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OMFG!

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DooinMeCleanin · 13/11/2011 02:25

I actually have what I what I want! It is has taken tears and tantrums and god knows what but I have access to the savings. I cannot breathe. I need to leave. I am drunk. What do I do???

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Anniegetyourgun · 14/11/2011 13:56

Believe actions, not words. He has almost certainly "seen the light" because he realises you have reached end-of-tether time. The only way to tell if the conversion is genuine is to see what actually happens. As an outsider I'm a bit suspicious about how much of it has still ended up being you needing to be different. Watch carefully and don't give up any lifelines.

XH did his Damascene moment one time - lasted a whole 2 days. I was half horrified, half relieved when he went back on it all. Horrified because I saw a human being twisting his own perceptions in front of me and deliberately withdrawing from reality, like some horror film when the apparently nice hero type suddenly turns out to be the serial killer. Relieved because now I wouldn't have to try any more to make it work with him.

AbbyAbsinthe · 14/11/2011 14:27

Sorry, I think this is just another in a long line of reasons to back down. He can't change who he is intrinsically as a person.

I know it's scary. I know you have to be ready. But clearly you're not - and this whole turning your life around thing is just procrastinating, imo.

That said, I wish you well, I really do.

mathanxiety · 14/11/2011 16:01

Dooin, sweetheart, please, please do not swallow this baloney whole.

"He knew I was unhappy and things were bad but he didn't know how unhappy or bad or for how long it been had going on. He accepts that the way he has treat me lately is not right. But to be fair to him I give as much as I get.
He thinks that because you shout back you are not affected?"

He thought because you shout back it was not affecting you?
If you were silent then he would tell you that because you were silent if was all water off a duck's back.
If you cried then he would accuse you of being a manipulative cow.

The important thing he said was that he forgets everything after a while. He has not accepted that what he says and does are the things that are wrong and must change. You are living with someone who expects you to judge him on his intentions and not his words and actions and who expects you to be just like him as far as how you feel is concerned. He has not accepted any responsibility here.

He has instead tried very successfully to dump the blame on you for the way things have gone on. There is nothing in what you posted to indicate that he is taking any responsibility for himself. He won't even lose weight without you there; horning in on your exercising is another way of making sure other men are not looking at you of course. And if he fails to lose weight then he will blame you for not being supportive enough. You will not win here. He is determined to have things all his way.

Please read Chipping's post again:
'A man who throws his dinner across the sitting room because a child asks for a bit of his fish is not going to suddenly turn into partner or father of the year because you have talked (yet again). You have told him before, it's just this time he's pretending to listen. You have already tried for the children, for a bloody long time. What is making you too scared to leave?'
She is dead right. Really, what sort of a moron needs to have simple things like that spelled out? What sort of an idiot does he think you are to try to say he didn't realise how you felt or how the children must feel?

I don't want to depress you, but a man like you have there needs to commit to intense therapy to deal with his sense of entitlement.

ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 14/11/2011 16:03

Agree totally with ^

And would like to add:

but a man like you have there needs to commit to intense therapy for several years, and while living apart from you to deal with his sense of entitlement.

mathanxiety · 14/11/2011 16:05

Yes, I should have said that.

AbbyAbsinthe · 14/11/2011 16:13

I don't know the backstory really. But from what I've read on this thread alone, it just seems to me that he's fobbing you off because he's suddenly realised that you're serious.

Everything you have said with regards to his explanation, is purely him making YOU responsible for HIS emotional/physical wellbeing.

I think you should step away and try to think more clearly. Look how happy you were the other night at the prospect of freedom from this man.

babyhammock · 14/11/2011 18:02

I get you want to believe this bollox he's come out with (I wasted 2 years doing the same), but in the meantime please transfer as much as you can to an account in your name only.

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