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My boyfriend and i have split up

126 replies

fairyfly · 03/10/2005 20:24

If anyone needs some advice on totally messing up relationships please cat me. I am perfecting the art.

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fairyfly · 03/10/2005 21:08

Thanks TurQ........????

Cod you have confused me beyond belief

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SherlockLGJ · 03/10/2005 22:04

FF

Sorry to say this, but if they are commitment phobic they generally stay that way, there are men out there like WWW's dp but they are few and far between.

I loved my first real boyfriend to the point of madness, I would have done anything for him, gone anywhere for him.

We were relatively young, but after together two years I asked him to consider our position and said that I was not looking for a major commitment for quite a while but as we seemed to suit each other so well, could he please have a think about where he saw us in 10 years time.

I spent two whole days agonising before I rang him, we arranged to meet and into the conversation I dropped, the reference to my question, so have you thought about it ?? thought about what ???

That was all I needed to know, I started to remove myself from the relationship, it took a long time, but I did it.

I then had a few brief flings which I enjoyed before I met DH.

The week before I was due to marry DH he rang me and asked me not to do it. He told me he loved me and that he would always love me.

He used to tell me that no one measured up to me and that is why 16 years later he is still single.But I have slowly come to the conclusion that he is a commitment phobe.

He is 43, he has no mortgage, ergo no home, he doesn't drive, I gave up calling him in the evenings as if you left it too late he would be p*ed.

This is a very long post and what I am trying to say to you is that the man I fell in love with at 21 is exactly the same 20 years later, he is commitment averse and only really wants life on his terms.

Sorry if this a bit harsh.

Dropinthepotion · 03/10/2005 22:08
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Octobernow · 03/10/2005 22:28

Oh, ff I'm sorry to read this But I just want to back up WWW's post. My dh and I were friends for 8 years before we got together. He said all that time that he was in love with me but I was off elsewhere etc. When we did get together I fell for him completely and he began to back away. I moved towns to be with him and very soon said i wanted us to start a family. (poor bloke) He literally ran out of the house.

He came back and said he was scared of committing to me because he'd been hurt before, and had also seen me dump previous boyfriends. I gave him an ultimatum and meant it - he came round after a week or so. Even after two children together he was reluctant to marry me and it took another ultimatum - he gave in then also but only after four years.

Your boyfriend sounds like a lovely bloke and he will understand that you have to protect your boys from getting too attached if he's going to clear off - he will understand why you have brought this up.

FWIW I think he's scared that you may still be the Fairyfly he has seen all along (oh, you know what I'm trying to say - it's what mine said to me) and daren't commit himself yet.

Not all men who say they don't want commitment mean it, ime. Some change their minds when it's too late though, so if I were you I'd give yourselves a bit more time.

ThomBat · 03/10/2005 22:29

Really sorry to read this.

SherlockLGJ · 03/10/2005 22:30

I am happy to be proved wrong.

Octobernow · 03/10/2005 22:38

Oh, I have been out with commitmentphobes and was practically stalked by one after I finally gave him the elbow (this after miscarrying his baby and him saying 'well, thank God that's that decision made') But I knew he was an arse all along really, if I'm honest.

Ff's man doesn't sound remotely similar.

SherlockLGJ · 03/10/2005 22:39

Which is why I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

doormat · 03/10/2005 22:40

fairyfly I am so sorry to hear your news

Flossam · 03/10/2005 22:43

Sorry FF. Hope you are feeling better soon. Silly fool that he obviously is. xxx

vickitrickortreatmum · 03/10/2005 22:45

for you FF.

marthamoo · 03/10/2005 23:14

Oh FF, I'm so sorry.

Pixiefish · 03/10/2005 23:16

sorry to hear this ff

steffee · 03/10/2005 23:34

Sorry to hear that fairyfly, but you never know what might happen next. Never say never and all that. And yes, it's true, if it's meant to be it'll be no matter what you try and do to change it, if it slips away then there's something better round the corner.

Janh · 03/10/2005 23:37

Oh FF, love

aloha · 03/10/2005 23:38

Sorry about that FF. Cod is being very funny though IMO.
Don't cry!

CountessDracula · 03/10/2005 23:38

FF OH bugger

I bet he comes round though, you did rather put him on the spot did you not?

fairyfly · 04/10/2005 07:43

I have to put him on the spot, i am not getting stuck in following a pattern of men that wont commit to me, I have been hurt. Two choices when you are a single mum, you either become a victim and bitter or you only set your sights high and expect full on commitment. Everything in his language suggested to me i was always going to be around but he would get on with his life. I got sick of hearing his plans with his friends, biking round spain next year etc.
It seemed to me he cant project a future for us but he is quite happy to make plans for his friends.
You do know really deep down, he is/was my best friend and a family is not on his agenda.
I firmly believe i deserve more and ultimately my kids. If it means i am single forever so be it.

I often think why do other women have it all when i can't. I don't want to have a boyfriend all my life. I want someone to share with.
When he leaves us after a day out it feels horrible, i'm back to being alone. I don't want a life like that.
I'm not going to just sit on my arse and wait and hope, i am taking control of my own destiny. I want the reins back.
For those of you that think its too soon, he should know by now, For 12 years he has said he was in love with me. I adore him and my children love him. Everything will not get any better than this.
This isn't easy and not some game, i feel heartbroken ( again). But once your children start asking if he is going to be taking care of them you have to make some pretty hasty decisions.
They feel it as much as i do, they also want to be tucked in every night. Not just when the man of our lives isn't busy or hasn't had a better offer.
I have just totally rambled, sorry, nervous energy. I'm not going to fall to pieces, im sticking my head into my work and going to the gym. It's just really f'ing dissapointing.

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Papillon · 04/10/2005 07:53

seems to be ff that you are being realistic of the facts as hard as it may be.

He may come round he may not. The important thing is that YOU are taking control of the future you want now and not lingering in hope and wistfulness for someone´s elses plans to include you.

take care

Carmenere · 04/10/2005 07:54

Hi Fairfly, I don't know the situation but from reading this thread I think you are admirably strong and absolutely correct. You should have high expectations for you and your kids, if you don't what kind of a parent would you be? Well done and good luck, I hope you feel better soon

SherlockLGJ · 04/10/2005 07:55

Good post FF.

Thinking of you.

anorak · 04/10/2005 08:44

Hi FF, Just read this thread. I feel you have sound reasons for what you're doing. The fact that your bf is such a nice guy makes it all the more difficult for you to do this.

I had an ex like this, we were together a year when the girls were small. I loved him enormously, in fact I would say at that point I loved him more than anyone else I'd ever been with. But he was a commitment phobe and I had to do all the arranging. If I said, 'let's go to the cinema, or a concert' or whatever, he'd happily go with me, but it didn't occur to him to make the arrangements. He worked shifts and never knew when his days off would be, so I'd wait by the phone for days and then finally call him to find he'd just had his two days off and spent them at home playing his guitar. He just didn't understand why that wound me up.

After a year I began to ask questions about our future. At one point I said if he didn't envisage there being at least the possibility of a future together, then maybe we should split. I told him that I loved him too much to invest any further without there being at least the chance of a future.

A few weeks later after a great night out he gently told me he thought we shouldn't see each other any more. He had himself a new girlfriend lined up (I found out within a couple of days).

I was inconsolable and cried every day for months. I knew he had loved me in his own way and felt guilty, he continued to come and see me trying to soften things for me and I begged him to come back, but a few months later he went back to his home in Australia and took his new girlfriend with him, which was a terrible slap in the face for me. However within a year he had packed her back to London, and by then I felt sorry for the girl.

I knew that I'd loved him so much it had distorted my view. I vowed that I would never marry till I met someone I loved more. I knew that if I did they would always be in his shadow. I then had various relationships for the next three years, some better than others, but although I loved some of them (I love easily), I never wanted anything long-term with them.

Then I got sick of the bumpy ride and the meaninglessness of it all and I went into therapy. After a few months I knew I had to split with my then boyfriend who I did love but we'd always made better friends and I knew that deep down. I then decided to stay on my own and stop messing about until I met someone who was prepared to put into a relationship the same effort I would. Six months later I had got out of the habit of looking for someone, and I met my dh. I knew within weeks that he was the right person, and when I gave him the 'I need to know' talk, we were engaged within weeks.

I knew I'd met the person I could love more than the Australian guy, and I'd finally stopped pining for him. My dh is just as kind and sweet as he was, but far less lazy. He works as hard at things as I do. So it's better, and there's room for me to love him more.

FF, your bf is great, but I think you may be right about this. If he really wants you he will be back with more commitment. If not then you will have to get over it and hope you can still be friends. Then get yourself strong and not needy any more before you launch into another romance. Your Mr Right is out there, but he is so special that you might take a little time to find him. I assure you once you do you will never look at another man. He'll be worth the wait. xxx

LadyFioOfTipton · 04/10/2005 08:49

i think you have done the right thing, you are so fabulous. He will need his head read if he gives up on this and you let the dust settle, keep your cool and see how things pan out xx

LadyFioOfTipton · 04/10/2005 08:51

oh what a bloody great post anporak, you really make me look quite pathetic

SherlockLGJ · 04/10/2005 10:24

Excellent post Anorak.