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DooinMeCleanin · 13/11/2011 02:25

I actually have what I what I want! It is has taken tears and tantrums and god knows what but I have access to the savings. I cannot breathe. I need to leave. I am drunk. What do I do???

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rumpleteaser · 13/11/2011 22:00

dooingmecleaning I have only read one thread of yours before relating to your relationship situation. Watching your thread and have my fingers crossed for you.

rumpleteaser · 13/11/2011 22:14

dunno what's going on with regards to the card but get the money out as soon as possible while you can.

BertieBotts · 13/11/2011 22:48
ChippingInNeedsSleep · 14/11/2011 10:17

Dooin - how are you doing today?

DooinMeCleanin · 14/11/2011 10:24

Okay I'm back. I was away from the PC all day yesterday. I haven't read many of the comments yet, I have a very sick dd2 upstairs I need to sort out.

I still have the savings cards. There is money in there. Not as much as I thought we had, but more than I need. I know in PIN. I'm keeping hold of the card for now and it's no longer in our house, so it's definately safe.

We spent all day talking yesterday (between cleaning up dd2's vomit Hmm). He knew I was unhappy and things were bad but he didn't know how unhappy or bad or for how long it been had going on. He accepts that the way he has treat me lately is not right. But to be fair to him I give as much as I get.

He wants me to stay and try and work on things at least until after x-mas. I can keep hold of the card and have control of the savings and if things are still bad after x-mas he will help me move, but he wants me to have more cash behind me and move somewhere nicer than where I had planned. He doesn't the children being brought up next door to drug dealers and addicts, but accpets that anything would be better than listening to us scream at each other.

The argument started because he said he wants me to give up my training and exercise classes. He admitted he is jealous that I have the time to do things like this and the cash to when he doesn't, even though he works longer hours than me. He also admitted he is afraid if I loose enough weight I might find someone better.

We are struggling with bills a lot more than I thought and this has been worrying him. He has admitted he takes a lot out on me and he needs to stop doing this. He had thought that because I shout back I wasn't that upset by it and I just forget about it later on, like he does.

He also feels trapped by my dogs and hates being left alone in the house with them when I am at work because one of them snaps at him all the time and the other two just don't listen to him. He spends most of the night trying to manage them. He whinges about them a lot which causes arguments and he ends up sending me nasty texts half the night while I am working. He has agreed that immediately jumping down my throat about them when I get in from work isn't going to help matters.

After talking we've come up with a few things we both want to work on. I'm going to show him how to properly manage the dogs and he is going to listen to me this time. He's going to start help exercise the two calmer dogs but doesn't think he could manage my terrier and the children at the same time and I need to be more patient with him about the dogs and stop loosing my temper when he struggles with them and show him what to do instead of scowling at him or swearing at him. I grew up with dogs. I know how to manage their behavioural issues, he doesn't. He doesn't feel safe with my terrier, but accepts that he hasn't really worked with him either. He knows the dog is going no-where so he has to start working on their issues.

He is going to start cleaning up his shit while I am at work and making sure the children have clean uniform ready for the next morning.

He's not going to text me constantly while I am at work.

If he starts feeling like he is loosing his temper he's going to go for a walk instead of shouting and swearing.

We're going to start eating meals together at the table on an evening. He's always ate in the living room because the way the children behave at the table gets him down, but he realises it's not fair to leave me to deal with them all the time on my own. He hadn't realised I was bothered that much by us not eating together as a family.

We're going to start going out as a family together every Sunday. Dd1 has decided we should go to the local outdoors center the first week.

There are things I do that upset him too. I'm going to cut down smoking and use some of the money I save to help pay off some of the smaller bills and ease things for him a bit and he wants me to stop sitting in a different room to him all the time, although he accepts that it's his ranting and selfishness that causes this.

He's going to see the doctor about his snoring, so I can finally get some sleep.

He wants me to help him with his own weight issues and he wants to start doing some training himself. He thinks he'd manage better if we did it together.

I have no idea if anything will work or if he even means it. This is first time he has been honest and accpeted any of the blame for himself. It could just be another game. It probably is another game, but I'll give it a shot for a week or two, whilst keeping control of the savings. With the kind of account it is you cannot access it without the card, so he can't transfer any of the money or draw it out. He'd have to order a new card, which would be delieverd here anyway and he's never home for the post. I am.

I'm off to clean up more vomit now and see to dd2, so I might not get chance to get back on the 'puter, but just wanted to let you all know I'm okay.

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ChippingInNeedsSleep · 14/11/2011 10:33

I don't even know what to say.

I'm really sad that you have allowed him to talk you around.

JennyPiccolo · 14/11/2011 10:45

he could also just phone and cancel the card if he had a mind to.

PattySimcox · 14/11/2011 10:51

yy Chipping and Jenny

Open a separate account in your name only and transfer the money across

ExitPursuedByaBear · 14/11/2011 10:53

Good luck Dooin. I don't know all your history so coming to this quite fresh, but it seems good that you have sat down together and really talked.

I hope it all works out for you.

DooinMeCleanin · 14/11/2011 10:54

Yes he could, but they'd immediately send a new card out to our address and I'd recieve it, so that would be pointless. It would only buy him a couple of days before I got the new card.

Dd2 is up now and wants to go school Hmm. The calpol has brought down her temp so she thinks she's better now, bless her.

I'm keeping the card and will draw out some of the money to keep in somewhere. I won't post where on here in case he reads it, but I'll make sure I have enough for a months rent in advance and the money will be safe.

I owe it to the children to at least give it a go. We have never tried working on any of our issues before, or even talking to each other. We usually just end up screaming at each other. Things need to change or I will leave. I won't be waiting until after x-mas if things don't start improving.

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OneHandFlapping · 14/11/2011 10:54

I don't know all your back story, DooinMeCleaning, but it sounds like he has started to listen to you.

Just be careful, if you are thinking you might stay now, that he doesn't backslide on his promises. They are easy to make, and much harder to stick to.

Have you thought of Relate? They are expensive, and there may be a waiting list, but they might help mediate both your changes in behaviour.

winnybella · 14/11/2011 10:57

But he is not a nice person. He will not stop being a selfish twat all over the sudden. Do you love him?

I think you're too scared to leave him and looking for excuses.

Good luck.

winnybella · 14/11/2011 10:58

all of the sudden

ditzymitzy2 · 14/11/2011 10:58

ok, you are strugging with money yet going to classes and have three dogs! Maybe you could work together to prioritise what can go and what can stay. Money worries can be horribly stressful, especially if you are trying to protect the other partner from the full extent of it.

Seems like you both have a lot of work to do.

LizaTarbucksAuntie · 14/11/2011 11:00

Wow that was a roller coaster Dooin,

Are you sure this is what you want? If so, good luck. I think it sounds like you'll need it

ChippingInNeedsSleep · 14/11/2011 11:01

A man who throws his dinner across the sitting room because a child asks for a bit of his fish is not going to suddenly turn into partner or father of the year because you have talked (yet again). You have told him before, it's just this time he's pretending to listen. You have already tried for the children, for a bloody long time. What is making you too scared to leave?

DooinMeCleanin · 14/11/2011 11:06

I don't know Winny. I didn't think I did but I saw a glimpse of the man he used to be yesterday. The man I did love. I think we've spent too mcuh time blaming each other for things going wrong, we've stopped talking.

Ditzy one of the dogs is not ours. Her food and vetinary care is paid for for us.

The classes are cheap and are mainly run from the local families first center. It's hardly membership at an exclusive gym. I work too and I am, imo, entitled to spend some of that money on myself. He has his football and his season ticket thingy and I have my exercise classes and my dogs.

I didn't realise he was struggling as much as he is with money. I switch off when he talks to me about money because he rants and accuses instead of talking. We are not as bad off as he thinks we are. He has never been in debt before and it scares him. If I take on some of the smaller bills, he'll have a lot more left over each month.

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CuriousCrissyRock4QueenMama · 14/11/2011 11:06

Oh well we'll see. Just hope you dcs are ok?

CuriousCrissyRock4QueenMama · 14/11/2011 11:07

which season ticket? They can cost a mint.

DooinMeCleanin · 14/11/2011 11:09

I don't know Chipping. Atm I am very tired. Dd2 has been vomiting all over everyone since Sunday afternoon and I've had no sleep. We'll see how things go over the next day or two.

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HugosGoatee · 14/11/2011 11:14

Good luck Dooin - hope you both manage to be nice to each other and sort things out, but if not, you have an exit plan now Smile

QuintessentialShadow · 14/11/2011 11:20

Ok.

Good luck.

Maybe this will sound bonkers. But, if you have agreed to start afresh, and stop blaming eachother, and work together to get a better marriage and a better life, then I have a suggestion.

Buy bicycles. Make an effort EVERY weekend to cycle somewhere with the kids. Bring packed lunches, stop somewhere nice for a picnic. Eat, let the kids roam, and just see this as your quality family time to reconnect. It is the BEST way to get fit, lose weight, and have quality time together that does not COST anything but the initial outlay for bikes and helmets.

If he wants to lose weight, and stop snoring, he should take his bike out every day.

My husband turned his health around by buying a bike. He was seriously overweight, and snored like a bafoon. I did not get much sleep, it was so annoying. He was depressed, fat, irritable, and we were arguing a lot.
Until one day he decided enough was enough, and he came home with a bicycle to my huge surprise.
This was a man who snacked on snickers bars during work. Who would eat chicken nuggets and chips, with baked beans from the take out nearly every evening, and wash it down with haagen dazs strawberry cheesecake icecream and bananas. Half a large tub in one sitting.
6 months after buying the bike, and cycling every day, he had lost so much weight, and he had stopped snoring. He also turned his diet around.
And you know what, his temper and his mood improved so much, and his depression lifted.

Fish oil, like in omega 3 tablets, or even better, fatty fish in your diet, is a miracle cure against depression. It also aids weight loss.

You should start a "Turning our lives around thread" for support and encouragement. And if it doesnt work for you guys, you will have all your support here anyway.

DooinMeCleanin · 14/11/2011 11:26

We have bikes Quint. I just need a new saddle for mine because the dogs ate mine Hmm

We did talk about cycling, we're going to look into getting one of those thngs that connect dd2's bike to one of ours because she wouldn't be able to keep up with us. In the meantime he's going to start using the cross trainer he bought himself.

I do think he is depressed. Hopefully exercise and a better diet will help. I'll look into the fish oils.

It's hard to talk because we never see each other. Sundays are spent arguing and trying to catch up on housework and the rest of the time one of us is at work.

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crystalglasses · 14/11/2011 11:26

If he has been struggling with bills why hasn't he used some of the savings to pay them off? I don't understand.

DooinMeCleanin · 14/11/2011 12:48

He does. We save for a while then he will use some of it to pay off a large chunck of debt, then we save again.

He has to have savings to feel secure. I don't know why. It's one of his things. He likes to know he has a lump sum somewhere.

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