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(d)h threatened to hit me

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itstimmy · 10/10/2010 08:52

Yes I provoked him.

When we met he said he had threatened to hit a gf before. And he said if another lady talked to him in a provoking way he would hit her, as apparently 'women who provoke secretly want to be hit'.

There have been lots of small things over the last 7 years I have wanted to speak to him about, I have, to no avail, he will just cut me off with a threatening look or sarcasum. And there have been a number of big things over the years I have had to keep a lid on when really I wanted to go ballistic with him. This has led to me simmering with resentment and anger at him, I just want to speak out and be heard and for him to actually take some action...but I dare not for this threat.

So yesterday it was a minor incident, I have been 'needling' him about it and making a few snippy comments, and in front of dd which I'm not proud of but I can hardly tell her not to do something when her dad is...it needs both of them to stop and have spoken to both indvidually about it. And I made one last comment yesterday, I was just incredibly pissed off but could not tell him how annoyed I was due to constant threat so made a pointed 'look what has happened, don't do it to the next one' comment and he got up from table and went to other room.

About 15 min later he comes to room where I'm folding clothes and warns me that I nearly got hit. To stop provoking him or I will get hit. He was not threatening me or trying to bully me he was warning me. And that it would hurt (said that a few times) and we have two small children in the house and that he did not want to hit me but I was provoking him into it. He was v scary, as he rarely makes eye contact and he did yesterday. First I tried to put on a I'm not scared leave me alone look but he told me I was provoking him, so I told him in a calmer (upset way, I was scared) why I had done it and it was wrong to have provoked but I had done it because he has been ignoring what I've been saying and I just want him to listen to me. In the end after a few more 'warnings' I asked him to leave, so (cursing myself now) I left the room and went to bathroom (door shut) so quietly cry my heart out, then when he went out drinking last night to do it again. He has left house again for an hour now and I just want to cry again. When he's in room I just start meaningless things like stirring porridge, feel a bit shakey.

I don't know what to do now. Does this mean after 7 years he is going to start to hit me? What will count as 'provoking'? Will going out all the time be provoking as I don't want to be in the same room as him. There have been a number of incidents over the years that have made me want to leave but I think this could take the biscuit.

On another note I don't think he loves or cares for me which is probably also where the provoking comes from...

I feel humiliated and scared. Wish I could threaten to smack him one...but even if I had the advantage I would not.

I know I can be a martyr and annoying but what the hell do I do now? I cannot move on without him actually taking responsibility for his actions in the house without getting so wound up he won't listen to me and then I get wound up and want to vent but can't.

What a mess.

He's back shortly so if I go quiet its for a reason.

And I married him because he reminded me of abusive dad...

Just rechecked this...I think I can see why he wants to hit me...but I just want him to LISTEN. And the provocation is down to that...you know where you just want to go "AAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! DON'T DO THAT!!!!' and then whatever it is gets blown over, no big row, just a quick vent...imagine keeping a lid on that for 7 years...and there have been some whoppers where I wanted to just go completely wild and walk out that I've had to keep a lid on. Am excusing my behaviour now...how the hell do I get him to listen...thanks for reading so far...

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amberlight · 11/10/2010 13:57

Sometimes they pretend to want to be cured and go to "counselling" or "anger management therapy". Often they actually go down the pub or out with mates, but they pretend to go.

Or they go twice, and come home saying "Hey, the counsellor agrees you're the one to blame". Which of course they didn't say at all.

There are specialist Relate counsellors for domestic violence, it's true, but often abusive partners control and dominate any such session. Who would say what they really feel with the person who's threatened to hit them sitting right next to them?

And anger management classes accidentally teach deliberately angry people how to really really use anger effectively.

A proper abusive-partner programme can have some effect. The DV charities know of good ones. But it's not often a solution. A man who thinks women deserve to be beaten, afraid or raped isn't going to turn into an angel after a bit of a chat, so it needs to be hugely challenging for them.

CakeCuresAll · 11/10/2010 14:03

Good luck timmy.

You are doing an amazing strong thing which your daughters will most certainly thank you for one day.

It might be hard but it will always be worth it - just try and remember this. You cannot allow this cycle to continue and for your girls to one day be standing where you are now.

Keep faith in your decision - it is absolutely the right one.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:24

back

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:26

shit tried to speak to banking phone linne and only have 2 statements, can't answer their questions, they cannot give me the monney and have 5k limit

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HeadlessLadyBiscuit · 11/10/2010 14:27

What are their questions? Can we help?

Have only just seen this thread - am waving flags too. You are a very brave woman

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:27

spoken to local dv, they have given advice, i reeally need that monney. we are at friends house, just trying to sort out everything, dare not ring bank again in case i lock myself out permanently

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:28

about latest things out of our account...loads of flipping things!!!

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HeadlessLadyBiscuit · 11/10/2010 14:31

But it's a joint account so it's your money by rights. Is there a branch you can go into where you can prove your identity? Can you tell them the names of your utility companies or how much your mortgage/rent payments are? Anything to demonstrate that you are really are the account holder?

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 14:31

What questions do they need you to answer?

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 14:31

Can you get to the bank to talk to them in person?

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:32

about latest things out of our account...loads of flipping things!!!

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:32

found receipt from last night, should i ring againn?

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:32

cant believe i have done this

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 14:33

just going to ring free solicitor

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 14:33

DO you know any direct debits? Any amounts?

If you can get to the bank, they'll be able to verify your identity if you're there in person.

Suda · 11/10/2010 14:38

Go in person - with ID they can give you their branch limit over the counter - then arrange to draw out rest tomo they will have it ready - just remember if you cant get at it all in one go neither can your H. Do what you can get out from cash machines and what you acan do over the phone and go in in person. It is equally your money all of it - its really who gets to it first with a joint account

Suda · 11/10/2010 14:39

looks round nervously for pedants

("go in in person" Blush)

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 11/10/2010 14:40

Hey you're doing amazingly. Phone banking is a massive pain. Face to face much better, esp if you have drivers licence and proo of address (pre move of course).

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 14:40

Keep strong timmy you're doing brilliantly!

nickelbabe · 11/10/2010 15:00

Yes, go into a branch of your bank.
Transfer as much money between accounts as you can (provided they're both at the same bank)

If you have extra ID, eg driving licence (if you found it!) or utilities bills etc, you can prove you're you.

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 15:13

bingo have 5k

will it benefit me more to have lots of moey i savigs or nonne re solicitors and income support annd free advice?

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 15:15

i'm brickinng it. cann't you tell.

told dd1 we might be back tomorrow talkingn to wa she suggested it might take longer. he has always had dd's best interests at heart i thought to maybbe sooner to minimise distress

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eastendmummy · 11/10/2010 15:21

Just seen this. Well done Timmy you are an incredibly strong woman. Hold onto your dds tight and promise them and yourself that you will never look back. Good luck x

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 15:34

financially what should i do? inncome support or 50k in bank?

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 15:35

Brilliant! You are safe, your DDs are safe and you have some funds to survive on.

The next few days will be so hard, but will be worth it.

How long can you stay with your friend?

Did you tell the school?

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