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I'm not happy and feel generally uneasy

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Generalunease · 17/01/2012 00:17

I've been with dh for nearly nine years and married for seven and a half of those. We've had our problems along the way but (due to me ignoring lots if things) we've generally done ok. However recently I feel really lonely and fed up and all the things I've buried and ignored are bothering me.

He has always been a difficult character in that he us very moody and prone to bouts of sullenness and sulking, the smallest thing can set him off for example I was on the phone once to a friend and our online grocery delivery arrived. She was upset so i carried on talking to her and he got the hump that I didn't help him and stormed out the house and drove to the shop to get some beer. At the weekend he went of on one because the Avon lady came and I asked him to answer the door and give her the money. I feel line I walk on eggshells with him.

The next issue is that he had an uneasy relationship with booze, I think he drinks too much and for the wrong reasons. It makes me uncomfortable but as I am not a big drinker I dont know if I'm making toouch of this?

Sex has been a problem for me in that I feel like we only ever have sex on his terms, when we first met he would freeze whenever I tried to try it on with him or try anything on him to the point now I only have sex when he instigates it and won't suggest any things to try as I don't like the rejection. My self esteem has been ruined as a result, he never kisses me or says he loves me or pays me compliments and he is only affectionate when he wants sex. I feel so unattractive.

Communication is dreadful, I can't discuss anything with him -literally. If I try and discuss something he finds difficult he'll walk away from me and refuse to discuss it whilst getting angry and defensive if I try and continue. I can't share my thoughts with him for fear if this rejection. When I had PND after DC2 he never asked if I was ok and how I was doing and when I had CBT for chronic anxiety he never once asked how it was going. We relocated here three years ago when DC2 was six months old and I had PND, I dealt with all the house moving stuff - estate agent, solicitor, removals etc. He didn't/couldn't do it and I felt so resentful that I had to do it all with a toddler and newborn. When I phoned him crying because our dreadful purchasers were being a pain he had a go at me and put the phone down on me, he called me two hours later drunk and expecting things to be ok.

I have been on anti depressants since the end of November for chronic anxiety, I feel so much better but now I reel Luke this I wonder how much of the anxiety is due to him or is it me?

I feel sad to think this is what the rest of my life be like and when my three children leave home what will I have left :(

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AnyFucker · 17/01/2012 01:09

No, you haven't failed

He is the failure

As a decent partner, and as a father

You shouldn't feel guilty. It sounds like you have tried your very best and he has not responded in a collaborative way.

Passive aggression is a terrible trait to have. It seems he has cultivated it over the years, because it has always achieved his objective of getting things his own way

We cannot tell you what to do love, but you do have to think very carefully whether you want your children to grow up thinking this is how relationships work

but more importantly, whether you actually want to live like this, now you are realising what it means for you

Generalunease · 17/01/2012 01:10

The sex thing us a major problem, it's affected
me so much I'd I ever did go it alone I don't know if I could have a sexual relationship again. I couldn't cope with that rejection and I'd always be wondering if I was good enough in that way.

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Generalunease · 17/01/2012 01:11

AFyou mentioned counselling again, I think i might look onto this.

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AnyFucker · 17/01/2012 01:11

he is also a nasty sexual manipulator...he uses your normal and natural sex drive and wish to be intimate with someone you love, and twisted it into something else he can batter your self esteem with

I hate this man

AnyFucker · 17/01/2012 01:12

love, re. the sex thing

he is the abnormal one, not you

he doesn't like women, this man

AnyFucker · 17/01/2012 01:13

I have to go to bed now

I will check on you tomorrow, OP x

HedleyLamarr · 17/01/2012 01:50

Hello General. You had my hackles rising when you said you were 'walking on eggshells'. Your subsequent posts have not changed my opinion. It's about control, he's achieved it, but you're fighting back. Good. Keep fighting, and get rid. Take your life back. Anybody who makes you walk on eggshells is a bad 'un. All the best, it's my bedtime too. Like AnyFucker I'll be here tomorrow. Sleep well.

CailinDana · 17/01/2012 06:33

OP I feel rather in awe reading what you have dealt with. You seem very very strong. To deal with a house move when you have PND, a newborn, a toddler and an actively useless husband really is amazing. I know what you mean about divorce being a failure but remember there's no one out there keeping score on your "successes" - all that matters is that you're happy, like your late DH said.

It sounds me like your DH has a lot of serious mental health issues. He doesn't seem capable of coping with life at all. If he recognised that and tried to get some help then I would say to give him a chance, but he's been like this now for a very long time and has done nothing to rectify it - in fact I would imagine if you tackled him on it he wouldn't admit that there's anything wrong. It's not your job to prop him up while he continues to hurt you. You've put massive effort into this marriage, but it's not worked, so it's time to move on if at all possible.

malinkey · 17/01/2012 08:36

General - you sound absolutely amazing to have coped with all this. If you were on your own away from this horrible man you would be surprised at how well you'd do.

He sounds similar to my ex in many ways, particularly with the sulking passive aggressive stuff and the strange attitude to sex. He does sound very controlling. I started having panic attacks shortly after I got married and at the time I didn't connect it with the way my ex was behaving but looking back it seems so obvious that was why it started. There has been research that has shown emotional abuse to be a cause of PND. I wouldn't be at all surprised if your anxiety and depression issues were entirely due to your situation.

If he could change things around and start treating you how he should would you actually want to be with him? If not, there's your answer. If you would, do you think he would be willing to do anything about it?

Life is too short to live like this - you (and your children) are worth so much more. If you left him you would cope. And once you got that malign influence out of your head you would no doubt flourish.

You don't need his agreement or approval if you did decide to leave him. As SGB says, anyone can choose to leave an unsatisfactory relationship. It doesn't mean you have failed.

There are ways of dealing with lack of money etc so don't feel that you're trapped forever because of that. It might be worth talking to someone at CAB to see where you would stand financially if you split and what benefits you might be eligible for. And I'd agree that counselling for you is a good idea - don't bother with relationship counselling, go just for you to talk about everything, including the anxiety.

As an aside, something I've found really helpful for anxiety is mindfulness meditation. I listen to the recordings on this website (www.getsomeheadspace.com). I've been doing this for a few months and while I still get moments of anxiety it's nothing like it used to be and I feel so much calmer generally. The Mental Health Foundation website recommends mindfulness and they have their own online method (www.bemindful.co.uk).

fergoose · 17/01/2012 08:55

I agree with everyone else General - you sound utterly brilliant - and he sounds utterly awful

I am sorry you have been through so much sadness - and I really wish you nothing but happiness.

I admire you for you strength and courage

Becaroooo · 17/01/2012 08:58

Oh that sounds awful OP

I am not surprised you are anxious/depressed.

How do your dc cope with him?

AnyFucker · 17/01/2012 09:05

how are you today, General ?

a late night for you

did you sleep much at all ?

malinkey · 17/01/2012 09:05

And I meant to say I feel far less lonely now I'm living on my own than I did when I was still with my ex in a horrible situation.

CamberwickGreen · 17/01/2012 09:23

what would you like to happen OP?

oldwomaninashoe · 17/01/2012 10:08

General, I suffered similar with my exH, he too spurned my advances and was left feeling the ugliest woman in the world. I never knew why or how I had upset him because the moods were random.

It took me to reach rock bottom, and to realise that this was no way to live my life that made me call time on the marriage.

His departure made me feel like a huge burden had been lifted from my shoulders and I can say I never looked back.
I would reckon that your anxiety would almost disappear overnight if you could summon up the strength to tell him to shape up or get out.

Try and remember who you were, what you were like before you started altering yourself to suit him. Thing is you will never suit him or stop the moodiness and sulking.

You only get one life......

LesserOfTwoWeevils · 17/01/2012 10:40

What everyone else says: he's horrible and controlling and you sound lovely.
And much stronger than you think.
He's worn you down to make you think you need him.
He's causing your anxiety problems and they will disappear when he does.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 17/01/2012 10:57

What everyone else said.

You deserve better.

Ephiny · 17/01/2012 11:09

I think anyone would feel anxious and unhappy likving with someone like that. He sounds a very unpleasant and quite pathetic man - like a spoilt, sulky, overgrown child. His behaviour on your honeymoon is just horrible :(

You deserve a better life than this.

TheCrunchUnderfoot · 17/01/2012 11:42

You sound lovely OP.

I'm so sorry that you've been through so much.

Yes, be happy. You should. We only get one crack at it... This doesn't sound like something you can fix or something which is down to you at all.

Maybe the first step for you will be staying put here for a while gathering your thoughts and some advice and some confidence, before you decide what you want to do.

Sending you a virtual MN-ly clap on the back and a promise to return to the thread later.

Generalunease · 17/01/2012 16:16

Wow thank you all for your kind messages of support I really do appreciate it. I didn't get much sleep last night in-between mulling stuff over and DD2 teething!

I have contacted a relationship counsellor today and am seeing her next Monday, hoping it will help me clarify a few things in my mind. Also will get some advice on financial assistance if I decide to leave.

I feel really confused as he was so nice this morning and chilled out but probably because I spent three hours trying to keep DD2 quiet so he would sleep off his bad mood :( Why do I do this?? I have aided his behaviour, I have just recalled when DS was about three weeks old and howling during the night as he had acute reflux, I was sobbing as I could'nt settle him and DH was sleeping in the spare room. He came in as he heard me crying and said "no wonder DD1 is so whiney when you behave like that" and t6hen stormed off.

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 17/01/2012 16:20

It's great that you are making these associations, general. That is the kind of thing that can be very productive when discussed with a counsellor.

I hope you are going to these sessions alone, yes?

maxybrown · 17/01/2012 16:33

General, you will not feel these anxiety issues so much if you were on your own - I bet you. So please stop telling yourself that. It is a miserable existance - it is all of these things -

sad
lonely
degrading
soul destroying
miserable
negative
a waste of your life

I know, I have been there - fortunately I had no DCs at the time, but I stll put up with it for 10 long years Sad and yes you are right, you are enabling him - but only by staying when really you sound like you don't want to. But you know, all these obstacles, finances, house etc - they are non permenant ones and can all be sorted - in the grand scheme of things yours and your childrens happiness is what counts and you cannot possibly be happy like this - nor should your children ever ever hear their Dad speak to their Mum in this way.

I agree with AF I reckon it would be him that would not cope too well, and in the end - you would be fine. I'm happy to share my story - bevause bizzarely, me and exp are still friends now, I can see him him for the oddball he is and laugh - though on occasions it can still get to me but I can get over it very quickly and it obviously doesn't effect me in the smae way. i am now married and have a 4 year old DS - my DH has even had long emotional chats with exp about his general behaviour!!!

Now, keep posting (if it helps lol) stay strong and do what your frst Husband told you - BE HAPPY. You have not let him down at all, but you are not happy as things are. It is such a hard hard step to take - when i fnally admitted to people about what was going on - I still stayed for about another 2 years or so!

AnyFucker · 17/01/2012 16:44

hi general, glad to see you back... this is individual counselling you have arranged, yes ?

Generalunease · 17/01/2012 20:00

This is individual counselling, just six sessions for now.

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struwelpeter · 17/01/2012 20:27

I've been in your position: tying myself in knots trying to work out how to please someone who couldn't be pleased. Even when he was abusive, I spent my time trying to work out how not to displease him, how to keep the children well-behaved. There were some good times - typical abusive cycle - but basically I got more anxious, starting getting ill, was ever more fearful of coping totally on my own.
Recently, I've started to feel like myself again. I can manage, if things are hard I find ways round them. With someone so negative and uncommunicative you never have the chance to find out what you are doing right or wrong within the relationship. And sexual rejection grinds your self-esteem into the ground.
It is scary doing it on your but it is also liberating and my DCs are much happier now and we enjoy are lives. There is nothing lonelier and more soul destroying than being alone in a relationship.
Keep in mind what your first husband said and focus on you in your counselling.