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My partner bugged our home...how weird is this?

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spiritedaway · 05/10/2010 11:02

Hello. This is my 1st timeBlush so apolgies in advance. I have recently split with my partner of 4 years. He had, during our relationship, hacked my ex's email, hacked my facebook then most recently, while employed on a government contract, abused his extremely well paid position to access text messages from old phones of mine going back 4 years. He also read replies and some of my family's texts, which had piqued his interest.

He then began a cycle of interrogation, accusations followed by episodes of being completely loved and up and wanting his feelings reciprocated. He become increasingly paranoid. He stopped working and "accompanied" me wherever I went. He also demanded to know what and with whom i discussed my personal life...ie. brothers, cousin and objected to this. He knew from reading my texts that i had discussed him being abusive towards me in the past. He had also discovered through reading old texts of mine that at the very beginning of our relationship I had, on several occasions been back with an ex...till I got my head out of my arse and moved on to commit with my new partner and then start a family. At the start of our relationship my new partner had made all the running, full on flowers, gifts turning up unanounced everywhere i went and he wanted instant commitment. In hindsight this is what had me running for cover at the start!

Ok, so i can see he could be hurt by this but as far as I was concerned time had moved on. We'd changed cities, settled down...had a child together, co parented my other 2 and were expecting again. Good income, nice house...future's bright. I honestly explained the circumstances of how confused i'd felt at the beginning. He, however, seemed unconcerned with my feelings, explanations or emotions and instead began obsessing about who knew, who had known...exactly what sexual intimacies had occured when and where and i mean specifics that i could not recall. He could of course having recently read the 4year old texts. When i couldn't recall a specific detail or made a chronological error whilst being questioned i would be branded a liar.

This questioning then extended to even furthur back into the past...20 years back. I'm 40. No answers were ever sufficient. I was a proven liar. He was trying to give me a break but really how could he...everything i said was a lie!He wanted me to come up with 1 big confession...something from my past that he didn't know. This would help repair his trust. This is what he said...he forced these discussions day and night. If i refused he'd say i had something to hide. If i walked away he'd come with me.

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spiritedaway · 08/10/2010 19:19

The police are the ones who discovered it was bugged and told me. They had set up the incident desk here in my home and it became clear to them through communication with him that he could hear them And really, what makes you so sure that sms etc is not being stored and collated. I think time will tell that it is. In order for him to pass security clearance checks were carried out involving myself and people in his family so from that aspect he wasn't bullshitting.

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spiritedaway · 08/10/2010 19:23

Anyway...whether he did have access or didn't, is largely irrelevant. Doesn't really make any difference to present circumstances except one scenario would make him some accomplished clever manipulator and myself a naive simpleton, which i don't think is the case.

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ItsGraceAgain · 08/10/2010 19:26

You're right, it is largely irrelevant. Why didn't the police de-bug your house? Also, have you logged into your router's CP and blocked access to everything but your laptop?

ItsGraceAgain · 08/10/2010 19:31

Further tips: Get a new mobile in case your current one is using hidden mic software. Disconnect the house phone at the line entry point if you want to have private conversations - and don't have them anywhere near the entry point. There is a widget that can transmit using the electric wires, so if privacy were ever crucial you'd need to disconnect the power as well (easier to leave the house, and take the batteries out of all mobiles before you talk).

Many of your posts seem quite defensive of him. I'm not quite sure why they sound that way to me.

spiritedaway · 08/10/2010 19:36

They did debug...wasn't spyware. Just stuff he had, always loads of gadgets around. It was a wii webcam and a sing star microphone and something stuck in PS3 set up to bluetooth stuff to his pc then it uploaded straight online so he could access it. All passwords were deleted every 5 mins so police techie blokes couldn't get it when they found it. Is that illegal do you think? No.. i don't know how to log into router's CP...should i call my service provider? See, the embarrassing truth is...I am a simpleton Blush

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loopyloops · 08/10/2010 19:37

From the viewpoint of your daughter:

I want mummy to be herself, and not be scared any more
I don't want daddy to hurt mummy or to be nasty to her
I'm scared that daddy might take me away from mummy
I'm scared that daddy might hurt mummy
I'm scared that daddy might hurt me
I'm scared that daddy doesn't seem to know what he's doing a lot of the time
I don't feel safe when I'm alone with daddy
Mummy is a very good mummy and can keep me safe
I like being with mummy and my other brothers and sisters

Don't allow this man unsupervised access. It is not fair to your daughter.

Don't engage with him unless through proper channels again.

Make no mistakes, he is seriously unhinged and dangerous. He has already kidnapped your child, bugged your home and been violent towards you. Keep your children safe, they have to be your priority. If you allow unsupervised access, or allow him to manipulate you again you are failing your children. If you manage to keep away from him and only allow supervised access (if at all) you are protecting your children. Never mind him. Yes, he is ill, but that is not your problem.

ItsGraceAgain · 08/10/2010 19:42

Lol. Yep, if you ring them they'll tell you how to login and reset its password. You can do this yourself on most setups quite easily but some, eg Sky's Netgear, lock themselves after the password's been set. You can ring them, get instructions and a new router if necessary. Come to think of it, you could probably tell them your current one's broken & they'll send you a new one.

The bugs you've described sound more like a control-freak geek, tbh, than a professional spy. Spy shops sell better stuff than that Wink

ItsGraceAgain · 08/10/2010 19:54

If your kids use the playstation & wii, they'll need router access too. If the police left spyware in there, you should get new ones I'm afraid. If it was just the webcam, the singstar and a bit of bluetooth then you can fix that by disconnecting his PC and removing the bluetooth gadget from the PS3.

Wii & PS3 are very sophisticated kit, though, they can do stacks of things. The Wii really doesn't need to be connected to the internet. The PS3 does if they play network games - you can program the router to allow ONLY the games, however this is not an everyday requirement so you'd need the customer service people to help you.

whomovedmychocolate · 08/10/2010 19:56

Hmm Biscuit

spiritedaway · 08/10/2010 19:58

Thanks...you know your stuff... I think people must use spywear alot, do you think? There is a lot of it available like you say. And i don't know why i sound defensive...probably cos i do feel sorry for him because of some personality defect of my own. I will and am putting the children 1st. I think his stuff really became quite normalised to me although i kept thinking i'd have to leave "one day." Think it's definately harder as you get older though. Should be the opposite really. Ta for techie advice.

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ItsGraceAgain · 08/10/2010 19:58

It is against the law, btw.

spiritedaway · 08/10/2010 19:59

Ignore the biccie!

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ItsGraceAgain · 08/10/2010 20:00

KK :) Yes, it sounds as though some counselling might be in order, to help you get some healthy boundaries.

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