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Using DD to emotionally blackmail me

55 replies

Yika · 05/12/2010 22:46

I have a 2 month old daughter. The father dumped me at 8 months pregnant (had been cheating on me; left me for the other woman). He threatened to have nothing to do with the baby unless I let him be present at the birth. In the face of much good advice I went along with it. Why? Because I wanted my daughter to have a father, and probably also because I secretly harboured hopes of getting back together (!!! no comment).

Fast forward two months, and I see that (as I was warned) if you give in to blackmail once it comes back to bite you. After a 'honeymoon' period after the birth when we got along really well, things have soured and he's again threatening to have nothing further to do with our daughter.

The issue this time: he wants me to change the baby's registered address (I live in Belgium, where you need to be registered with the local authorities) from my place to his. The reason: so that he can claim a child tax credit (I'm not eligible myself because I don't pay Belgian tax, so I wouldn't be giving up any financial advantage).

I object, for various reasons (1. seems dishonest to claim for a child that he doesn't actually maintain or support; 2. makes me feel insecure to have my baby registered as living somewhere other than my home; 3. it may create an additional administrative burden for me).

On top of generally feeling uncomfortable about the idea, I don't feel much inclination to do him a financial favour because (a) he pays no child support and has no intention of doing so. I don't intend to ask him either (this was understood from the start). (b) He has not paid for or helped me get any stuff for her, bar a few items of clothing. (c) He has not helped in any practical way. He occasionally comes to visit, but does not offer to do anything like shop, cook.

Is there any way I can deal with this situation without getting into an open conflict with him? If at all possible I would like to maintain a civil relationship with him for the sake of our DD and future co-parenting relationship. He can be vindictive and I am afraid of the consequences if things get ugly. Urgh! I wish I had not got him to put his name on the birth certificate...

Should I even give in? He says I am making a big deal out of a purely administrative matter. He only wants to change the address until January (new tax year), and could simply change it back thereafter.

He is giving me orders about it: 'I expect this to be done by next week' and will not even buy DD a Christmas present until it's done...

I think he could well make good his threat, because this is the way things are done in his family. He has had no contact with either of his parents for many years.

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dignified · 05/12/2010 22:48

I think hes horribly abusive and your dd will be far better off without him in her life.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 05/12/2010 22:49

for the sake of all that is womankind, please do not succumb to any more such appalling emotional blackmail

FGS woman, learn your lesson won't you. Have the courage of your convictions.

If he decided to cut contact with your DD after you rightfully dismiss his utterly gutter-level demands, then that is purely his own choice

Now, no more nonsense !

MinkyBorage · 05/12/2010 22:52

Under NO circumstances should you do this. It is insane for you to be even comtemplating it. Is there any way you could avoid him until the deadline has passed.

Youd dd does not need a christmas present, and imagine how damaging it will be for her top have this man in her life. If he's using her to manipulate you now, imagine how much more he'll do it when she can talk or understand anythign.

Move house and don't let him find out wher you are

Hassledge · 05/12/2010 22:52

Please don't do it. Walk away, as far as you can. Just keep saying no until he gets the message. Your DD won't notice a Christmas present, FFS.

Hassledge · 05/12/2010 22:53

Are you from Belgium? Is there anywhere else - another country - you could move to? You need to be out of there.

mamas12 · 05/12/2010 22:54

oh poor you what a horrible way to be treated,he is really being a controlling twat.
Your objections are completely valid and there is no way you have to 'obey' him at all.
Can you get some rl support where you are at all.
Are you able to move closer to your family?
He can order all he likes but don't do it!

CarGirl · 05/12/2010 22:55

So if you are not a Belgian resident do you really want to be stuck there forever?

The more contact he has, the more he pays, where she is registered as residing could all give him parental responsibility and stop you ever leaving............

3littlefrogs · 05/12/2010 22:55

His manipulative behaviour and emotional blackmail is not something your daughter will benefit from having in her life.

I agree that you should walk away. As fast as possible. If you give in you will have YEARS of this.

hairyfairylights · 05/12/2010 23:05

Don't do it. Don't help him committ fraud. Don't let him blackmail you!

Yika · 05/12/2010 23:19

Thanks, glad you all feel the same way, just needed your support. :D I feel an idiot for letting things get this far. Never mind, I shall cut my losses. Would love my little girl to have a nice dad and proper family but I will do my best for her myself.

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Yika · 05/12/2010 23:20

PS I'm not from Belgium but I intend to stay for professional reasons. But will be moving house soon I hope.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 05/12/2010 23:21

You can give her one of those things yourself...a proper family, but just the two of you

a nice dad ? well that is down to him, and he fails spectacularly, IMO

enuffalready · 05/12/2010 23:22

Hi! I posted on your last thread, hoping that you wouldn't allow him to blackmail you. But never mind. Just wanted to point out that if you do this, and change your DD's registered address, won't that technically be giving him custody?

On official documentation that would be saying your DD lives with him. For that possibility alone, I'd say you shouldn't even THINK about doing it.

Sorry if that's worried you, but I think you should be very careful about this horrible man's true motives.

Good luck, & remember that your DD already has the best present she'll ever need - a mother who loves her.

X

dittany · 05/12/2010 23:23

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Yika · 05/12/2010 23:28

enuffalready - how right you were. I couldn't let go of the ideal of two parents, and for some extraordinary reason was still half in love with him. No longer.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 05/12/2010 23:29

I am glad you have seen the light.

never too late to get on the right track, and now you are.

Well done for standing up to him x

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StuffingGoldBrass · 05/12/2010 23:40

Tell this tosser to go fuck himself and cut all contact. He is not at all a good person to be in your DD's life or in yours.

enuffalready · 05/12/2010 23:48

Yika, I know exactly how you felt. There was so much pressure on me to be 'nice' and 'understanding' towards my Ex at the time because it was better than being a single mother. Took all my strength to ignore people - including my parents.

And my Ex wasn't even abusive or hadn't cheated on me or demanded a paternity test, like yours did. You know it worked out for my Ex & I in that we got back together/got married but that's only because DH showed from day 1 that DS was his number 1 priority.

I'm so sorry that things didn't work out for you, but you know being a lone parent isn't so bad & it's much better than growing up with an abuser as a parent.

Seabright · 05/12/2010 23:52

You were the bigger person (in more ways than one!) when you agreed he could be present at the birth, and I congratulate on being able to do that for your daughter, after what he'd done to you.

But, if you aren't a Belgian citizen you may not know all the ins and out of the local tax/family/residency laws and you may be giving up more than you realise, if you agree to this, so I'd say no.

Are his parents involved with your daughter at all? If so, and you get on with them well, there is no reason they can't be part of your daughter's family, even if her father chooses not to be.

Anniegetyourgun · 06/12/2010 10:05

Just Say No! She's only two months old, she won't miss him one bit. If he refuses to see her he is the one who's losing out.

Duna · 06/12/2010 12:01

FGS! Please do not even consider changing DDs registered address

It is not just administrative, it would mean your DD would be considered as living with him by the authorities and as other posters have said this could have serious impacts on future custody arrangements. He's a nasty piece of work- how do you know he's not doing this on purpose with that in mind? You would also be committing fraud for him - do you really want to take that risk?

The only way you can maintain a 'civil' relationship with this twat is to allow him to manipulate and blackmail you...get away from him, he sounds seriously unhinged.

Anniegetyourgun · 06/12/2010 12:05
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