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help: semantic nightmare is ruining my day

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Aimlesswhinemouse · 10/06/2011 08:29

DP and I have real communication problems and sometimes it surrounds everyday words. I know this sounds trivial but, just to take an example that cause a major row last night...whenever I cook a quiche for a dinner party or picnic DP always refer to it as a ?flan?.

I've corrected his mistake lots of times (there are loads of other examples!!!!!!) - but he has consistently failed to take notice of my correction, continually referring to quiches as flans and using the two words as if they were interchangeable.

I am finding his insensitivity to linguistic nuance increasingly depressing and I feeling increasingly distant from him. I just don?t know how much longer I can go on listening to him keep referring to a quiche as a flan. I'm sure this must be a symptom of deeper problems, but I'm just going out of my mind and feel so confused right now.

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TeachMySelfBalance · 10/06/2011 18:11

The clue for your resolution of this dilemma is in your original post, Aimlesswhinemouse.

"I just don?t know how much longer I can go on listening to him..."

Obviously, then just don't listen - it is a page out of his play book, so fair game.

"Yes, dear, what ever you say."

My dh will interchange "roof" for "ceiling". I am an architect and I figured he was just teasing me to see if I'd correct him. We were painting the bedroom and he asked if I was going to paint the roof, too. I said no, but I will do the ceiling. Grin

I'm in Virginia:
Sweet tea: sweeetee
Jefferson: Jef'son
Stafford: Sta'fudd

nowayhosay · 10/06/2011 18:13

Feel for you. I can't sleep with DP if he calls the sofa the couch. Can you actually cite this in divorce papers. He's clearly a deeply evil person and you should leave at night without a forwarding address and find the nearest refuge.

sayithowitis · 10/06/2011 19:17

I believe that custard may refer to sweet or savoury dishes, i always thought it was the fact that cream/milk was thickened by adding eggs and heating that makes a custard.

Secondly, I am old enough to remember when and egg and bacon flan was called an egg and bacon flan. It is comparatively recently that we have begun to call it a quiche.
origin of flan- sounds suspiciously like a 'quiche' to me

Thirdly, (if this is true) what does it matter what name DH calls the flan/quiche, as long as he enjoys it and is suitably grateful to you for going to the effort of making it rather than buying a ready made one?

Bluebell123 · 10/06/2011 19:24

A friend of mine dumped a boyfriend after she heard him refer to chilli con carne as "chilli con carn". Ghastly oik

UnlikelyAmazonian · 10/06/2011 19:28

havent read thread. Flinched at title.
My dad says 'makismo' and 'Pitza'
Idiot of the highest order. and in fact he really is.

starrywillow · 10/06/2011 19:51

OP, I think you know how silly it sounds but I think you're right that it's not about the quiche or the flan it's about him annoying you very easily and this is very likely about something completely different. Maybe there are other things that annoy you, are they more deep seated? Why? Do you feel like you've drifted apart? Has something happened recently?

I actually went through something similar when my partner's leaving the kettle at the edge of the worktop annoyed me. Nothing to do with the kettle and I knew it was me overreacting, but I couldn't stop the anger and it was actually because I felt helpless about other issues all of which have now been sorted out, thankfully. :)

chris123456 · 10/06/2011 20:01

How else would you pronounce machismo?

tadpoles · 10/06/2011 22:12

But Aimlesswhinemouse seems to have disappeared - is she still baking? Do real men eat quiche? Do semantics matter when it comes to pastry-based home baking? So many questions unanswered, OP, you little tease!

WillIEverBeASizeTen · 10/06/2011 23:55

OP, in the grand scheme of things this is pure trivia. I work with people who have had a stroke, massive life changes....believe me, their partners would love them to call a quiche a flan, they are dealing with their partners not even able to communicate their wanting to go to the loo!

Put it into perspective...it really is a no brainer

quiddity · 11/06/2011 00:12

SummerRain...."pronounces 'they're' and 'there' the same"
How else would/could you pronounce them? Confused
chris, the ch in machismo is pronounced as in chimney.

midwife99 · 11/06/2011 02:10

Is that all you've got to moan about?! I hope you're joking!

chris123456 · 11/06/2011 06:06

oxforddictionaries.com/definition/machismo

looks like UA's dad is right and there is both than one pronounciation

SummerRain · 11/06/2011 15:49

they're is an contraction of They and Are and should be pronounced like those two words run together [they-r] whereas there is [ther]

Thomas1969 · 11/06/2011 16:18

A quiche (or kwichie) is a flan, so really he should be mad at you!

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