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My husband has evolved into a weirdo

88 replies

MrsTwat · 24/05/2011 11:27

Have name changed as there are a few peeps on here who know me in RL and I dont want my RL world to know about this as I am embarrassed if I am being totally honest. This is going to be a right old ramble I fear as I try and explain things.

Married 10 years. Together 15. 2 DC 13 and 10. DH has never been a particuarly social person. Never had any close friends long term mates really a few peeps that come and go but then we have moved around alot in our marriage due to his job. I however, make the most of where ever we live and always seem to have some kind of social group of friends. Things between us are OK. Not fab but not awful. I do sense we are not as close these days but then we do little together. He does not like the things I like to do and I am not that keen on his interests either. We do just tend to just rub along. I am not unhappy but slowly realising how little time we enjoy together.

We had a long distance relationship for about 18months before moving in together. I now realise thats some of his persona he put across to me before moving in together was not 100% accurate- although he never actively lied. What I am trying to say is that I never got the impression he was an unsociable person. When we used to see each other, me where he lived and when he came to my town - we used to spend alot of our time out with other people and having fun. Within 6 months of us setting up home together (where he was then working) I fell pregnant - not planned (DC now just turned 13).

We then spent the following few years with babies and toddlers and no support network as we lived 500 miles from family. We rarely went out together. Infact my DC were 3 and 1 before I went out again. He would go to the occassional work curry night or similar. For years and years it was like this as we moved house every few years. Slowly it dawned on me and through some discussions together he admitted he disliked socialising really and couldnt be arsed with it. He knows friends are important to me and we have slipped into this kind of seperate social lives. He plays PS3/walks up hills, I go for coffee/lunch/pub/shopping with a mate and still pop to my home town every 6 to 8 weeks for an overnight stay to see my parents and best friend.

He is a very optomistic person and he spends his free time mountain biking, mountain/hill walking and gaming on the PS3. All of which he does alone. Occassionally me or one or both of the kids will join him on his walking or biking, occassionally a friend/mate from work but for most part he goes alone. He is certainly not depressed. He loved his job and is so enthusiastic about these few things in life. He is also a fab full hands on Dad to our DC.

People do notice how unsociable he is and I worry that he comes accross as rude. We had a small street party (4 families) in our street for the Royal Wedding and he was the only 1 who didnt join in on the day. He stayed in playing PS3. The other families commented in a jokey way that they rarely see him, he rarely speaks to even say hello and joked it was embarrassing in the mornings when they were all getting into their cars at the same time (in a cimmunal car park by our houses) and he does not even make eye contact with them. One person said he looks embarrassed to say hello. I just told them he is shy - which I suppose he is/must be.

However, he does spend ALOT of time alone. I will go out and do stuff with my mates, our DC etc. For instance if the DC want to go into town shopping on a weekend I will take them -they go off with their mates shopping and I do my own shopping. Its a win win situation - we then meet for lunch or tea and go home to DH who is either sat infront of the PS3 or back from a 12 mile hike.

DH hoards stuff galore. Hard to believe with the amount of times we have moved in the past 12 years but he wont chuck anything and its now getting to be a bit ridiculous. Our bedroom is piled high around the edges of stuff he will not chuck - old computers, old TVs and clothes. He has a tripple wardrobe, 2 chests and clothes piled high in the bedroom. he wont chuck any of it. We have had chats and rows about this over the years but nothing changes. He hides stuff in the attic and then when we move it obviously gets found. You would not believe some of the stuff he has kept.

Last weekend me and DC cleared their rooms. They decided they wanted to chuck their old videos out. So I just binned them - black bag ready for bin day yesterday. I work in a charity shop and videos have stopped selling and we have recently stopped accepting them as wer cannot give them away. No one I know has a video anymore so I just thought I would bin them.

Well he has gone mental. These are Disney videos. most of which the DC have duplicated on DVD. I have just resigned myself they will remian in the carrier bags he has put them in placed behind the diningroom door. He will do nothing with them and I cant face a row so its another pile of shit just sitting in the corner of yet another room.

Something else happend on the weekend which has really made me stand back and look at him and I suddenly see a bit of a loner weirdo freak and not my husband.

I swear to god I am not making this up.

I got up Sunday morning to our usually chaotic messy kitchen. Loads of glasses/dishes etc waiting to go in the dishwasher, which was waiting to be emptied. I noticed something yellow in a glass and just knew straight away it was urine. I sniffed it and it was. My 10yo was with me and also guessed what it was. I took the glass through to my husband who was in the lounge on the PS3 and asked him why he had done it. He looked a little embarrassed but didnt deny it. I asked if it was because he could not be arsed to shift his arse upstairs to the loo. He said nothing and played his game and asked me to throw it away. I refused. I left it on the kitchen windowsill for him to dispose ofand cleared the rest of the kitchen. Went out to the Gym and shops etc.

Later that day he came over all amorous to me. I told him to piss off. His pissing in the glass had upset me, pissed me off and I thought it was vile and disgusting. He then mumbled something about thinking he had something in his urine and needed to look at it. I dont believe this. It took him 7 hours to come up with this. Further discussion last night about his Drs visit to get checked out, confirm my doubts. He is way too vague about the details and he reckons he has to wait until next week for an appointment when I phoned yesterday and got offerd 4 different appointments for myself for yesterday or today. Infact our med centre is linked to his work and personnel generally get priority for appointments. That said in the 14 months we have lived here I have always managed to get a same day or next day appointment.

Further still, assuming he is being honest and he wanted to look at his urine there are other containers he could have used - several sample bottles in the first aid cupboard as our DC has kidney issues. Secondly - why just leave it out.

More disgusting though that was when he realised he had to dispose of the glass of piss himself, he just chucked it down the sink. No bleach, just a little run of the tap.

Every glass in the house has been dishwasherd - but I now find myself no wanting used the glasses. I am not usually such a wuss with things but this has just turned my stomach. There have been a few incidents before when I have smelt urine in the kitchen or even the bathroom sink (have a sepearate loo) but just never thought much about it. Am now wondering if its my husband.

I dunno - the wee incident has kind of flipped a switch in my head which has me thinking - he has gone too far with his wierdness now. I have just been totally turned off.Sad

Dunno what I want anyone to say or suggest - perhaps an outsider view on how they would feel if their husband did the same.

OP posts:
KatieScarlett2833 · 24/05/2011 18:31

MY DH is not a brute, thanks. He is a lovely, kind man who works hard, cooks to order, does voluntary work with kids and generally adores us and is adored in return.

He did however once drunkenly pee into a loo roll as stated above, 17 years ago, pre DC.

I once peed in a bush next to the Western Approach Road, it was that bush or the car, does that make me a brutess?

Ickyface · 24/05/2011 18:34

Not everybody's personlity is the same. There is no one set norm, that's what makes us individual. It certaily doean't mean that there's something wrong.

OP herself writes that he's always shunned social activity, this is not a new occurrence and actually I know plenty of people that are happy in their own company and certainly wouldn't label them as aspergers/mentally ill.

I think the thread title says it all really... Obviously how the OP is feeling about her OH. It's a compatability issue that needs to be addressed, not writing him off as a "weirdo"

EricNorthmansMistress · 24/05/2011 19:43

Pissing in containers is very interesting behaviour. I work with teenagers who have experienced abuse and/or neglect in childhood and pissing/hoarding is very common behaviour. It's overwhelmingly male and certainly not indicative of a MH issue or LD in and of itself. Your H's behaviours on the whole resonate with me, several young men I know have been very similar. There is a big crossover between ASD, OCD, depression and pissing/hoarding but one doesn't necessarily indicate the others.

I do suspect that the OP's H may be somewhere on the autistic spectrum but I'd never presume to dx! What I will say is that pissing/hoarding is difficult behaviour to crack. It's something very primal and animal and it provides some strong comfort to the person. I would be very surprised if this had not been going on for a long time. It is, in my experience, (which is limited by definition) linked to physical neglect in childhood. Was he neglected? One boy used to urinate in his bed and could only sleep in a urine soaked bed. He was discovered aged 2 in a nappy which had clearly not been changed for days :( Something in that developmental stage is missing and causes a link to be formed between urine and comfort/soothing. There is also a suggestion that they do not move past the potty training stage when children are supported to be able to 'let go' to waste, and that it's linked to poor attachment to parent/carers. They are only theories though, there isn't an easy answer.

In any case, OP, are you willing to continue living like this? I have a H with AS traits and it's a difficult journey, learning his limitations and mine. Ultimately it's a trade off, the difficulties balanced against the positives. I would not stay with him if it was just a matter of convenience or to maintain his relationship with DS. My DH brings me love and fun (some of the time!) and it's worth it. Does yours?

susantheslut · 24/05/2011 20:12

He's taking the piss.

TheCrackFox · 24/05/2011 20:38

I don't think he sounds like he has Aspergers, he just sounds phenomenally selfish. Even before you mentioned the piss thing (and I think it is because he couldn't be arsed going to the toilet and then clean up after himself) your marriage doesn't sounds particularly happy.

Does he ever take the DCs out or is that entirely your job? It seems to me he does exactly as he pleases with his spare time and you and the Dcs are an after thought.

unavailable · 24/05/2011 20:40

Ericnorthernmistress gives good advice. I was also wondering about your DH's childhood experiences for similar reasons.

Suncottage · 24/05/2011 21:03

I think we are talking amongst ourseleves. OP has left the building.

Her post and let her have the last word on her DH.

clam · 24/05/2011 21:14

Dunno about the dh being weird, but her username certainly is.
Hmm

elliott · 24/05/2011 22:50

actually he sounds quite a lot like my dad. Who I have often thought is probably on the spectrum. My mum had to put up with a lot of pretty selfish behaviour from him, don't know how she did it sometimes, but she was very loving and would never have abandoned him.
I don't think this man sounds mentally ill, but he does sound like some of his behaviours are difficult to live with. Do you get much positive out of the relationship? Are you happy to put up with it? I guess, do you love him?

BarbieGrows · 24/05/2011 22:54

My OH has similarly disgusting habits (not quite taking the piss as susantheslut so put it) and my analysis of it is that he is 'marking territory'. Primeval and nasty but I think that hoarding stuff is like claiming space for yourself - saying 'I am here'. It is a sad thing that someone has to do this but equally I see it as being quite aggressive. Basically, he's not sharing - not working as a team with you and your kids. It's no way to run a relationship.

As I say mine is similar, and over the years I have learnt to leave his cups with fagbuts by his side of the bed - his clothes on the floor on his side of the room, his clutter in his clutter space (and not ours). This kind of disorder in the house will have the effect of confusing the rest of the family - they are simple acts but they speak volumes.

I think OP has to put a stop to this now, in whatever way she needs to. This kind of thing is not acceptable - whether aspie, autism, nerdy geekishness, medical expertise, or just plain dog-like weeing on imaginary lamp-posts. Autism and aspergers you are born with, you would have known about this years ago if it were a problem.

All you can do is set your boundaries, make them clear, refuse to let his behaviour impinge on you. If they keep on, refuse to accept it and lay down the law. I think you are doing exactly that. If he wants his own territory, let him go and find a flat all of his own.

Amy188 · 21/12/2014 19:56

Autistic, no question.

My husband pees in bottles.
Started a few weeks ago. He leaves them in his bedroom. I have emptied the first couple of them. They were absolutely disgusting...imagine a litre+ of stale urine. I have commented on it to him so he sometimes empties them in the bathroom sink. No bleach cleaning or anything, as has one of you noted

I have also found a huge glass next To the kitchen sink. It was empty but smelt the same.
I know now after spending an awful lot of time and effort to ty and figure him out, that he is autistic.
We've known each other for over 15 yrs been married for 12. He's always been traveling a lot..practically absent at al times. That's why it took me so long to find out what he 's made of.
Unfortunately his autism does not stop there. he beat me and his ex as it turns out. Although I was never allowed to meet her, I know that from the police. He doesn't hit me anymore but recently started pissing into bottles in his bedroom and keeps them there (he hVe always had problems with hygiene I know now that's part of his autism)
I think what triggered this behaviour recently is that he is not travelling anymore. He hardly ever tells me anything if it's not a lie then it's just 'economical with the truth. But what I know, He's back in Blighty having to work along someone else on a screwed up project.
He spends most of his nights in hotels, which he will not get reimbursed for as he did abroad for all those years (presumably trying to re-live the jetting around the world life stile he had before). He has other issues to(secrecy, lies, pornography).
My take on this a that it's all about insecurity.
He's been getting away with everything for so many years. But someone somewhere found him out (possibly misbehaviour on a project abroad) and now he's being told what to do where to be. And he's ain't happy about it!
Well, Ladies make what you like of it, but I'm sure a lot if this sounds familiar!

Take care, and all the best for Christmas :)

Amy

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2014 20:23

zombie thread

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2014 20:25

Amy, your husband is an abuser whether he has autistic tendencies or not (which I doubt)

IME, autistic people are generally gentle and would be horrified at the thought of beating up their partner

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