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Not sure if I'm being stupid about this - but dating and manly men

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navyeyelasH · 09/08/2010 20:53

Ok, when out on a date I usually expect the guy to get the first round in. I went on a date last week and I ended up getting in the first round and second, he got third.

Because of that I don't want to go out with the guy again, even though as far as first dates go it was ok.

I just want my men to be men, but not too manly, like farting and burping in public. God, what is wrong with me! AIBU?!

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Remotew · 10/08/2010 15:52

Well I see you've made your mind up but he has left the ball in your court in case you change it.

I would find it annoying too and definitely wouldn't see him again unless I really, really fancied him and enjoyed his company. Then I would give it another go and make sure I had plenty of money on me Grin.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 10/08/2010 15:59

Bahahaha! Loving his text message! Grin What a nobber.

warthog · 10/08/2010 16:13

text him on friday: 'oh god, i made such a big mistake - you're the hottest man i've ever been out with. please please please go out with me again.' and then block his number.

navyeyelasH · 10/08/2010 16:17

" You say you don't expect anything, but you then say you expect him to pay 50% "at a bare minimum "

I said " at the bare minimum though I would like it if " things were equal. If a guy had a really good reason why they couldn't pay their own way and some other redeeming qualities then fair enough. That wasn't the case I felt in this instance. If a woman expected a man to pay for everything 100% of the time I would equally have something to say about that.

" men can't usually expect that from a woman " any feminists here will flame me for this (I think?) but for me to be attracted to a man there does need to be an element of "I'll provide for you" going on. Call in hard wiring, call it female selfishness,call it Chivalry, call it needyness, call it sexism - whatever; it's a quality I like in a man! Biscuit I don't know many men who like this quality in a woman?

warthog mwwwuhahahahaha I like your style [evil]

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ineedabodytransplant · 10/08/2010 16:45

Maybe it's because I am an old f**t (53) but I have always found it difficult to have a lady(or not even if she's a lady..lol)buy me a drink.

I am no wimp but I always open doors for women, walk on the outside of the pavement,treat them with respect. Always 'ladies first'

I would feel uncomfortable if one of my friends treated a lady like that.

Probably just me, but wouldn't feel right.

Minxie1977 · 10/08/2010 18:00

Please text hi fri - but just with 'TWUNT' Grin

dogfish · 10/08/2010 19:57

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TiggyD · 10/08/2010 20:07

It's a questions of sharing and taking turns rather than being manly. He should have bought the second round. If he's like that when he's on his best behaviour what will he be like when he lets himself go?

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franklampoon · 10/08/2010 20:59

I would be put off by anyone who did not take turns to buy drinks. I stopped seeing a friend because I paid for everything every time. SHe was an otherwise lovely person

Th last straw was when when we had lunch together once and she just got up and left with no mention of the bill, leaving me to pay

2rebecca · 10/08/2010 21:11

It would put me off. I'd be surprised he didn't get the first round, and to be honest would probably say something if I got the second round, different if I was drinking faster than him and he hadn't got round to thinking about drinks yet, although even then when I suggested another drink I'd expect him to say "no, it's my round" and ask me what I'm having.

I have also not seen a bloke again who refused to let me pay for anything as I find that controlling and sexist, but in that case I did tell him I wasn't happy not paying my way and he basically ignored my unhappiness and came out with some "when women are with me they don't pay" sexist tripe which gave me the message he didn't give a monkeys about me in particular.

HerBeatitude · 10/08/2010 22:06

ROFL at his big opinion of himself.

Perhaps he has the most enormous wanger in the history of the universe and you are going to miss out on it big time? Or a six inch tongue?

Better get yourself a loan and text him pronto!

Grin
Gay40 · 10/08/2010 22:11

Nice to see the Pankhursts chained themselves to railings in vain.

HerBeatitude · 10/08/2010 22:13

WTF have the pankhursts got to do with a mean, bad mannered and big headed date?

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 10/08/2010 22:36

I'm not sure the Pankhursts had a policy on who buys the rounds. Confused

HerBeatitude · 10/08/2010 22:41

Yeah they should probably stand up on trains when they're pregnant, too.

Pah

navyeyelasH · 10/08/2010 23:03

dogfish "True, Navy. Men do not usually expect financial benefits from a woman. Would you respect a man who did? Should a man respect you, if you do from him? "

I would not respect a man who lived off a woman, his dad, the state (without good reason). I do not respect leeches; end of. And nor do I think a man should respect a woman who is a leech in any capacity.

Are we really comparing an, at best, £3 glass of wine, to "financial benefit"? My idea of dating is that men get to spend an evening with a pleasant woman (or man etc), in return they buy each other a drink or drinks, if they eat they split the bill 50/50 and leave a shared tip.

Is that really such an outlandish expectation? I don't understand why you are attempting to make me feel bad for expecting a drink after having bought 2. I buy near strangers (ie. people I have just met who are friends of friends) drinks, and yes at some point I do expect to have a drink or the offer of a drink in return. I am not a mug or a cash point - I am sorry you're not happy about this Confused.

Gay40 I guess someone had to say it at some point. Are you saying because of feminism women have to put up with bull shit, mean, rude and impolite men? Sorry I don't buy it. Or are you saying because of feminism I'm not allowed to feel like a man should be able to care and provide for me?

I'm relatively young at 27 and maybe not know as much or lived as long as others on this thread. But feminism has taught me that I can easily provide for myself. But is it wrong to want the added security of a partner who will be able to pick up the pieces if the shit did hit the fan? I fully expect a man to always chose a partner who is strong, confident and able too. It has nothing to do with Emmeline Pankhurst.

HerBeatitude god, I didn't think of that! Maybe I can get him over her tomorrow Wink!

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Gay40 · 10/08/2010 23:36

No, he still sounds like a cock. I wouldn't bother with him either.

For the record, how you would you describe dating etiquette if two men went on a date?

navyeyelasH · 10/08/2010 23:45

"My idea of dating is that men get to spend an evening with a pleasant woman (or man etc), in return they buy each other a drink or drinks, if they eat they split the bill 50/50 and leave a shared tip"

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Gay40 · 11/08/2010 14:59

Precisely. So what's all this 1950s claptrap about expecting the guy to get the first round in?

navyeyelasH · 11/08/2010 18:14

"I didn't mean I expected him to get the first one - just that I expected at the least to take it in turns IYKWIM? If he had got the first, I'd have insisted on getting the second. So as I got the first I feel he should have insisted on getting the second."

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thesunshinesbrightly · 11/08/2010 18:30

Yuck! i was right he is vile, how can you tell with these men, they are like a open book.

RumourOfAHurricane · 11/08/2010 19:20

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aseriouslyblondemoment · 11/08/2010 19:30

i totally agreeSmile

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