Archers thread #203: It's Affair Cop! Discuss The Archers here.

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Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

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Starting the new thread a bit early as I'm not sure I'll have much internet access for the next few days. Fill up the old one first. And then - over to you!

(Credit for the thread title goes to @TripleSulko.)

It was indeed Aunt Camilla, and I have no idea whether she was older or younger than dear Nigel. In character she was to him as Lily is to Freddie, I feel, but I don't think they were twins.

I don't recall an Uncle Piers; whose uncle? Piers was the name of Camilla's son with her husband James, born in 2002, but that would make him Nigel's nephew and a cousin to Nigel's children. Was he named after a deceased brother of Camilla and Nigel's, perhaps? I genuinely have no idea; clearly in 2002 I didn't think him of any importance except as an excuse for Nigel and Elizabeth to be rid of Julia for a bit.

Camilla Burnham (for that was her surname) was played by Patricia Hodge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Hodge
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0388092/

At least I remembered bits even if they were a bit jumbled.
It was probably just a name they liked, or that the SW thought sounded pretentious. They weren't twins.
Twins are more common now.

Stella, aged 47, seems to have no property or assets we know about. Pip, aged 33, is going (or was going) to inherit a working farm.

I'm surprised more hasn't been made of the large age gap. Though I supposed that was secondary to Pip announcing she was now gay.

Stella and Pip as a couple have never been believable to me. In fact I am on record here as saying the wedding will never happen! However I think Im wrong. It will happen but there will be An Incident with far reaching consequences.

An Incident with far reaching consequences.

I do hope so.

I'm going to be very disappointed if there isn't at least one tragic death, preferably not Freddie. It would be good if it was caused by David again, giving him a hat trick, but he'd also make a deserving victim.

Unicorn costumes for dogs are readily available on Amazon.

If Elizabeth was the least bit serious about Freddie's inheritance she'd have sat down with him and the Trust paperwork before now to look at what the Trustees say in writing. Instead she keeps secrets from him - and then blames Vince.

She has no more intention of handing over LL than Brian does of his farm.

I don't think Freddie is whining, that's the SWs bringing his character back into play because, oo-er he's 26 now and bound to have noticed he's not taking part in running LL. He's done his time, literally and metaphorically, and is being lied to and held back.

David inadvertently causing the death of Vince would be excellent. If he can take out J#y and Muck, Pip and Rosie, Paul and Linda he'd be doing a Great Thing. And Martin.

Growing up as Lily’s sibling ought to fit a chap for a role in which killing people is part of the job description. Transference, obviously, but wor Freddie should have taken to it like a duck to ducks.

The endings of the latest episodes seem to be really abrupt and incomplete…anyone else? It feels like they keep stopping in the middle of a conversation.

It's probably intended to encourage us to tune in for The Royal Wedding.

When they planned to have their wedding in England in mid October, did it not occur to Pip & Stella that the weather might be wet & windy?

sorry …came on to say Lynda but see you already got her.

Although it looks cute, I think dressing up a cat or dog is cruel. I understand a coat and little snow shoes in the winter, but any other sort of clothing on animals isn't very pet friendly to me.
Wedding is going to go smoothly.
Hope Kiera does go, it would be a total waste of time and fun if she dosnt, (a bit of sarcasm there!).

I agree with you about dressing animals in fancy costumes, and the models on the sales sites are clearly less than impressed with being decked out in planet-destroying tat, but I don't think the 'unicorn' was going to be a volunteer, and I really want the wedding to be a disaster aka triumph.

I suppose the best thing would be for Pip to be deaded just after she has irrevocably committed all her worldly goods to Stella.

No because weather isn’t really important to farmers is it?

Maybe Jill will simply blow away.

I'm a bit behind, sorry if this has been chewed over at nauseam. But one, was Freddie always this camp?

And two, I'm all in favour of someone like Freddie having a real job in fhe real world before inheriting a stately home, but if they want him to know how to run it, they will actually have to let him get involved. Transferable skills are all very well, but I don't know how much use knowing the ins and outs of an abbatoir is really going to be. (Yes, I have queued in a National Trust cafe on a bank holiday, what's your point? 😂)

but if they want him to know how to run it, they will actually have to let him get involved

Over Elizabeth's cold dead body. She really believes LL is hers and no one can run it better. Or get the chance to try.

I’m surprised they haven’t got her making the wedding cake and flapjacks for the reception

She's probably doing the catering and minding the children. And she probably made the bride and bridesmaid outfits and flowers.

What were the wedding favours - sugared stars and pips?

And we must add a deading from the younger section of Ambridge. I vote Keira, if only to not hear that whining voice again.

Temporarily altering the tone, but “Tracey Horrobin” has started a petition to urge the BBC to keep a recording studio for the Archers in Birmingham.

https://c.org/hKrrsPPKPR

Signed. Are you sure Tracy started it? Not that it matters but...