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Is my marriage over or am I being a fishwife?

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myotherusername · 14/12/2010 20:20

Regular MNer here, but namechanged for this. I'm at my wits end with my marriage and need some help getting some perspective on the situation. I'm not sure whether it's over and I'm in denial or whether this is normal and I need to get a grip.

We have been married 6yrs, have one DC and I'm 33 weeks PG.

The bad stuff:

  • DH never pulls his weight around the house, despite us having numerous talks. e.g. I am currently ill with flu, massively PG, working full time and because I've felt so rotten this week the housework has slipped. Instead of doing more to keep the house going, DH has done far less than the v little he usually does and now the place is almost unlivable. When I ever mention housework he acts like a bratty teenager.
  • I have asked him to read the Ina May book before we have our second DC. We are both keen to avoid the nightmare scenario of DD's birth and he said he would read it. Months later it remains unread and he now tells me he doesn't need to read it.
  • He doesn't respect my views on parenting DD. I am constantly having to remind him to be consistent with her. He isn't, so she throws tantrums all the time then gets stressed and impatient with her and with me. It's horrible.
  • I feel ignored a lot of the time. But then so does he I reckon. He watches TV while I hide behind my computer and work.
  • We have no sex life to speak of. How we managed to conceive two children I will never know. Once a month is our average. Has been for years. I don't feel like sex because I spend so much time annoyed with him, but then he doesn't initiate either.
  • I am working my arse off, up until my due date, and not planning to take much mat leave so we can afford to pay our bills and live comfortably. Meanwhile he spends £180 on a case of wine for his parents, £250 on a new suitcase for a two day work trip, and has declared that he is getting a new bespoke suit for Christmas. I'm counting the pennies and panicking about how quickly I can get back to work after having DC2.
  • About twice a year he goes completely off the rails while out with mates/work colleagues, gets hugely drunk and becomes incommunicado. He last did this when I was 20 weeks PG and had no idea he had plans to go out. He did apologise afterwards, but then a week later disappeared again mid-afternoon drinking with a 'client' and got all arsey when I was worried about his whereabouts.
  • I feel like a burden and an imposition in our relationship always having to ask him to do stuff or ask for a lift to the station when he's working from home and it would really be no bother. Not sure why. I just feel like I'm a pain in his arse a lot of the time.

The good stuff:

  • He is an equal parent to DD. It's genuinely 50:50. And he is the one who gets up with her at 6am every day so I can get another 1/2 hr in bed.
  • He tells me he loves me all the time and it feels genuine (even if it doesn't feel like it)
  • We are very affectionate to each other, despite lack of sex.
  • He cooks most of our meals and takes sole care of our pets.
  • When asked, he will do jobs around the house, but it's so exhausting always being the one to point out the house needs vacuuming or a lightbulb needs changing.

I've run out of patience, again, with our relationship. I feel like we're going round in circles. Is this normal relationship gripes or something more serious?

OP posts:
FanjoKazooie · 15/12/2010 20:48

myotherusername it sounds to me as though the main problem here is communication. Sounds like you have both got embroiled in a tedious place where you just end up bickering / nagging about housework / money / childcare type stuff and so have lost the ability to just enjoy being with each other and have some fun. I don't think this is the end of the world, just a very typical place where a lot of marriages end up when pregnant or with young kids.

Your 'good stuff' list makes it sound as though he does pull his weight in the areas that matter.

My DH sounds similar in a lot of ways, he would be happy to live in a pigsty, he just doesn't care whether the house is tidy or not. It's in no way a reflection that he thinks that I should do all the cleaning. He just doesn't think! If I ask him specifically to do a job, he will do it. Yes it's annoying to have to ask in this way, but so typical of most marriages I know.

The money thing, it often happens that one person is more sensible / uptight about money than the other person and this can cause friction. Again, you need to have a proper talk about this, rather than just 'nagging' which gets you nowhere (other than him clamming up and you both feeling utterly resentful).

The getting drunk and disappearing thing is the only thing that I think sounds really unacceptable. What exactly is he doing? Does he literally disappear for a few days, or is it more like a few hours?

My advice would be keep talking in a calm rather than naggy way. Do actually listen to him as well. And really try to spend some time together without your DC and away from all the crappy housework. Just try and have some fun.

MerryMarigold · 15/12/2010 22:21

OK, AF. Peace, peace Smile

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 15/12/2010 22:31

and good will to all men (and women) Xmas Smile

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 15/12/2010 22:31

have a mince pie ?

MerryMarigold · 15/12/2010 22:31

people? Xmas Wink

MerryMarigold · 15/12/2010 22:32

Thanks. I'll have some mulled wine too...

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 15/12/2010 22:32

all people who are not dickheads, who also like mince pies

because people who don't like mince pies are not normal

AliBellandthe40jingles · 15/12/2010 22:46

OP - I'm not going to comment in general because you've had some really good advice which you seem to be taking on board so there's not much more to be said.

Just on the spending thing. DH and I have a joint account which covers all the bills, food, meals out, things for DS, things for the house, etc etc. We also each have our own account with what we call our 'spending money'. Same amount each and we can do what we like with it. So I can't get huffy about him buying endless bits for his car, and he can't complain about how much I spend on footwear :)
Seriously though, it works very well for us and actually it probably stops us spending so much because rather than looking at a big pot of money and thinking 'oh I'll buy xyz', it is a much smaller pot and so extravagant purchases feel even more so. Does that make any sense?

Really hope you can work things out, it does sound like you both want to which can only be a good thing.

toadinabathingsuit · 15/12/2010 23:27

"Myother" sorry it's taken me so long to respond. I'd like to respond properly, but am knackered, I will try to post properly tomorrow. For the time being, re. counselling, I've only been to a couple of sessions. It's been nice to offload the stuff on my mind, but it's depression/CBT based counselling, so although I may be trained in my responses to situations, I don't think it's going to fill the big black void in the middle of my relationship; although I hope to god my ability to cope with it will improve. My counsellor suggested yesterday my H come to one of my sessions and hear me out since I find it so hard to talk to H and we never have any time without kids/cores/work taking priority. I guess Relate counselling could help our communication problems. However, I don't want him at my counselling, it's the one place I have to go where I'm free of him and the children. That's a sad indictment on my life, my counselling session is the highlight of my week.

I wish I had something positive to say to you,

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