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living in an almost sexless marriage...9 yrs

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Nienna · 17/07/2010 10:32

Hello. I grew up thinking girls were the ones who could go off sex, or not really want it, nothing in my life prepared me for a man who prefers top watch tv in the evenings after our DC is in bed, to watch tv until midnight. or to read books, or to do work out. you name it. anything but get intimate with me, whom he suppossedly loves.
he was a virgin when we got together. a 30 year old virgin in these day and time. but we had a lot in common and i have been in so many wrong relationships i thought i found mr right.
He was always not so much into sex, but he was curious so although it was infrequent I thought that would change...we always think we change a man at the start of a relationship. I was so wrong.
he is a great friend, and very supportive, kind person. he just doesnt have interest in sex. when he got me pregnant that was a miracle, that he felt horny that day and came on to me like for the first time that year (s) without me having to arrange it. I had a hangover, so I was not driving it or asking for it as it is almost always the case.
it was very infrequent before our DC, now is RARE or not there. by infrequent I mean with luck once a month. twice a month would be a miracle. now it's twice a year on predictable days like valentines, or my bday.and also because i have ranted and argued about how neglected I feel and how it's bringing me down big time. And of course it's always me making him remember the "date" and dressing up like a slut (if I dont he doesnt get aroused at all) and setting the scene and rushing things at uni to be home, do the chores, set the mood, do the dinner and do everytihng in my power so that he doesnt feel stressed out or too tired ...either all that from me or it doesnt happen.

He has a LOT of porn mags and vids. a lot of books on sex and sexual techniques, to please a woman etc. you would think his sexual prowess is amazing. It's not. it's the most boring, lame sex in the world. No books can replace experience. and he doesnt really know how to kiss. he is half blind so he is always groping if we are in the dark, and sometimes is totLLy unflattering and a turn off...and worst of all, he has very little or zero passion. he gets tired after 5 or 10 mins....our meagre sex sessions are boring, awkward and all I end up doing is performing to satisfy my hunger for affection and closeness in my heart and try to help him feel like he is good at it to encourage him to try it more often. I am not that cruel to tell him how much he sucks at it. it would break him.

I have tried to get him to see a dr, he doesnt follow it up, after it takes me breaking down and verbally abusing him to make hiim realise this is not me over reacting, that he has a sex problem and that intimacy is what makes a couple. He doesnt thnk is that important. He could quite happily go without. I feel like I am living with a roomie. a flatmate. a good friend for whom i would do anything. everytime people remind me i am "married" or that he is my "husband" I cringe internally and feel like screaming and shouting IT'S ALL ONLY IN PAPER!!

he is agreat father, kind and patient, he works hard for us, i am finishing a degree and he supports me all the way. he never bothers me with anything. but hates it when i have a complaint about how he handles something. even if i put it nicely, at the right time,like he has asked me to, with kind words and no aggressive body language, even so, he does not like complaints. he is disabled, and i think his parents tried to never bother him with anything and let him be, to the point that he grew up very isolated, withdrawn and was bullied at school lots bec of being disabled. he has achieved a lot in life, and there isnt anyone i would rather live with, but the lack of intimacy has killed my love for him as a man, all i can love in him is the kind father, the great friend and the admirable human being. I have never cheated on him, although I have been sooo tempted. I flirt like crazy because it's the only way i can feel liked and get some form of male attention. my self esteem in shattered and i feel so lonely. I cant see a way out and the strain this is having on me is beggining to show a lot.
if i cheat on him it will hurt so much, i want it desperatley, maybe i could hire an escort? would that be cheating too? i have tried self gratification, but a toy is no substitute for the love of your husband. husbands are supposed to want to sleep with you, hwy did i end up with a guy like this?

please forgive me for the long rant. first time i ever plucked courage to talk about this online. what can i do? he wont do counselling, he said he wont talk about his private things to a stranger. he has no close friends, and he isnt close to his family. i am his only true friend, i feel i am in an impossible position. if he knew i have told my closest grilfriends, he would die of shame. but without their caring, sound advice i would have strayed a long time ago.. they help me keep my sanity. on top of everything i have to deal with, there is this underlying my entire emotional map.

Please help me. I am in tears and very upset and I do not know what to do. please help me.

Sorry for the very long message. Would love the opinion of a man on this. Thanks for your time.

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dogfish · 03/08/2010 19:32

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secondtimer1 · 03/08/2010 19:51

Nienna, I put up with it for over 20 years - tortured myself constantly, ached with frustration and self-loathing most of the time -and sorry to say but, trust me, the kids are fully aware of the tension and your unhappiness. You will never get him to change - just as you cannot change yourself., He may be dysfunctional, he may be gay, he may be terrified of losing control - at the end of the day he is who he is, and only he can change himself. You need to do things that lifts your self-esteem and make you accept yourself as a passionate loving woman. A book that helped me was "Women who love too much" - it's about co-dependency but it helped me to understand where my motivation to keep the marriage going for so long came from.

Nienna · 03/08/2010 22:35

anyfucker,and trainsetter, you know, you are right, that was a bit off. I just thought that if he could see himself approaching a stranger, that would break his inhibitions for good, because I am known territory and sadly, someone he associates with being angry and controlling. But I can nwo see is a bad idea, it may well flip him and have the worst outcome. I am not worried about him liking someone else more than me, because he is free, and if that were to happen, it would only mean we are not mean to be together. I would never put myself between him and his happiness. I bet I sound silly, but that is how I feel. Good job your feedback is so honest and to the point, one can learn a lot here, and reconsider. Secondtimer, thanks for your advice. I have come accross this title but have not got around to buying it, i will see if i can find it cheap second hand in amazon. I am sorry you have been going through this for so long, you are truly a hero in my book. I have to give this a go, try everything there is, bec i am someone who blames herself and beats herself up about it a lot , so i need to know I honestly tried everything there is. He is back to the low mood, says he is tired. tbh i dont think he is going to follow things thrpough but he needs to be given a fair chance. if he doesnt then i will openly suggest an open relationship and if that is not good, then, well, we will have to think of living apart. It is not wrong for me to want this release, i thought it was, but it's not. for the first time in 9 years i have been with someone else, and for the 1st time whilst being with a steady partner. I have to shed this irrational fear that I am selfish and evil and that it will all fall flat on my face in the end, because he knows, i know, I am trying, have been trying very hard. You are right secontimer1, my LO knows, she asks me regularly if I am going to be angry, I say no, she needs to see me happy, and if it takes drastic measures, then so be it. But all in good time. Taking baby steps with him here, at the end of the day, if I am going to give him a chance, I should at least do it properly. there he is watching tv again, fair enough, i got work to do. Let's give time, some time. Sex training with someone else, goes out of the window. What was I thinking , he would probably be so upset he would retreat into himself for good. dogfish not really your fault if you enjoyed yourself better with someone else, these things happen . I think deep in my heart, and I have told him this, I think he'd be happier with someone else, someone calmer, less demanding, less gun ho than me. who knows...

thanks again.,

me

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loveintheafternoon · 15/09/2010 09:58

Hello,
This is my first post here on Mumsnet. I've recently started writing a blog about my experience of my own sexless relationship and came across this thread in the course of reading round. I've written a post about it as it really struck a chord. My OH wouldn't have sex with me for 4.5 years and was seeing S&M prostitutes. Totally killed me and I'm just trying to get back on my feet. It's hard.
loveintheafternoon-uk.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexless-marriages-on-mumsnet.html

Nienna - I'm giving you a big cyber hug.
xxxx
LitA

Wonderpet · 08/01/2011 19:27

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abcdefg123 · 13/05/2011 11:11

Hi, I am in a similar position - virtually sexless / physical affection-less marriage - apart from that we get on really well - he is a great dad too etc. -he has always been like this with previous partners too. Just wondering what you did in the end? did you stay or go? hope you are ok!

emrakul · 14/12/2014 01:06

i know this is old but, what happened at the end? :)

Rockwidow · 02/07/2017 15:47

Goggle 'Intimacy anorexia'. The porn is a huge barrier to intimacy with you; he has intense experiences on his own, so why should he bother with an u predictable human? If he doesn't stop the porn, there isn't much hope. Intimacy anorexia a phrased coined by an American psychologist, but it is quite illuminating.

newjobsoon · 02/07/2017 15:59

I also experienced this lack of intimacy but into porn etc. Turned out he was seeing sex workers in the afternoon/lunch for about 10 years. Didn't have a clue.
Sounds to me your dh may be doing the same or at least be aware it could be a possibility.
Everyone thinks no not my dh.

taymer · 03/07/2017 08:58

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Rockwidow · 03/07/2017 09:53

So glad, tamer

rosabug · 03/07/2017 16:07

I very much agree with it'sGraceActually about this post. I think there are some complex issues going on here and that your partner may be passive aggressive. He is actually torturing you. If he loved you he would not want to make you suffer and would work on some solutions with you.

I have been here - My partner retracted sexually from me about 6/7 years ago. It was hell and nothing I said or how I said it, made any difference and I think this will be the case with you too. You need to make some hard decisions for yourself.

Eventually I told him I was going to look elsewhere and he agreed (reluctantly) to an open relationship on my side because he couldn't give me what I wanted. I had a few experiences over a couple of years which were good but made me realise that I didn't have a 'sex shaped hole' in my life I had 'my partner' shaped hole. Anyway - He seemed less and less bothered about my activities - that's because I didn't know he had started an affair that went on 4 years - with all the lies involved.

So I thought he had problems with intimacy etc - really it seemed it was just me and/or our relationship. However, I also think he had other issues too.

Anyway - long story short - your partner isn't going to change, he isn't. You have to make a decision about your future and KNOW that you can and will thrive without him.

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