if you were a man for the day.....

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How would u spend it ?

SunRaysthruClouds if your children live with you, who looks after them from 6.30am til 7.30pm?

mid-late teenagers youngest in 6th form - so not an issue

Still working on getting them to tidy up the kitchen after themselves. Not easy.

not really children I guess

Just go for a walk, maybe to get a pint of milk or to the pub, without constantly having to think of my personal safety.

I know this is a 'jokey' thread, but there is a re-occurring theme here - that of going out alone - and my earlier question was not answered. So, here, from the UK home office violent crime figures;

Risk of becoming a victim
? The risk of being a victim of violent crime one or more times a year for those interviewed by the BCS in 2003 was 4.1 per cent. According to the 2002/03 BCS, young men aged 16 to 24 were most at risk, with 15 per cent experiencing violence in the recall period (Table 1b and Simmons and Dodd, 2003).
? The risk of experiencing acquaintance violence (for those aged 16 and over) was 1.3 per cent and for stranger violence 1.6 per cent. For mugging the risk was 0.9 per cent and the chance of being a victim of domestic violence 0.6 per cent (Table 1b).
? Overall, the risk of violence was higher for men than for women. The risk of stranger violence for men was over three and one-half times that for women; men also had twice the risk of acquaintance violence. Domestic violence was the only type of violence that women were at greater risk than men (Table 1b).

From crowan-scat.sunderland.ac.uk/~harryerw/mirror/CIS302%20Lectures/background/typologies/standards/uk/home_office/counting_rules/rdsolr1804.pdf

It seems that women are at far greater risk of harm at home. Is this why so many want to go out??

Sorry but I think the reoccuring theme here relates to the scratching of ones balls

It might be useful for you to look at reporting levels and also consider the messages that women are given about their personal safety in our society, sanjeev.

Even if women are safer going around by themselves than men, you would never think it if you look at adverts, television programs, magazine articles, advice given to young people about how they should behave, public information messages, statements from the police etc etc.

It's also about whether could defend yourself or run away though. I wouldn't be able to fight off or run away from a man.
Does this data include rape?

I would go and sit in a pub by myself and know I would not be pestered by men trying it on.

It is not a crime to approach women in pubs, but if you do not want to be approached it is bloody annoying.

So I would go and sit in the pub, on my own, with a paper, and a pint, and be able to do that in peace without odd looks or hassle.

And Sanjeev, we all know about the convinction rates for sexual assault / rape

I would go out for a drive in the country, get lost, and refuse to ask for directions.

"I would go and sit in a pub by myself and know I would not be pestered by men trying it on."

Don't bank on it. when I was a student I went to a late night film at a cinema where there were about 3 other people. A bloke came and sat right next to me and started touching my leg after while.

I don't believe any of this, I think if you suddenly had a willy you'd just play / experiment with it all day. I can't believe that if they are as amazing as men say you would be able to take your mind off it at all.

I'd time it for a day when our child was ill and then GO TO WORK regardless.

I'd have a shower in peace. I would hand said child to my wife after breakfast and then go and get ready for work uninterrupted, whilst wife makes my lunch. Although I'd have a long commute, I would do it without a toddler chatting to me the whole way, and so could read a book.

I would work really hard all day, and not spend any time on MN!

then after a long commute home (without child annoying me), I'd arrive to find child in bed, and dinner ready for me. I would help with the clearing up though.

I may have a wank, just for the novelty value.

So are we talking about fear of crime here, rather that actual crime?

'you would never think it if you look at adverts, television programs, magazine articles, advice given to young people about how they should behave, public information messages, statements from the police etc etc.'

I cannot think of any examples to substantiate that last bit. Are you saying that there are adverts about our risk of being attacked? I also cannot imagine any senior police officer being brave enough to advise women to avoid certain parts of town, or to dress in a certain way. He would be slaughtered. Am I missing your point here? Sorry if so.

All of the stabbing crimes/deaths I can think of in the last few years have been committed on young males. I would be far more worried about my son going out than my daughter.

As I said at the start, women are at far more risk of harm in the home, from people they know. Over 90 per cent of domestic violence has a female victim. Surely a sensible place like this would be the place to stop peddling perceived risk/urban myths, and start to identify the truth?

Sorry for bringing the thread down, I know it was meant to be light-hearted.

Big posters up on <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=tfl+cab+advert&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=fCmbWxKOpuFSHM:&imgrefurl=youaredoingthatwrong.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/victim-blaming-and-taxi-cabs/&docid=RvyOnaRQLf1AzM&imgurl=youaredoingthatwrong.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/w9tiy.jpeg&w=415&h=560&ei=q_pET8SXBMPE8gPT_8TZBA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=399&sig=107566779655659111226&page=1&tbnh=170&tbnw=126&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=0CIkBEK0DMBE&tx=66&ty=83" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the tube for women to look at while they are waiting to go home from work / go out of an evening / go about their business

I would spend the entire day playing with my cock in some way. Oily wanks, soapy wanks, stick it in a fleshlight, fuck a woman in as many different positions as possible, scratch my nuts often (there?s clearly something in it!). And when I?m exhausted from all that sex I will watch football on TV whilst drinking beer to see what the appeal is. And I?d play at aiming my piddle into different vessels every time I pee to see how hard it is to hit the target.

Recent police statement after someone was attacked saying that women should follow the standard advice of not being out alone after dark. Will try to find link.

Oh yes, those emails that get circulated telling women about ruses which are being used to attack them. Email lists of things women should do to avoid being a victim of rape (eg not have long hair, carry an umbrella at all times and other titbits)

Do we really need to do all this? There are stacks of examples, google is your friend.

sanjeev

"As I said at the start, women are at far more risk of harm in the home, from people they know. Over 90 per cent of domestic violence has a female victim. Surely a sensible place like this would be the place to stop peddling perceived risk/urban myths, and start to identify the truth?"

So logically you think that women should not live with men? I think that is unlikely to happen and not very desirable.

You could start a thread about it I guess, see what people think?

Sanjeev. This is just one example about police advice.

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/11/joanna-yeates-murder-impractical-advice

Probably best to discuss this issue elsewhere though, don't you think?

I still want to do my wee standing up

Anyone remember "she-wees"?

Poor old DD tried to do a wee off the top of a slide when she was 3, after the boy next door did it. Poor little poppet learnt a valuable lesson of being female there!

Jeez, SQ. Just more evidence that people who work in advertising are deserving of a cull. Along with anyone in TFL who approved this. Just all adds to the fear of crime.

Yes, Sanjeev, I think this was supposed to be a lighthearted fun thread.

An interesting discussion though, perhaps start a thread about it in the appropriate forum?

That's a good article esperance and covers a lot of the points that have been raised

Yup, needs to be taken elsewhere. Back to the light-hearted stereotyping we go