:37

Sorry, but IMO he's being a shit.

Nyac · 25/03/2012 14:40

When me and my best friend slept together and declared our love for each other, we then weren't apart for the next ten happy years. He certainly didn't go off down the pub and ignore my messages.

Only tools who like to treat women crappily do something like that. I agree with whoever said that he was reeling you in because you're getting a job that will take you somewhere else. How's he going to get his ego boost if you're no there to do it?

PineCones · 25/03/2012 14:46

What chateau said.
I had a friend who spent her twenties in love/lust with a man in his forties. It would have been dandy if he had played it straight. He led her a merry dance by being emotionally unavailable but and blowing hot and cold. It was only when she cut him out completely from her heart and her bed that she found the love of her life.
This man may remain a friend. You don't have to let go of that.
But I think you should make it clear to him- in your own way and your own time- that you are done with that side of things.

ameliagrey · 25/03/2012 14:50

I'm sorry too but he is not actually desperate to see you- is he?

I think the suggestion re. meeting is a token gesture, because he feels guilty over ignoring your texts and not following through with the roses and declarations- which is what he knows you ware wanting.

Please do not contact him at all- the ball is in his court.

Sdaly, this is what often happens when women have sex- they become more involved emotionally- but the man doesn't.

GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 25/03/2012 14:52

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jemsgem · 25/03/2012 14:53

well i think OP should send him a link to this thread with an invitation to tell us his side of the story :)

tribpot · 25/03/2012 14:53

Well he's rediscovered his missing texting talent all of a sudden Confused to put you off again in order to spend time with people he sees all week :(

GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 25/03/2012 14:54

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Heyyyho · 25/03/2012 14:55

Please stop being his beck and call girl

ameliagrey · 25/03/2012 14:58

Maybe you should say you have other plans for tomorrow- and see what he does then?

Haziedoll · 25/03/2012 14:59

Perhaps you are the love of his life and perhaps he will commit to you but in his eyes a committed relationship might just mean dinner and sex once a week. I think to get to the age of 44 and have never been in a serious relationship is quite telling.

He may turn out to be the most caring loyal guy but if ultimately you are looking for a conventional relationship and kids it doesn't really sound like he is your man.

Jazzicatz · 25/03/2012 15:03

I am in a very similar situation as the OP and am finding all your points of view really interesting. I too am involved with a coward and it really is tiring, constantly second guessing what they are going to do and if you are going to hear from them. I really do love him and spend ridiculously large amount of time thinking about him and the situation we are in, I really wish I could break this habit and find the strength to tell him to f**k off but I think my self esteem is just too low! Sad
I hope your situation Gin is better and it all works out for you, but I have to say from bitter experience it isnt sounding that promising. As others have said, if he wanted to be with you he would, all manner of pontificating is just putting off the reality!

Charliebigpotatoes · 25/03/2012 15:05

Been following this thread with interest and feel I need to add my bit!!
A good friend of mine and I started a bit of a fling after my marriage broke up, I started to think I was getting feelings for him so one drunken night I confessed all, he told me he had started to feel the same way but didn't know what he wanted. Cue no contact from said friend for the next week!
At a mutual friends birthday the following week it was pretty much as it was for OP in the pub. We were awkward and didn't really know what to say to each other. Later on once on my way home I decided to text him and politely tell him (or not) that I thought after all I had said to him he could have had the decency to at least talk to me and why was he being such a bastard!? Blush Cue another day of no contact! Was so embarrassed I felt like I'd been a complete idiot, especially as he'd already told me he didn't know what he wanted. But emotions can make us do funny things!!
Just as I was at the point of wanting the ground to open up and swallow me whole he text me saying that he was sorry he hadn't replied before but was confused and hadn't known what say. He didn't want out friendship to be ruined and was trying to work out what he felt. We met up, there were apologies on both sides and we properly talked things through. Things have now worked out great!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that everybody is different and they act and react in different ways. Reacting a different way to the stereotypical norm doesn't make that person a subnormal, emotionally crippled person! Let's give this guy a chance, see what he has to say tomorrow. I really hope things work out OP. Got all my fingers and toes crossed for you!!Grin

nkf · 25/03/2012 15:05

A couple of things. I have no idea what is going through his head but I wish you were feeling happier. Afternoon in the pub sounds fun though.

Another thought - were you really actually friends? If you've loved him for four years and you suspect he's known that, well, that's not exactly being friends is it?

He's a bit old for you as well, I think.

ImperialBlether · 25/03/2012 15:10

I think he's far too old for you, even though he's behaving like a boy at school who snogged a girl he didn't fancy and doesn't know what to do about it.

When you are in your early 50s, he will be 70. I'm in my early 50s and let me tell you, a 70 year old is not what I'm after!

He sounds very immature. You do realise you could find someone lovely who's a similar age to yourself, don't you? You do realise you were 10 when he was your age? Don't you think he should have grown up in that time?

CuriousMama · 25/03/2012 15:15

Hmmm putting you off again eh? Well it's up to you but I wouldn't put up with it. Did you text straight back?

badtasteflump · 25/03/2012 15:21

Hi again OP. Yes it's good news that he (finally) texted. And I hope you hear what you want to hear tomorrow. But please be careful to not let him conveniently forget his declarations of love three days ago - if he meant it he will still be starry-eyed and full of it, not cool and pally again. I suppose what I mean really is, don't let yourself become his 'back home fuck buddy' - you deserve much more than that and don't you forget it Smile.

TakenYears · 25/03/2012 15:22

Wanted to say something about deeply emotional situations, because strong emotions for me, like romantic situations, in the past have made me lose the ability to speak and articulate anything for a good couple of days. It's like when feelings are all up front like that I'm literally speechless - and it takes me a day or so to process anything and find my voice again. I'm like struck dumb!Confused