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what would you make of this? im quite worried...

90 replies

whatisallthis · 27/07/2010 18:39

i was gunna name change but i cant be arsed!...

background... me and dp together 4 1/2 years good relationship with some rough patches relating to money.

things are good between us lately although dp i think is depressed regarding his money troubles and tough family life with his ex, kids situation, living arrangements staying at his parent's house etc.

he's been moody as hell last few weeks as he's been stressed with certain bills coming up that he cant afford. he's taking it all out on me but i have pretty much let him and kept my mouth shut as i think he has some depression and i dont want to make it worse or drive him away.

anyway, couple of hours ago looked in dp's bag to find the phone charger. pulled out a load of unopened bills (which i expected) and amoungst these was 2 pieces of paper (freshly written as the paper was ne wlooking and not screwed up or anything-only folded over)

one piece of paper was a list 1-10 of different sexual things...
1- sleep n
2- naked bodys
3- first night
4- pure adrenalin
5- come on body
6- on top
7- behind
8- come anal
9- swall
10- CIS
7- CI Mouth

im guessing 1 = stay the night, 10 is come inside, and the second 7 is come in mouth

the second piece of paper across the top had
GE-2 ST-3 W-1 s-1 O(or D cant work it out)-1

then there was a list of 22 names. well the last one says (Braces) and one of the names says Geordie

then next to each name is all the numbers from the list that apply to them.

my name is on the list and so is his ex wife. we are the only ones with all the numbers. then the rest have between 3 and 10 numbers. a few dont have 'come inside' and they all have pure adrenalin.

the 7 names haven't been completed yet but all the rest have. i recognise only one other name as an ex girlfriend which is the girl he was with before me but none of the rest mean anything to me.

im shitting myself at what this list may mean. never in my time with him have i ever thought of him as the type to cheat and ive never thought he ever would. he's told me before he's slept with around 21-22 people in his life. but he's also told me a lot of these were at a boys holiday when he was 18 so there is no way he could remember every girls name from 18 years ago surely? and surely these women from his holiday would have been 'quickies', not women who could have forfilled all these different things.

i also know that shortly after this holiday he got with his wife. i know that he did cheat on her a few times so i know he is capable of it, i just never thought he would do it to me as we have a very sexual relationship. and there was only one woman between me and his wife who i mentioned is on the list

please tell me what you think and what you would do? i dont know weather to confront him over it yet or see if he finishes the list over the next week. i feel like i want to see if his workplace has any girls with these names. i know there are loads of girls there as its a departent store he works and a lot of young girls like what i used to be when i first met him!

he never goes out, and if he's not with me he's with his kids. so i dont know when he would have had toime to see anyone else

could i be reading into things?

OP posts:
Unlikelyamazonian · 27/07/2010 19:41

Nice list. No 'get flowers for dp' on it anywhere?

Drop him. Fast.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 27/07/2010 19:47

UA I'm inclined to agree. It has a definite ring of 'whatisallthis is one in a list of sexual conquests in my life' rather than 'I love and respect whatisallthis'.

CreepyFunbags · 27/07/2010 20:03

How creepy. Bleugh.

CaptainKirksNipples · 27/07/2010 20:19

Yuck, the boys did this at our end of year holiday aged 17-18. They gave it up when I beat them by quite a few points in the first couple of days

Their list was quite innocent though, and more of a first base, second base, full sex kind of thing. Your DP seems quite obsessed with come?!?

nigglewiggle · 27/07/2010 20:32

Do you suspect that he is not actually staying at his mum's? If so, I'd be tempted to think of an excuse to phone there later this eve and ask to speak to him.

His behaviour sounds a bit iffy to me TBH.

JuJusDad · 27/07/2010 22:53

hmm.

Yeah, bit weird to make a list. Ok, more than bit weird.

but given that he seems to be having a rough time in his head, not suprising he's doing some odd stuff here and there.

On that basis, I really wouldn't see it as anything other than an expression of the rough time your both having...

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 27/07/2010 23:16

I'd have to ask about this, I'm afraid.

And what I want to know is, how come he can't count up to 11?

GeekyGirl · 27/07/2010 23:39

Agree with Steaknife ... and don't lots of men make lists, collect things, put their CDs in alphabetical order, etc, etc? Geeky behaviour but not unusual.

atswimtwolengths · 28/07/2010 00:20

'Pure adrenaline' seems an odd one - have I missed something there?

SolidGoldBrass · 28/07/2010 01:40

I do think, actually, that you are overreacting. The list doesn;t suggest, from the info you have given (22 names on it, he said he has slept with 22 people) that he is having any new sexual partners. And everyone is entitled to a little bit of introspection and nostalgia now and again, surely. It also sounds like the 'highest scorers' are you and his XW which would suggest that the other names compare unfavourably with you.
Unless you have other reasons to suspect him of looking for sex elsewhere, then maybe you should allow him a little privacy WRT his thoughts?

franklampoon · 28/07/2010 01:46

I think you are overreacting and you should not be looking at your partner's private things

ItsGraceActually · 28/07/2010 03:13

I don't think this is a sign of cheating, either. It's a review of his sex life. Yes, it's a weird thing to do but it does tie in with everything you've mentioned about stress, etc. I've often written lists (and made Excel spreadsheets, since I'm a nerd!) of the good things in my life when I've felt down - and, yes, they've included reviews of sex partners. Not the same as his, more girly, but they would still have freaked a partner out if they'd read them.

Possibly the most urgent issue here is the stress you're both under. You might both be underestimating the toll on his state of mind. Start looking at ideas to improve your work/life balance and put some focus back on the two of you as a couple.

I'm wondering if you started that other thead about a stressed-out DH? Hope so! (Or start one now!)

It's probably a good thing you found his lists - it's an alarm call, and you're all upwards from here Good luck.

Squitten · 28/07/2010 07:16

It's not like you were snooping when you found this - you came across it honestly and if I found this in my DH's stuff, I would ask him about it!

I would have thought that a couple should be able to discuss this kind of stuff...

echt · 28/07/2010 07:25

It's a list of his past. It's private, and I really don't see what's weird about it.

Anniegetyourgun · 28/07/2010 07:53

Erm... excuse me...

"he's been moody as hell last few weeks as he's been stressed with certain bills coming up that he cant afford. he's taking it all out on me but i have pretty much let him and kept my mouth shut as i think he has some depression and i dont want to make it worse or drive him away."

Isn't this the real issue? Is taking his bad feelings out on his partner really going to make him feel better or just make her feel worse? Is it not time for a short sharp conversation on the lines of "Don't blame me for your problems, I'll support you but I won't be your doormat, and get yourself to the GP for some ADs else you won't see me for dust (and good luck finding a girl who'll go on top AND swallow next time)"?

AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 12:01

he sounds like one hell of a strange 36yo bloke

I honestly cannot fathom hy a grown man, with a family, would do this

I would have to confront him with it, if only to see what the fuck he was thinking

ReasonableDoubt · 28/07/2010 12:04

He made a list of all the women he has shagged and what he has done with them? And he is 36?

What an absolute twat!

tammybear · 28/07/2010 12:11

I agree with Anniegetyourgun. If he's stressed, he needs to find some kind of help with it whether it's counselling or some kind of outlet for it, and you shouldn't feel you have to tiptoe around him.

Though I'd be weirded out by the list if my DP had done that, as others have said, the numbers tally with the number he said. A thought I had was that perhaps it was a way for him to feel more of a man to see what he has done in the past and, dare I say it, his accomplishments sexually. Like Alibabaandthe40nappies, it sounds a bit like a list of sexual conquests but if everything seems to be out of his hands at the moment in his life, this might be his way to, I dunno, remind himself or make himself feel more of a man? IYSWIM? I dunno if that makes any sense, but just a thought I had. But as others have said, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion of cheating unless you have reasons to think otherwise?

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 28/07/2010 12:18

There's something else in your OP I want to query too. You say that you know that he's capable of cheating because he did this "a few times" to his wife, but you never thought he'd do it to you because you have a "very sexual relationship". You do know that this is no prevention to infidelity, don't you? If someone has been unfaithful before, the only reassurance I would have would be that they bitterly regretted it and took complete responsibility for those choices.

Don't tell me, he told you his wife went off sex and that was why he was unfaithful to her, so you're making sure you don't go the same way?

skidoodly · 28/07/2010 12:57

Jaysus what kind of a man could feel like "more of a man" by making a list of all the women's orifices he had ejaculated into?

A weird and creepy man I would advise any woman to stay the fuck away from, that's who.

Carbonated · 28/07/2010 13:05

I would hate to read a list like this written by my husband. Yes, it feels creepy.

But really, how different is it from thinking it in his head? It was meant to be private, just the same as the diaries written by loads of women, myself included. It wasn't meant to be read by you or anyone else.

You have a communication problem with your DP if you can't just say I'm sorry but I found this and it upset me. And if you have been snooping on his phone before too - why would you do that?

Rollergirl1 · 28/07/2010 13:27

I think the list is deffo very odd, but couldn't it be something harmless like an online sex quiz? You know the ones, scoring "how depraved you are" and the like? The "Pure Adrenalin" one is quite weird though.

I don't see this as evidence that he is/has cheated on you. But I will still show him it and ask him what the hell it is.

skidoodly · 28/07/2010 14:40

It's no different to thinking in his head.

It's an interesting window into the way he thinks about women and sex and what's inside ain't pretty.

KerryMumbles · 28/07/2010 14:42

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AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 14:44

it's a 14yo guy thing

that's what I would be thinking...

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