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MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 18:32

basically im completely in love with a guy who ive been friends with for a while, but who ive had casual "relations" with every time i see him. We fell out a while back because he started freaking out because he thought i was starting to fall for him and i had no idea what the problem was so we didnt speak for a few days. then he got back into contact with me and we started texting again.

On christmas day he rang me and said that the reason he had acted like that was because he is so scared of getting hurt again (a 5 year relationship with someone he lived with ended a couple years ago) but that he likes me so much he just doesnt feel able to have a relationship at the minute.

Since then, he's been at my house everyother night, we do have sex but not every time we watch dvds and mess around and go to sleep every night cuddling.

Last week he came to mine because he was ill and wanted me to look after him and the next day he went to the doctors and phoned me afterwards and said he was going to see a therapist about all the stuff he cant get out of his head and that he was getting antidepressants to try and help him which i think is amazing that hes doing something about this problem.

On friday night, i had a lot of texts from him when he was drunk saying he misses me when we arent together and one saying he loves me. I havent mentioned this to him, but he spent all day yesterday and night with me and my son and he basically said that he wants us to be friends and not sleep together anymore with the place his head is in. i asked him if it would be different if he was ready for a relationship would it be with me and he said he couldnt answer it but that the problem isnt me.

I feel so confused about everything i just dont know how to deal with the situation :-(

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whatstodo · 08/01/2012 18:47

It sounds to me like he's trying to be honest with you. He likes you but isn't ready for a relationship with you and DS. I would remain his friend and support him through the issues he's dealing with. If a relationship is going to happen, it won't while he is therapy and on AD. Then if there's anything there when he's sorted himself out, you can make a go of things then. Good luck.

KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 18:50

He's. Just. Not. That. Into. You.

Ditch and get someone who actually wants to be your boyfriend.

He doesn't.

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 18:54

yeah thank you, i will support him no matter what and i really respect that he can confide in me because he doesnt like talking about things. i think i struggle more because we act like a couple when we're not if that makes sense

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MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 18:57

its not that simple katiescarlett because we are first and foremost friends

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KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 18:57

Why do you need to support him?

You are kidding yourself if you think you can go back to just being his friend.

Hurt, hurt and even more hurt when her "recovers" and fucks off with another woman, leaving you to pick up the pieces,

SiamoNellaMerda · 08/01/2012 18:59

Is it possible you're more his friend than he is yours? Sounds to me like you're a nice comfortable place for him to go and unload but he doesn't want any more than that. Anyone can confide in anyone else - that's not all that difficult. I get the feeling you are being used and will end up way more hurt than him.

rubyrubyruby · 08/01/2012 19:01

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MilitaryWag · 08/01/2012 19:01

Oh god this sounds so familiar to me. He is playing you like a piano and he knows it. Because you are in love with him your judgment is up in the clouds. Sure he has 'issues' by the sound of it but that is not a good enough reason to be acting like a 15 year old. Leave well alone and IF he sorts himself out then take stock and see what's what. You are there at his beck and call and are confusing this with friendship/that he is into you. If this bloke wants to be with you he will move hell and high water to do it. Everyone has been through the ringer r'ship wise but that is not an excuse to be behaving like this. You could well end up with a parasitic type r'ship where he will take and take and take while he decides what he wants. Is that what you want?

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:02

that makes a lot of sense. it is in the back of my mind that im being used I just need to find the strength to cool stuff down. he isnt using me for sex tho because hes the one who stopped all that

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KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 19:03

This time.

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:04

im so pleased i put this on here, you lot make much more sense than me!!!

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MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:07

he has just text me and i actually feel strong enough to not reply

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KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 19:11

That is very good.

Keep it up.

If he were your friend he woud not be sending you mixed messages, having sex with you, drunk-texting you saying how much he lurves you then retracting the following day, using the end of a relationship 2 YEARS ago to justify his shameful behaviour, etc, etc.

He is using you sweetie.

HoudiniHissy · 08/01/2012 19:14

I'm sorry, but a 5yr relationship went down the swanny a couple of YEARS ago? and he's still in bits?

All the while he is mucking about with you, sleeping with you, cozying up to you, expecting you somehow to be there to look after him when he's ill, but has made it crystal clear in the past, and now is actively freaking out at the very notion of being in a relationship with you?

You are potentially on a very big hiding to nothing here.

He doesn't want you ENOUGH to have a proper relationship with you. Oh he'll get his needs met alright, but no commitment.

Regardless of what he says about you and he remaining friends, no sex, I promise you that in a week or so, he'll be sniffing around for it, and you being needy and vulnerable you'll let him.

BASICALLY, as hard as it is, you need to understand that calculatingly or not, this guy is USING you. You in turn are ENABLING him.

My suggestion is that you cut ALL contact, as your presence in his life will only form to confuse him, and his presence in yours will only serve to tempt you.

IF he gets his head straight and decides to come back to you, you will be in a much stronger position to decide whether you have to settle for this, or if, as I suspect, you might be better than this.

This is a goddawful mess you are in there, and allowing him to stay around you will drag you down with it.

You are apparently the ultimate Friend With Benefits. Stop this now, for the sake of your sanity and for the sake of your son.

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:16

hmm he has had 2 relationships then which he told me ended because of his fear to get close to anyone again! which is more than likely bollocks aswell?!!

why cant i be one who just finds someone and lives happily ever after like some people seem to do so easily

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KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 19:20

You need to adjust your bullshit radar missus

HoudiniHissy · 08/01/2012 19:20

Love, no-one finds it easy to find a partner... we ALL want the happily ever after...

He doesn't want to get hurt again, I get it! I have to say that I'm scared shitless of involving myself again due to my previous relationship, but I think he's abusing that sad story to get his leg over but leave by the back door if she gets too attached.

Sadly when we have a child in tow, there are some that deem us as desperate and happy to accept anything. How wrong they are, but it still hurts when we find out that we are into them more than they are into us.

Don't get despondent, stay resolute and focussed on wanting and demanding better for you.

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:22

im not sure if im just as bad though. its usually me who asks him to come to mine and me who initiates sex. i didnt mention that we actually live 40 miles from eachother so its a long way to come for a booty call. we do get on very very well, its not all doom and gloom

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HoudiniHissy · 08/01/2012 19:25

Oh I'm sure you do get on, and I'm sure the pairing is functional, but you are not getting anything concrete out of this, he's effectively wasting your time.

You deserve better, and you will never get it unless you demand it.

Cut contact and say to him that you want to end it so that he can focus on his recovery. Call his bluff. IF he is genuine, he'll sort himself out.

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:27

thats really good advice HoudiniHissy. i hope i can find the strength to do that

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KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 19:31

You are really clutching at straws if you think travelling 40 miles for a free

shag/looking after/ego boost is something remarkable.

It isn't.

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:34

lol no im not clutching at straws im just trying to get things straight in my head

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KatieScarlett2833 · 08/01/2012 19:36

I travel further than that to do to the dentist.

I hate the dentist, btw. Wink

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 08/01/2012 19:52

He's just not that into you. Men who say they are scared of getting hurt are just avoiding committing. If you ate into someone then you aren't afraid. Friendship with someone you are having sex with is nigh on impossible, and absolutely impossible if you have romantic feelings for them. Deny this fact all you like but this will end in heartache for you :(

MrsSalvatore · 08/01/2012 19:53

haha good way to look at it i suppose. ive decided that i need to have space from him while he sorts his shit out and if he does and wants to make a go of things properly once he has, then he knows where i am

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