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My husband has evolved into a weirdo

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MrsTwat · 24/05/2011 11:27

Have name changed as there are a few peeps on here who know me in RL and I dont want my RL world to know about this as I am embarrassed if I am being totally honest. This is going to be a right old ramble I fear as I try and explain things.

Married 10 years. Together 15. 2 DC 13 and 10. DH has never been a particuarly social person. Never had any close friends long term mates really a few peeps that come and go but then we have moved around alot in our marriage due to his job. I however, make the most of where ever we live and always seem to have some kind of social group of friends. Things between us are OK. Not fab but not awful. I do sense we are not as close these days but then we do little together. He does not like the things I like to do and I am not that keen on his interests either. We do just tend to just rub along. I am not unhappy but slowly realising how little time we enjoy together.

We had a long distance relationship for about 18months before moving in together. I now realise thats some of his persona he put across to me before moving in together was not 100% accurate- although he never actively lied. What I am trying to say is that I never got the impression he was an unsociable person. When we used to see each other, me where he lived and when he came to my town - we used to spend alot of our time out with other people and having fun. Within 6 months of us setting up home together (where he was then working) I fell pregnant - not planned (DC now just turned 13).

We then spent the following few years with babies and toddlers and no support network as we lived 500 miles from family. We rarely went out together. Infact my DC were 3 and 1 before I went out again. He would go to the occassional work curry night or similar. For years and years it was like this as we moved house every few years. Slowly it dawned on me and through some discussions together he admitted he disliked socialising really and couldnt be arsed with it. He knows friends are important to me and we have slipped into this kind of seperate social lives. He plays PS3/walks up hills, I go for coffee/lunch/pub/shopping with a mate and still pop to my home town every 6 to 8 weeks for an overnight stay to see my parents and best friend.

He is a very optomistic person and he spends his free time mountain biking, mountain/hill walking and gaming on the PS3. All of which he does alone. Occassionally me or one or both of the kids will join him on his walking or biking, occassionally a friend/mate from work but for most part he goes alone. He is certainly not depressed. He loved his job and is so enthusiastic about these few things in life. He is also a fab full hands on Dad to our DC.

People do notice how unsociable he is and I worry that he comes accross as rude. We had a small street party (4 families) in our street for the Royal Wedding and he was the only 1 who didnt join in on the day. He stayed in playing PS3. The other families commented in a jokey way that they rarely see him, he rarely speaks to even say hello and joked it was embarrassing in the mornings when they were all getting into their cars at the same time (in a cimmunal car park by our houses) and he does not even make eye contact with them. One person said he looks embarrassed to say hello. I just told them he is shy - which I suppose he is/must be.

However, he does spend ALOT of time alone. I will go out and do stuff with my mates, our DC etc. For instance if the DC want to go into town shopping on a weekend I will take them -they go off with their mates shopping and I do my own shopping. Its a win win situation - we then meet for lunch or tea and go home to DH who is either sat infront of the PS3 or back from a 12 mile hike.

DH hoards stuff galore. Hard to believe with the amount of times we have moved in the past 12 years but he wont chuck anything and its now getting to be a bit ridiculous. Our bedroom is piled high around the edges of stuff he will not chuck - old computers, old TVs and clothes. He has a tripple wardrobe, 2 chests and clothes piled high in the bedroom. he wont chuck any of it. We have had chats and rows about this over the years but nothing changes. He hides stuff in the attic and then when we move it obviously gets found. You would not believe some of the stuff he has kept.

Last weekend me and DC cleared their rooms. They decided they wanted to chuck their old videos out. So I just binned them - black bag ready for bin day yesterday. I work in a charity shop and videos have stopped selling and we have recently stopped accepting them as wer cannot give them away. No one I know has a video anymore so I just thought I would bin them.

Well he has gone mental. These are Disney videos. most of which the DC have duplicated on DVD. I have just resigned myself they will remian in the carrier bags he has put them in placed behind the diningroom door. He will do nothing with them and I cant face a row so its another pile of shit just sitting in the corner of yet another room.

Something else happend on the weekend which has really made me stand back and look at him and I suddenly see a bit of a loner weirdo freak and not my husband.

I swear to god I am not making this up.

I got up Sunday morning to our usually chaotic messy kitchen. Loads of glasses/dishes etc waiting to go in the dishwasher, which was waiting to be emptied. I noticed something yellow in a glass and just knew straight away it was urine. I sniffed it and it was. My 10yo was with me and also guessed what it was. I took the glass through to my husband who was in the lounge on the PS3 and asked him why he had done it. He looked a little embarrassed but didnt deny it. I asked if it was because he could not be arsed to shift his arse upstairs to the loo. He said nothing and played his game and asked me to throw it away. I refused. I left it on the kitchen windowsill for him to dispose ofand cleared the rest of the kitchen. Went out to the Gym and shops etc.

Later that day he came over all amorous to me. I told him to piss off. His pissing in the glass had upset me, pissed me off and I thought it was vile and disgusting. He then mumbled something about thinking he had something in his urine and needed to look at it. I dont believe this. It took him 7 hours to come up with this. Further discussion last night about his Drs visit to get checked out, confirm my doubts. He is way too vague about the details and he reckons he has to wait until next week for an appointment when I phoned yesterday and got offerd 4 different appointments for myself for yesterday or today. Infact our med centre is linked to his work and personnel generally get priority for appointments. That said in the 14 months we have lived here I have always managed to get a same day or next day appointment.

Further still, assuming he is being honest and he wanted to look at his urine there are other containers he could have used - several sample bottles in the first aid cupboard as our DC has kidney issues. Secondly - why just leave it out.

More disgusting though that was when he realised he had to dispose of the glass of piss himself, he just chucked it down the sink. No bleach, just a little run of the tap.

Every glass in the house has been dishwasherd - but I now find myself no wanting used the glasses. I am not usually such a wuss with things but this has just turned my stomach. There have been a few incidents before when I have smelt urine in the kitchen or even the bathroom sink (have a sepearate loo) but just never thought much about it. Am now wondering if its my husband.

I dunno - the wee incident has kind of flipped a switch in my head which has me thinking - he has gone too far with his wierdness now. I have just been totally turned off.Sad

Dunno what I want anyone to say or suggest - perhaps an outsider view on how they would feel if their husband did the same.

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Suncottage · 24/05/2011 15:25

Madonna

Course I think it is rank but there is a big difference between bone idleness and a PD.

Not sure what to think and OP has no idea how long he has been doing it.

I once heard of a girl who peed into mugs in her bedroom because she was an alcoholic and that is how she hid it from her flatmates, she tried to never visit the bathroom when she was pissed so they wouldn't spot her. Her friend found her passed out and the mugs were lined up on her windowledge.

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bbird1 · 24/05/2011 15:31

Hoarding is v v common - I know loads of people who hoard. Some take it to extreme lengths but it doesnt sound like your hub has - more of a pain in the arse type hoarder rather than a full on OCD-er.
The wee thing - blokes do that. I have pissed in glass when cant be arsed going upstairs (dont want to wake people up). Where he went wrong is in forgetting to dispose of it. Sounds like daft mistake on his part but to suggest it is possibly onset of mental illness is jumping the gun big time. Fact that he was embarassed about it shows he had meant to dispose of it and didnt want you to find it. Idle, yes, mentally ill - well if that makes somebody mentally ill send the men in white coats round to mine pls.
Regarding reclusiveness - well he just sounds shy to me. Nothing wrong with that. We cant all be the life and soul of the party. Some people just find other people irritating.
Only thing I would be worried about really is PS3. Gaming addiction is a fucking pain in the arse to live with. It gets worse over time and takes over people's lives. I would unplug the fucker and tell him to grow up. But that's me.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 15:36

Honestly I think he couldn't be arsed to go to the loo, then forgot about the glass of piss sitting in the kitchen.
Or maybe he did want to inspect his wee?

I think you've been freaked out by this and your imagination is going into overdrive. He has only done this once...it's not a habit of his.

Wee is sterile btw - what would bleach do?

I think you're being a bit uptight if I'm completely honest. He's done this ONCE. Calm down eh? xx

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 15:38

Or indeed - everything Bbird said down there vvvvv.

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carlywurly · 24/05/2011 16:02

All those things in isolation, maybe. But together it makes for someone who must be quite hard to live with.

The lack of eye contact, ability to engage socially, and repetitive behaviours could point towards autistic traits, but it's hard enough dxing this in person, never mind over the internet, so none of us are qualified to say either way. If you're wondering, there is a really good autism quotient test for adults by Simon Baron Cohen on the web, which may help you identify traits if you google,will try and find a link.

Also agree that gaming is life sapping but if that's his interest, I'm not sure what you can do. It's when it takes priority over family life that it becomes a real problem imo.

And this talk of hoarding has actually made me go and clear out a room. DP is convinced that hoarding is a real reflection of someone's mental state - definitely true of his mother, she has shampoo in her bathroom which has the old-style M&S logo on there - must be at least 20 years old!.. I positively itch to clear out while I'm there.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:07

Oh fgs!

My dh doesn't say hi to the neighbours either...because he's an unsociable git...not because he's mentally ill or has autism!!

He also has few friends, and is addicted to gaming.

He ALSO hoards a load of crap.

And he would SO piss in a glass because he couldn't be fucked leaving the battle on WoW to go to the toilet. He has never done this, to my knowledge, but I wouldn't put it past him.

Oh - and he's a very keen mountaineer too.

My husband is not mentally ill and does not have aspergers. Jesus Christ get a grip!

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Renaissance227 · 24/05/2011 16:12

Well said Pictish.
There are many unsociable men out there who like the outdoors and gaming and are too lazy (and disgusting) to go to the toilet if there is a glass handy and a good game going!

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MrsTwat · 24/05/2011 16:15

Thanks for your replies! Am shocked that so many of you think this is mental illness and is something I will bear in mind.

I accept the shyness/unsociable side is not really an issue. I do just get in with my life, as I could no way be like he is. I am sad however, that we dont socialise as a couple. Sometimes I feel lonely going to everything on my own. One aspect that has changed though over the years is that I actually prefer going out on my own and not having to worry about his uncomfortableness anymore. I have a whole side of my life that he knows no one. My kids know these people and socialise with them too but when me and the kids chat about these people my husband has no idea who we are discussing.

The wee thing is only the once as far as I know and to be fair I dont think he was storing the wee, just leaving it out for some unknown reason. I have my suspicions he has pissed in the sinks before now though.

Thank you all for your input. Its nice and refreshing to get outsiders pov as this is not something I would discuss in rl.

With regards to the poster who mentioned her DH flossing, Well, my DH is also obsessive about his teeth. He too flosses anywhere and everywhere. Another habit of his that makes me feel a bit icky is his shaving. He has recently stopped wet shaving and bought an electric shaver. He shaves all over the house. Sits on the sofa, in the kitchen (boak) etc. I just imagine all those little stubble bits dropping everywhere but he seems to think his shaver collects them. I dont think I am OCD about hygiene and cleanliness - our house is far from clean or spotless - disorganised chaos would be a better discription. I am far too busy with college work and my job to spend too much time worrying over housework etc.

I dunno, maybe its just me. All I seem to see is distasteful habits from him atm. Sad.

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madonnawhore · 24/05/2011 16:16

Regardless of whether he has a bona fide mental illness or not, I really think you are within your rights to insist that something is done about the hoarding and clutter. That is incredibly controlling and domineering of him to impose a state of shiteholeness on yours and your DC's environment.

It's not fair.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:19

I deal with it by throwing it away when he's not here.

If he says 'have you seen that (insert item of crap that was clogging up the cupboard here)?'
I say 'no love...where did you put it?' and look at him blankly.
He has NO idea where he has put anything ever, so he accepts that he has lost it and it'll turn up.
Then he promptly forgets all about it.

Works for us. Wink

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:20

To add - he very rarely ever enquires after anything I've thrown out anyway...the response below is for the very rare occasion when he does.

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Suncottage · 24/05/2011 16:22

Pictish

Yep, that is what I do and over the years he has never noticed that missing cassette or VHS tape or outdated road atlas etc etc.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:23

Outdated road atlas? Hahahaaaa!

Yup Wink

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Suncottage · 24/05/2011 16:26

Actually I should have just pluralised all those items. Hmm

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TechLovingDad · 24/05/2011 16:27

Hang on, what's with all this blokes piss in glasses cos they are lazy bollocks?

No we don't, that's disgusting. If I did that, I'd expect to be out on my ear. I stopped pissing anywhere other than the toilet when I came out of nappies.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:32

Hee hee heee...
Ripped jeans and t-shirts 'for painting in'
Old computer disks
Cables, leads and assorted electrical paraphanalia
Old cassettes/videos
Outdated road atlases
Hi fi and computing equipment that no longer works
Old trainers 'for the garden'

etc etc

All disposed of quietly by me.

Oh and another good fob off 'maybe you dumped it when we were moving?' - doesn't matter when you last moved...they can never remember what they did at the time.

Be more cunning OP. x

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:35

Aye Tech dad - but I bet you scratch your bum then sniff your fingers. Grin

Point being - we all have some habits that are less than savoury. It does not equate mental illness! Confused

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TechLovingDad · 24/05/2011 16:40

Nope, don't do that either, pick my nose and stuff, yeah. Pissing in things and leaving them about is way more than a less than savoury habit.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:45

Oh God - let it go. He did it once!

If you're going to sit there and tell me you have never done anything that someone else would consider revolting, then I'm going to tell you to bog off and wipe the vaseline off your own life goggles.

OP - please, I implore you - perspective ok? Stop letting this lot flip you out even further. Tell your dh he freaked you out and to never ever do that again. Closure for Pissgate. xxx

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shesgotherlipstickon · 24/05/2011 16:52

I see the MN Dr's and psychologists are out again, diagnosing some form of ASD.

It's fucking irritating, you can't go around saying he has ASD, from the op, surefire diagnosis. It takes years to be formally diagnosed. The belittling of such disorders, makes it into a piss take for those really struggling with ASD.

Op maybe he is just an unsociable lazy git, maybe he is a bit of a loner, maybe he has a mental disorder such as depression. Maybe it was a one off as he was in COD, or whatever and forgot to dispose of it. However disgusting that is.

Either way, if you want to know for sure, talk to a DR. Don't start telling your husband he is ASD, or something, using google DR Hmm

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TechLovingDad · 24/05/2011 16:56

Pictish he didnt do it once. Also my comment was solely aimed at whoever said bloke's piss in glasses all the time.

I never mentioned mental illness or anything else. Wind your neck in.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 16:58

He didn't do what once?
Pee in a glass?
Yeah he did - he did it once.

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TechLovingDad · 24/05/2011 16:59

OP said she found it once but then realised she's smelled piss lots of times and thinks he's done it lots.

Anyway, as I said my comment was purely in response to whoever said blokes piss in glasses or other things cos they are lazy. No they don't, not usually anyway.

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JanMorrow · 24/05/2011 17:00

The pissing thing (whilst it would bother me) isn't the issue here though, maybe he WAS too lazy to do anything.. I think that's a side issue.

Loads of people are on the autistic spectrum without being outwardly "weird" to other people. If you met my cousin you wouldn't think he was an aspie.. it can be really mild and just explain certain quirks. It's nothing to be frightened of. I just recognise a lot of what the OP describes, I'm not saying her DH actually has it.. let's ignore that for now because perhaps it's distracting, I'm not going to diagnose anyone from one post so I apologise!

Either way, she needs to talk to him about interacting with her and the kids more if nothing else.. and throwing away some of the crap. Clutter can be really depressing in a house.

Also, an adult male sitting gaming all day is not helpful or healthy when there are kids to be brought up. I love computer games myself and I know they can be absorbing, but like anything, there needs to be moderation.

Have a chat with him about your concerns OP.

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Pictish · 24/05/2011 17:03

My mate, who is a painter and decorator, got locked in someone's garage once....while he was waiting for the woman to come back and let him out, he badly needed to go. He held on and on, but ended up touching cloth.
He ended up curling one out in an empty paint pot, and putting the lid back on.

When he was finally let out, he had forgotten all about the jobby in the pot, so left it there.

He really really hoped the woman didn't decide to check if there was any paint left in it. Can you imagine??!! Shock Grin

I shall let him know that he has aspergers forthwith. Thank God I clicked on this thread!

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