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husbands being mentally abusive

83 replies

cattjojo · 06/11/2011 19:39

I had to call 999 and go to the police station for a domestic today and although myself and the policeman decided that pressing charges against my husband would not be in anyones best interest, he decided more support as a family would be beneficial instead. There has been a series of mentally abusive episodes and the odd occasion of physical violence, but (please don't think i'm excusing his behaviour) there has been a great deal of on going stress in the family and a current situation which has led to the events. One particular thing was that I tried to take my life in June, and although the crisis team were notified, we were pretty much left to get on with it, despite requests that i was not coping and needed support.( I was however issued with a personal midwife from the mental health team as i found out i was pregnant shortly after.) The policeman has put us down as a high risk family, no risk to children, but possible risk of future violence if help is not given, so that this will hopefully speed up the process for gaining help. Obviously SS will be in touch as matter of procedure. I just don't know what will happen next. There is part of me that is scared they will find fault with me, or take the children away. I am just so hoping they will be there for me and support us as a family, it's all i've ever asked for. i can't afford marriage counselling, i have had to cancel the 5 counselling sessions my doctor organised as i don't have childcare and can't afford any, and i have limited my help by refusing to take any sort of psychotic medication. I don't even feel depressed or particually down, it's just the constant dig, dig, dig and goad, goad , goad from my husband that gets to me sometimes and i just want to get away from it all. I feel like there is only so much i can take sometimes.

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garlicBread · 08/11/2011 13:06

Would you consider ringing Womens Aid, just to get a fresh perspective on things? It's horrible when worries keep going round in your head. Stress makes it hard to see any kind of bigger picture. I was thinking it might be more comfortable for you to speak to a woman, who doesn't know your or DH personally, but has knowledge and experience with all sorts of life problems.

realhousewife · 08/11/2011 13:18

Womens Aid 0808 2000 247 - keep trying and do leave a message if you get the option, they will get back to you.

TheOriginalFAB · 08/11/2011 13:31

You need to keep going back to your G{ until they listen to you and get you the help you need. How old are your children?

cestlavielife · 08/11/2011 15:35

keep talking to your midwife - she can refer you again for help - can someone from the church babysit so you can go to counselling?

" i have lashed out and punched his arm or something and he has pushed me. He has never just done it for no reason"

there is always a reason in the head of someone who pushes shoves etc- the argument you provoked me i was stressed. it doesnt justify it.

thing is new baby is going to add to your stress not lessen it - for both of you - sleepless nights etc. what practical help will you get with newborn and other dc - friends, family etc? that is where SS might be able to help, for example to provide some childminder or other care for your other DC a few hours per day so you can focus on newborn and napping when newborn does .

mathanxiety · 08/11/2011 16:09

I just wanted re assurance on the social services aspect. Even though i know deep down it will be fine. I thought i would receive wise comments rather than digs from people who are probably not in a great position themselves to be pointing the finger. I am very aware that my past will have effect on my coping skills and how I deal with certain situations on some levels.'

Do you hold your past against yourself?

Nobody is pointing a finger at you because of what was done to you in the past. To say that the unresolved issues from your past affect how you deal with things that come up in the here and now is not a criticism.

(I am talking about the abuse from your childhood here, not the suicide attempt)

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WRT arguing:
Being able to argue in a healthy way is essential. Everyone longs for a harmonious relationship. Everyone would love to be able to get through life without having to stand up for yourself or confront someone or be criticised in any way, but the fact is, that is an unreal expectation in an intimate partnership. To hope to never argue with someone you live with is unrealistic. The best you can hope for is to be able to argue productively and respectfully.

Couples can and do argue without it being a case of mutual assured destruction whenever there is a difference or a confrontation. It requires mutual respect and a focus on preserving the relationship through the debate, and a desire to end up with a solution where everyone feels they have 'won', been heard, been respected.

I think you need to go back and do a lot more talking about the boundary issues and also talk some more about the abuse itself. Fear and bad memories are not necessarily the only effects of abuse that can have repercussions in your life.

Do you think you felt in any sort of hurry to forgive? Some therapists approach abuse with the aim of seeing a forgiveness scenario and tend to brush other instincts and emotions under the rug a bit. Some see forgiveness as a major step in overcoming abuse. This may be true for some victims but is certainly not true for all. When you find yourself moving towards forgiveness it is important to ask if you are doing it out of desire to please a therapist (maybe subconscious) or out of a desire to have a matter done and dusted (and if so what is being avoided by closing the matter), or from a sense of guilt at feeling anger (even a religious feeling) -- any sort of pressure from any source really. It is important to examine the motivation. Forgiveness may have been a safe detour for you along the path to healing, that turned out to be a bit of a blind alley.

You have to get to the point in your relationship and in the way you see the world where you can be assertive (as opposed to constantly defensive) and argue without fear. You have to get to the point where confrontation without the fear of annihilation seems like a real possibility for you. This is where a re-examination of the past would be necessary.

Boundary issue:
You are not being attacked here.

'to go over it again. He doesn't hit me or anything, i have lashed out and punched his arm or something and he has pushed me. He has never just done it for no reason, or just because he was in a mood or something. I'm not in fear that he would hurt me. It just something that has happened when we have been argueing.'

Boundary issue:
When you argue you seem to go into fight or flight mode. That is an effect from previous abuse. You punch or you leave and cross a field.

Boundary issue:
You think there is a reason why he (or you) could punch or push, that an argument can't be reasonable or respectful, that there can't always be a line that neither one of you can ever cross.

If you tell a social worker that 'He has never just done it for no reason, or just because he was in a mood or something. I'm not in fear that he would hurt me. It just something that has happened when we have been argueing' they are going to write DENIAL on your notes.

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You really must contact Women's Aid and talk with them. They can listen to you, woman to woman, hear what you need, maybe refer you on to another service.

mathanxiety · 08/11/2011 16:18

I think what you are going through right now is panic that everything is slipping out of your control.

Maybe up to the moment when you called the police you felt that your life, while not ideal, was something you controlled. You behaved in a certain way, you kept things to yourself, you managed the situation at home even though it was stressful. Then in that moment of panic you 'broke down' on some level and called the police, asked for help. Now you realise there may be consequences for that opening up of your life, including the involvement of SS. This means loss of that control that you thought you had and hence the panic.

garlicBread · 08/11/2011 16:26

What thoughtful posts, Math.

Cattjojo, I hope you can find it in you to see that no-one here is trying to get at you, weaken you or undermine you in any way. There's only one reason why so many posters have taken time and trouble over your replies. That's because they all feel you deserve a happier, safer life and are encouraging you to ask for support.

AttillaTheMum · 08/11/2011 17:18

cattjojo Can you see if you can find a female in your life that you can confide in?

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