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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Into 2011!

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Mouseface · 01/01/2011 12:51

Hello and a Happy New Year!

I'm Mouse, one of the passengers on this wonderful journey to sobriety! Smile

We are a real mixed bunch of people, all trying to control or give up the booze - ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Come meet the others.........

And here are the previous threads, the journeys so far

OP posts:
poshsinglemum · 08/01/2011 19:16

Hi; no booze tonight. Only hot chocolate. it feels good!

dementedma · 08/01/2011 19:44

Hi Scrumpet - I suspect there is still a stigma and an element of shame. I certainly would never admit to anyone in RL how much i drink because I am ashamed. Only the people on here know. Among fellow "sufferers" there is no shame becuase we know how insidious the drink demon is, and how hard it is to fight.
Now that i am managing to cut down - and there is no saying how long this will last - I am appalled at my previous intake and yes, there is a huge element of shame. But recognising that you have a problem is the first step and you have come to the right bus place.

jesuswhatnext · 08/01/2011 21:19

off back to bed now, 2 whole hours up is obviously my limit for the moment!

with regards to shame - i feel terrible shame for what ive put my family through, i feel shame for the things ive said and done and i feel ashamed that i denyed the problem for so long - i feel absolutly NO shame in saying im an alcoholic, and i feel absolutly NO shame in asking for help, in fact, i feel stronger for admitting the problem, the turmoil is over, serenity reigns and life is good, whats to be ashamed of?

tbh, i think the stigma of 'being an alkie' will never go if we dont start admitting openly that there is a problem, that 'alkies' are not just the poor buggers on the park bench with a can of cider but the'nice middle class' people with 3 bottles for &12 in their shopping trolleys!

have a good night everyone!

see you tomorrow!

L XXXXXXXXX

btw, bafana, you'll be fine my love, just let yourself grieve for a while, its normal! Smile and it does get better!

jesuswhatnext · 08/01/2011 21:21

doh! £12 obviously, guess who hasnt got her specs on?

GnomeDePlume · 08/01/2011 21:26

Hi Scrumpet - I so recognise the drinking to celebrate anything and everything.

No worries! We are on the bus! There is no shame here. Just lots of people who understand what you are talking about.

I have given up drinking wine but not given up eating crap. DH is celebrating our new found sobriety through the medium of yummy treats. So I'm off to find out what he meant when he said that we had something nice tonight!

notevenasnowflake · 08/01/2011 21:56

Hi Scrumpet.
I'm noteven and I'm an alcoholic.
I have had social services called on me twice when I have asked for help from services, once just this week because I had a serious relapse last weekend. (I am the person venus mentions). I was, however a daily drinker, and it's only one day at a time that I'm not at the moment, and I had been trying to control my drinking for months if not a couple of years. Because of social services, I currently have to do the alcohol service programme of "don't you know how bad alcohol is" and "there are 3 units in a glass of wine" etc.

I go to AA. I wouldn't say being on here is like an online AA meeting - maybe an open one I guess. It is a place for anything that works - which is a wonderful thing. You will find those of us who feel that for our own personal situations, AA is the answer, and those who feel that controlled drinking might work for them. And no conflict or argument about that. AA, however, doesn't endorse controlled drinking as far as I can tell.
I feel judged for my drinking by everyone apart from the wonderful ladies (and MIFLAW) here and the amazing people I have met through AA. The people at AA have been the most amazing, kind, supportive, loving people I have ever met. I need AA because of my drinking. I am still terrified sometimes before I go, I don't understand everything they say either, but I wouldn't write it off for that reason. Have you had a look at their website? It's pretty good at helping you consider whether they might or might not be for you.

I wish tbh I'd only done AA but that's because I didn't know how good it was in the beginning - we do the best we can at the time I guess.

What a ramble! Sorry and hello everyone else!

I am home from my AA meeting - was small but a lot that resonated. Racing brain in a big way today, and I phoned a lovely lady I met the other day. I have made it through without a drink, my house is clean, my dd well cared for, and I will fall into bed having done my best. It's been hard though. Night, night, brave babes.

dementedma · 08/01/2011 22:02

well done noteven - you are making serious progress. you should be really proud!

venusandmarshmallow · 08/01/2011 22:14

noteven I feel vey moved by what you've written tonight. It IS wonderful that you are going to bed on a Saturday night without having had a drink, and that you can appreciate your clean house, your precious dd and recognise your own efforts. All blessings to you.

desiretochange · 08/01/2011 22:14

Evening everyone, and welcome to all newbies:) Am finishing day 8 here and thankfully still feeling good, forgot to mention earlier that I had a brilliant night's sleep last night and finally feel that the alcohol has left my system. Have another birthday party tomorrow evening but it is in a house this time, am going to bring a bottle of red wine as gift for lady who is hosting the party but was thinking of bringing some cranberrie juice to drink from a wine glass so that I don't draw attention to myself, good idea or not??

venusandmarshmallow · 08/01/2011 22:27

Excellent idea desire. Also the very favourite of this thread - the N&T (nothing and tonic). No-one but you will know that the gin/vodka is absent.

Sleep well again tonight.

desiretochange · 08/01/2011 22:30

Thanks Venus, am glad we both got through last night without any wobbles, I know now that for me abstinence is the key so going to take it a day at a time! Goodnight brave babes!

GnomeDePlume · 08/01/2011 22:33

Hi Desire - I think once the party gets going people wont notice what you are drinking. Will there be soft drinks at the party? At parties I found that I got over-caffeined by drinking too much diet coke. Sometimes I drink tonic water - it feels grown-up and I can sip it rather than gulp it.

I hope you have a lovely time at the party.

Rubyredlips · 09/01/2011 08:51

Morning all.

Noteven your message was really moving. It's so inspirational at how far you have come.

Desire hope you enjoy the party. Tonic or cranberry sounds like a great plan.

Scrumpet today will be day 2 for you without a drink Smile. Wrt making sober friends, I would say that you shouldn't worry about that, you need to think about today and not project. There are loads of people out there who don't drink or only have the odd one. Look at the people on here Grin

Bafana Hope today is better. You are grieving and should allow yourself to go through it. You're right, alcohol would not make the situation better. Well done on the cigs too, I stopped nearly three years ago and it was the best thing I've done (well equal with recognising that I have a problem with alcohol). The Allen Carr book really helped me.
Hi to everyone else

Spamspamspam · 09/01/2011 10:46

Hi all, gosh this thread moves so quickly it is difficult to keep up!

venus - I really felt for you on Friday night but so chuffed that you made it through also desire so glad you made it through Friday - both of you really helped me stick to my resolve.

Friday night I had many wobbles, it is a real end of the week "Friday Night, pub and chinese" night in our household. We go to a lovely child friendly pub have a few glasses with some great friends and then come home to a chinese and then I usually start on another bottle of wine and probably finish the lot! The kids were whining to go but I stayed firm and we didn't go. Thankfully my DH is in this with me, we both drink too much and realise things had to change. DH is not as "addicted" as me I don't think, he can far easier switch it off and not drink for a few days and he sleeps much better etc. Thing with him is that he does five days and then wants a beer one night, then can switch off again however I usually have five days off then drink one evening and then the next night think oh well might as well drink tonight and so it goes on.

Saturday also challenging - I went to a 25th wedding anniversary, all my friends and family were there and all drinking, I wasn't driving, I hadn't had a drink for 6 days so could easily have done the usual "well I have been good this week, will just drink tonight and get back on it tomorrow" but I didn't. Big wobble at the bar, looked over and saw my friend who had also resolved to give up in January had ordered herself a large wine and thought....well you know the thoughts....but then said NO, just NO!

So here were are on day 8, sleep getting a bit easier with the help of Nytol, not waking up so "hungover" feeling and generally feel calmer and happier in myself.
Realise I have been snappy and miserable for some months and this is due to anxiety and fear about my drinking and overall health.

Bafana - great about the smoking! I also need to stop smoking, have done it many times in the past and given up for 3 years before, sadly keep going back to it but decided this year to do something about it.
Not yet though, one thing at a time for me...

Scrumpet can really really relate to the eating/versus drinking thing. I definately don't drink as much if I leave drinking until after I have eaten. I like a wine when I am cooking and notice that I drink a lot more if I start earlier, if I wait until I have eaten and drunk (water) I usually find I don't actually want to drink wine so this I am going to keep reminding myself.

Jesus - Has it really been seven months? WOW! I am seriously impressed, I remember your first post as if it was yesterday and of course it really struck a chord with me - you are inspirational.

Really liking the feeling that this is an online AA meeting. I would never go to AA because I am too ashamed. I have convinced myself for years that I don't have a problem as everyone I know drinks however forgetting them, I do have an addictive character and I can't just leave it at once or twice a week. I do have some rules that I stick to but even then how bizarre to have adopted all these rules in my life relating to drink! I.e. I won't drink during the day unless it is a real occasion i.e. Christmas or going to the Races or something. I usually don't drink until the kiddies have gone to bed unless we are out at the aforementioned pub or have friends round etc. I will never drink and drive, I won't drink or I drink very small amounts at work events or before big work presentations/meetings etc. I have nnever drank when pregnant - errm think there are a few more but can't think what they are now..

Sorry for the big ramble Blush but one last thing which is a TOP TIP (IMHO) and that is to take Chromium Picolinate - it is a mineral that you can get in tablet form in most health food shops it really controls the blood sugar levels. I was really craving sugar earlier in the week but since taking th chromium that has slowed down quite considerably.

jesuswhatnext · 09/01/2011 11:08

morning all!

feeling a bit better here, thank god!

spam, well done for saying no, its a lot harder than it sounds isnt it?, i have found though, it gets better with practice! Grin, it also helps now when we are out with friends that because i have been totally open about it, when it comes to the next persons round they just get me an N&T, thats now 'my' drink iyswim? - makes life so much easier, no wobbling or umming or ahhing - the only time a friend has put me in a drinking position was NYE, the hostess was rushing about passing out glasses of champagne and just handed me one, not deliberate nastyness at all, just a flustered hostess making sure all her guests had a drink, luckily my bf saw and came and rescued me (she then drank it down and spent the next half hour with hiccups! Grin)

wrt the 'rules', miflaw is of the opinion that people who dont have have problem dont have rules, they just have a drink, or not, as the fancy takes them - i think he is proberbly right!

desiretochange · 09/01/2011 11:24

Morning JWN, you feeling better?
Spam well done on saying no, not an easy thing to do sometimes.

BafanatheSober · 09/01/2011 11:36

Morning all

New day, new attitude!!!

I took a couple of sleeping tablets last night, and everything looks a lot better this morning, the same problems are still there, but hey - I can deal with them. I can break them down into bitesize manageable chunks and deal with them individually instead of being overwhelmed with the enormity of them all!

Have just spent the last half hour shovelling the paths and the road outside, so feel likes a good start to the day!

Glad to see you feeling better JWN

Lots of really fantastic posts on here in the last couple of days, You lot are bloody inspiring! spam noteven desire and as always venus you have all said things in the last couple of days that I can really really identify with.

I said to someone at AA on Friday, that it almost (note almost - not actually) a shame for people who don't have a drink problem, they then don't have the joy and clarity that comes with stopping. Have you noticed that recovering alcoholics tend to find so much inner peace and joy in the simple things. I always remember people commenting on Russell Brand - that sometimes he comes across as being on something, even although he has been sober for over 10 years. He just seems to always find the good in the moment.

It is something that I am working at doing on a daily basis, not always successfully. (see yesterday Grin), but I am trying to make it a daily focus.

Right, off to do something else on my list for the day.
Have a good one BB's, and sorry for the ramble!!

venusandmarshmallow · 09/01/2011 11:39

spam well done - it would have been so easy to give in, keep going like that and remember that you can do it, and that it feels good. I used to have lots of rules too, but that only made it easier to have 'exception clauses', for example - never drinking during the day unless it was my birthday, Christmas, my anniversary, valentine's day, mother's day, dh's birthday, my dd's 21st, ...... (you can see how it went). I became vey adept at finding a reason for today to be an exception to the rule.

JWN glad you are feeling a little better. Now I can guess that you are the type of person who wil want to get straight back into the thick of things, socialy and at work, and sorting out all the outstanding things in the house. Please, please take it very, very gently over the next weeks - really give yourself the same length of time to recover as the period for which you were ill. No soirees, no rushing around to meetings. I know it will be tempting for you, and you will want to get your business back up to full swing, but the investment of a couple of weeks of proper recouperation now will be the best things for you. Lots of tasty simple food, gentle little walks, relaxing pampering treatments, reading books.

jesuswhatnext · 09/01/2011 12:21

venus - you know me too well! Grin, this morning im now up dressed, make-up on, house hoovered and dusted and a cake in the oven (im now exhausted and shaking and i feel sick, and dh is saying 'i told you so' in a really annoying voice! Grin)

venusandmarshmallow · 09/01/2011 12:49

Hmm (puts on stern, concerned mother voice), you should probably have attempted one of those things only, most likey getting dressed, then after a rest you should perhaps have attempted another one this afternoon - possibly putting your make up on (if that makes you feel better).

Some one else can hoover and dust, or at the very worst, you could just leave it. And your dh could go out and buy you a cake.

I am being really serious here. Flu is a serious illness and you must look after yourself and recouperate properly. Taking you away to a sanatorium in the swiss mountains would probably be a good idea Grin

thursomuchtolookforwardto · 09/01/2011 13:00

Hello ladies, and Milflaw if you get time to look Smile

Crikey, I am close to tears after reading the latest posts. I logged off early yesterday, and have been truly humbled by what I have read here today.

So much honesty and support for each other, it's wonderful.

I stumbled on another mumnet thread the other day, can't think why, as I don't post anywhere else, but, I was struck by what a very gentle lot we are in our postings, never strident or unkind, and I was so grateful, and feel so lucky to have found you all.

Right, just need a group hug, and I'll seem like a right wet Grin

I didn't drink last night, I found it very hard, as I really wanted a glass of wine at about 6, and thought that I deserved it after a hard week, and worrying about dh, etc, etc. I managed to drink about 2 litres of fizzy apple/backberry and lime/lemon water, which shows you how tempted I was. I just had to keep drinking something else all the time for about two hours Blush.

I am sure that after 6 weeks I had stopped even thinking about having a drink, in the evening, so I have just got to try to back to that.

Big Grin welcome to all the babes who are newer than me, and mucho hugs, peace and happy days to all.
xx

dementedma · 09/01/2011 14:54

hey Thurso, group hug right backatcha.
must dash, meatball crisis......

Rubyredlips · 09/01/2011 15:47

Thurso well done on the not drinking. I bet you were well hydrated after all that liquid Grin.
I've been drinking loads of water and constantly weeing (poss too much info).

I keep feeling really down and trying my best to keep positive. I seem to spend a lot of time dwelling on things and have a little voice in my head telling me I'm rubbish. Think that's why I started drinking in the first place - it stopped me thinking.
Sorry to be negative but I just needed to let that out. Being truly honest with myself.

Zanywany · 09/01/2011 17:12

Hi everyone

I feel like shit today. Drank far far too much last night. Annoyes that I even went out as I didn't want to but my friend pushed me into it, wish I hadn't as he spent most of the evening topping up my glass (yes I know I could have nit drunk it). Have slept and wasted most of the day and I am just so sick of doing it. Made a fool of myself and even though nothing happened at all my friend seems to think I'm his girlfriend. Off to pick thr DC's up now but just wish I could hybernate or alternatively enmigrate
:-(

GnomeDePlume · 09/01/2011 17:36

Hi Zany - I'm sorry you are feeling down today. Forget yesterday, it's done and gone. Look after yourself today with plenty of fluids. I hope you have a good evening and have a better day tomorrow.

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