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Can't take much more and scared.

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Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 11:10

I'm going to try and get this out in one go, I'll keep it as short and to the point as possible without leaving anything major out so if you can bear with me I'd be really grateful.

Been with my husband for 15 years, married almost three. I'm not so much asking for advice - just a bottom line opinion of the situation as you, neutral people see it.

He's extremely insecure, at the moment more so than ever after I slept with another man last year. Yeah, sounding really fab so far aren't I? It was a mistake, one I regretted immediately. Couldn't handle the guilt so fessed up. It was an horrific time and I can honestly say it hurt more to be the cheater and to see the damage I caused than it did to be the cheated on (a few years ago he had a fling) I'm on strong anti depressants because of acute anxiety, mainly brought on by what I did.

He always has been insecure, though he'd deny it. Noticeably offish with male friends of mine, sometimes to the point said friends have walked away for good because they must have felt really uncomfortable with the atmosphere it created. About two years ago we had a rough patch, I don't think he'd describe it as one but he took the pressures of his job out on me, criticised me constantly to the point I dreaded him coming home from work because if I did a thousand things in a day he'd notice the one thing I hadn't and criticise. I just never felt good enough. He's a sulker, and his record for basically ignoring me was six weeks. Can't recall what I did, probably just a general argument. Sulking and witholding affection. It drove me to distraction and was a horrible thing to live with, made me thoroughly miserable. He can go to town on me, listing my faults and failings for hour upon hour.

At this point an old friend started paying me attention, I got my head turned, I was hearing all the good things about myself rather than the bad. Long story short it culminated in me having sex with him...and here we are. There is an approved list of friends I can go out with, an approved list of places. I've had to delete male friends from my FB on his say so (because he feels they are too close to the man I slept with even though this isn't neccesarily the case) he denies it is on his say so, but I get "I'm only asking and if you cared about my feelings, you'd do it for me" - the result if I didn't do it would be more being sent to Coventry and rows etc...so for an easy life I have done so. In fact the only male friends he doesn't mind me having are gay. He denies it is because they are gay, he just "likes" them and finds a hundred reasons why he doesn't like the straight ones.

The other day I went for a couple of drinks with a friend who isn't on the approved list (I'm not saying there is a physical list but there is definitely a group of people he doesn't like me interacting with...if you loved me/cared about me you wouldn't) and the meeting point was down a certain road where at times the OM drinks, it was highly unlikely I'd see him as it was a Tuesday night and this particular pub isn't one of his regulars. Before I went I got grief about it and the whole if you loved me/cared about my feelings spiel...I went regardless, I'm a grown woman with the right to make decisions for myself and how can I ever prove I can be trusted not to make the same mistake if I'm put on such a short lead? When I got back he verbally laid into me again. Listing men I have spoken to on FB and grilling me abut my intentions towards them.

He actually apologised to me but he never, ever apologises without some sort of "but if you hadn't done XYZ" - caveat - I'd not have said/done what I did. He never takes personal responsibility for his actions, it's always because someone else (usually me) did such and such that made him do it.

I feel like I'm having the life sucked out of me, that I have very little freedom as an adult to make choices and decisions for myself. I fear if I left him he'd do something stupid. There were suicide threats after what happened last year, his family and my own just turned on me completely, nobody was interested in why it might have happened. The fact he'd done it to me completely dismissed as irrelevent when I pointed out he'd done it to me more than once and I forgave. My family think he's the dogs bollocks because he's a good dad and works hard and as my mum tells me when I have tried to talk to her about this "he's not a drinker and he doesn't hit you so be grateful".

I'm at breaking point with it, I refuse invitations to go out despite being a SAHM who sometimes just needs a break from the house because it's not worth the grief I have to endure if I go and I'm beginning to really resent him. I've suggested counselling but I'm getting to the point I don't even care about that. I just want out. This hasn't ALL come abut because of what did, he's pretty much always been like this about male friends. In fact we ended up getting married because he found out I'd been chatting (just that) to an old ex on FB. He went nuts, smashing cups and glass panels in the door and then he began the talk of marriage. I got swept up in it.

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Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 17:46

He didn't have a social life, he made me it, everything. Although he did go to Thailand for two weeks within weeks of telling me what he'd done. He also continue to work on the taxis - and that was how he met her, she was a fare that made herself available.

He honestly thinks a handful of nights out in the last year is comparable to a fortnight on the other side of the world.

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Newbabynewmum · 23/06/2011 17:46

Womens aid. You do not deserve this, no way. And you do not bring it on yourself.

I know when you've been in a relationship like this for so long you become a bit "normalised" to it. If you read back all your posts I'm sure you'd be telling someone in your situation to leave.

Please please look into leaving. Yes money isn't fun as a lone parent but life is manageable. You'll be so much happier and in turn so will ur children. You don't want them growing up thinking this is normal.

Is there anyone in RL who will help you?

buzzsore · 23/06/2011 17:47

I think he needs to become acquainted with the words divorce and ex-wife.

Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 17:50

I'm just so scared of being plunged back into that hell that happened last year. Truly believing he was dead and my kids were enjoying their last few hours of ignorance of the fact before I had to tell them their dad was dead and it was because of me. Poliwere out looking for him and all kinds :(

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Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 17:50

Police were*

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buzzsore · 23/06/2011 17:55

But actually he'd done nothing to himself, had he? It was all to create a drama and this kind of self-flagellation in you.

overmydeadbody · 23/06/2011 17:57

It's not your responsibility to keep him alove though.

Staying in this rlationship is killing you, inside anyway, your kids deserve more than an empty shell of a scared timid mother and a controlling father.

If he were to kill himself that would be ~his fault, not yours. His decision, not yours.

Your life will be so much better with out him.

Newbabynewmum · 23/06/2011 17:57

That's exactly how he wants you to feel. No normal loving man would have his wife living in fear of his suicide if she leaves. I strongly think it's just a threat and a controlling tactic so you don't get cross with him or leave. He is treating you so appallingly. He has no right to make you feel this way.

overmydeadbody · 23/06/2011 17:58

exactly, agree with buzz. His 'suicide' threats are just another way to control you. Call his bluff. Leave.

Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 18:00

At the time I think he really meant it though. I was hysterical, begging for my mum to get my doctor to knock me out so I didn't have to face it :(

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Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 18:01

Sorry, I feel like I'm leaping on each post like some desperado, it's just so cathartic to get it all out.

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Newbabynewmum · 23/06/2011 18:01

You can see that it's not healthy though can you? That he threatens that to make you stay. Uses that to control you?

Newbabynewmum · 23/06/2011 18:02

Keep posting, everyone's here to help you. It's good to let it out x

Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 18:03

I see that yes, he's late home and I'm thinking it's to make me worry after a row about it all last night.

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Newbabynewmum · 23/06/2011 18:07

I don't know how to help. I'm really sorry. You really do need to leave this man. I think you know this. I know it's a huge deal leaving & will take a lot of strength. You can do this.

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 23/06/2011 18:11

Look, this knobbo will not kill himself. He loves himself far too much even to make a teenyweeny scratch on his ickle wristy, would be my estimate. Abusers who threaten to harm or kill themselves when they don't get their own way are never so fucking obliging as to actually die and get out of your hair.

And don't understimate your DC's awareness that he is not, actually, very nice. Full-blown abusers like him make children pretty uneasy, they become aware that Daddy has tantrums when he feels like it, that Daddy's kindness to them is dependent on them being 'good' in ways that they can't always percieve... And if they see him bullying you, that will upset them as well.

Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 18:12

It's helped enormously just to sound off and realise it's not just me being an unreasonable bitch to question and 'rebel' against his rules and regulations.

I think what he's asking (well, more demanding under the guise of reasonable requests) is totally unreasonable.

I don't want to limit my life to such a degree for a mistake. I can't spend my life beating myself up. FGS for years I was loyal to the point I wouldn't cotton onto other men chatting me up, it just went under my radar. Old friend's bad timing? doesn't help that I had a thing for him since I was about four! I used to think he was gorgeous.

I suppose I was just vunerable to it at the time and am becoming aware this was just a catalyst, if it had never happened, at some point down the line there would have been another catalyst. He encourages me to get a job or go to college so I think how can he really be that controlling? but realistically I know that if I had male colleagues or made male friends on a college course it would become a problem too.

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Onelasttry · 23/06/2011 18:17

Oh and yes, I have good friends but one in particular would move mountains for me if I needed it.

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overmydeadbody · 23/06/2011 18:20

There you go then, move in with your friend for a while, leave this man, have some space, and then see a solicitor to start divorce proceedings.

inatrance · 23/06/2011 19:54

Your ex sounds so much like mine it's almost like they've had the same twattery training! Grin

Nothing was ever his fault either, and like you I still defended him, even after we split up. Until I read the Lundy book and realised how my reality had been twisted and just how I had been manipulated.

My ex was Mr Happy family man too to the outside world. His excuses for being horrible were as flimsy as your H's and it was always that 'he wouldn't have had to do or say x if I hadn't done y.' He never ever admitted that his behaviour was unjustified and I exhausted myself trying to fix myself. I loved him and didn't want a divorce, just for him to stop being so horrible. So I tried and tried, until I ended up an anxious wreck.

He also threw vicious, cruel insults at me, one of the nastiest being 'lopsided freak, as one of my boobs is slightly bigger than the other. He crushed my self esteem until I had nothing left.

But here I am, 5 years later with a good man, happy and I have ME back again. It is possible to escape, get support and start your life again. Please know that if he did love you he would not do this to you.

You just need to begin to trust yourself again and reclaim your reality. It's hard when you've been brainwashed into believing that you deserve this treatment but it's possible.

HerHissyness · 23/06/2011 20:20

onelasttry: please, your sofa/photos post made me gasp out loud - and if you hang around here much, you'll know I'm a bit of a regular.

Please get ready to go, please prepare all documents, certificates etc, and get a bag together and go. Please call WA, please let them get you out.

I can't bear to think you are living like this, this is worse than slavery FGS. No person ever deserved this. you have suffered enough.

Nothing you ever did caused this, nothing you could ever do could fix this, please trust me, please trust everyone on this thread and please read the Lundy Book, however you can get hold of it.

Please put your DC and you first and get out, and stay out. WA will help you, Refuge will help you, your friend will help you, and we will help you.

malinkey · 23/06/2011 21:20

I think he's got you so twisted up in his warped logic that you actually believe you are responsible for him. You're not you know? In the unlikely event that he did choose to kill himself it would be NOTHING to do with you.

He chooses to be abusive to you and I bet he loves the fact that you actually did something wrong (in his eyes) so he can use that to blame you for everything. The fact that he was unfaithful to you seems to be irrelevant. Seriously, none of it's your fault.

And as for the sexual assault? Gah. What an arsehole. Please phone Women's Aid. Please leave him.

AnyFucker · 23/06/2011 22:08

I am speechless

This is one of the worst relationship threads I have ever read

HerHissyness · 23/06/2011 22:19

me too AF, me too, and that is saying quite an awful lot of late! Sad

DandyGilver · 23/06/2011 22:25

You have to go. Really. You can't live like this.