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Archers thread #191: Mulligan: stew made from odds and ends; second chance after poor shot. Both fit the bill. Discuss The Archers here.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/10/2025 22:36

Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

Archers All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed, and of course we are always delighted to welcome back former or occasional listeners/posters. We don't all agree on all points, although we do mostly try to be civil about it. Most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that like George you like your steak very well done, or other unusual views. Grin

Archers Spoilers: not on this thread, please! We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/radio_addicts/4636789-the-archers-spoilers-thread-7-cant-wait-for-702pm-join-us-here, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

Archers For newer listeners, lurkers or those who just have no idea what we're talking about, @DadDadDad has created this useful thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3557323-For-Archers-fans-a-guide-to-acronyms-on-the-long-running-discussion-threads-and-any-other-meta-thread-questions-you-may-have - BOOP point for him! (See thread for explanation.)

Mulligan mostly makes me think of John Finnemore's Souvenir Show. This is good, and tenuously connected to a recent TA storyline

Over to you!

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2025 20:02

muddyford
Well done Lilian. As PPs have said, George's involvement in shopping Markie in prison isn't a credit, merely levelling the account a little. Wish she'd rung the police and got the nasty manipulative little scrote banged up for another few years

Does anyone think George sounded tonight as if prison had reformed him at all? He was hanging about outside the pub to catch Lilian on her own and have a row with her. He is twenty, she is seventy-eight. I'd say he was guilty of threatening behaviour, if not downright assault.

ChersHeart · 19/10/2025 20:07

Does anyone think George sounded tonight as if prison had reformed him at all? I think it's made him worse.
BOOP for Lilian.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2025 20:24

muddyford
George's involvement in shopping Markie in prison isn't a credit, merely levelling the account a little.

It isn't even that really, as I meant to say but posted too early.

He did harm to Alice, Fallon, Joy and Mick.

Doing something nice for Kenton and Jolene isn't leveling the account at all, because those two are not the people he harmed in the first place.

muddyford · 19/10/2025 21:03

Fallon is Jolene's daughter so indirectly I think it could have made Fallon think he wasn't entirely bad. But tonight's performance from George has negated all that.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2025 21:14

But that isn't leveling the account; it is attempting to ingratiate himself, a quite different matter.

Bruisername · 19/10/2025 21:26

The sw have managed to make me lose interest in George. I just don’t care anymore

Buxusmortus · 19/10/2025 22:05

Bruisername · 19/10/2025 21:26

The sw have managed to make me lose interest in George. I just don’t care anymore

I feel the opposite. He's such a horrible character I'm really willing for him to get his true comeuppance, I'm sick of how he and his family bang on about him having done his time with no regard for others having to live with the effects of what he did.

What I'd like is for some crony of Markie to find where George lives which shouldn't be too hard, give him a severe beating/stab him, not enough to kill but enough to land him in hospital for a long time and facially disfigure him, which terrifies George so much that he and amber have to move away, never to be heard of again.

OverArmoured · 19/10/2025 22:09

muddyford · 19/10/2025 19:37

Esme still sounds like Zainab when she speaks initially (thought it was her) then lapses into some weird mongrel West Country talk.

Well done Lilian. As PPs have said, George's involvement in shopping Markie in prison isn't a credit, merely levelling the account a little. Wish she'd rung the police and got the nasty manipulative little scrote banged up for another few years

I thought it was Zainab, the first time she spoke. It sounds like Zainab putting on a dodgy accent that keeps slipping on and off.

OverArmoured · 19/10/2025 22:10

Apart from anything, I wonder whether pubs can employ people with criminal records without causing issues with their license? I don’t know. Also, aside from all the other good reasons he shouldn’t work there, it seems like it would be not great from a Marky perspective either.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 23:04

Will Josh either buy Meadow Farm (don't ask me how) or end up with Esme, or both?

Good to hear him again, anyway, and to marvel anew at Ruth's rudeness to/about Josh. I'm enjoying watching his real Mum in the Celebrity Traitors.

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JudyCoolibar · 19/10/2025 23:51

newtlover · 18/10/2025 16:09

George behaved v badly but has now served time and appears to be repentant
Lilian was petulant and OTT
nobody wanted to work with George, they voted on it, he won't get a job- that should satisfy her

If he was really repentant he might consider looking for work practically anywhere other than the place where the woman he nearly drowned worked, and which was part owned by a close relative of the woman he tried very hard to frame for his crimes. He might also have refrained from trying to use moral blackmail on Jolene.

JudyCoolibar · 19/10/2025 23:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 23:04

Will Josh either buy Meadow Farm (don't ask me how) or end up with Esme, or both?

Good to hear him again, anyway, and to marvel anew at Ruth's rudeness to/about Josh. I'm enjoying watching his real Mum in the Celebrity Traitors.

My money's on him getting together with Esme and running the farm with her or for her. With any luck it'll seriously annoy Pip.

JudyCoolibar · 19/10/2025 23:57

JudyCoolibar · 19/10/2025 23:51

If he was really repentant he might consider looking for work practically anywhere other than the place where the woman he nearly drowned worked, and which was part owned by a close relative of the woman he tried very hard to frame for his crimes. He might also have refrained from trying to use moral blackmail on Jolene.

And another thing, he was clearly trying to blag a free pint off Jolene. I guess they'e aiming to demonstrate that he's inherited all the nastier characteristics of his dodgiest relatives.

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 19/10/2025 23:59

I listened to the podcast earlier tonight - two episodes, which I think were the most recent two but could have been old ones.

I was struck by how much support George had from the real life people on the podcast! Lots of "Oh, he's a product of his childhood, he's just lost his way a little bit yada yada..." - and dare I say it, I thought it was blooming obvious that the men in the room had mentally downplayed and forgotten George's incel behaviour and past. The women barely gave it a passing mention. As far as I'm concerned, George is a nasty piece of work, prison hasn't reformed him (just shaken him up a bit) and if he stays with Amber there's a good chance of a domestic abuse storyline in the future.

Speaking of domestic abusers, I would like to throw in Rob's brother Miles as a candidate for buying Mulligan's farm. Either he sells up the field and the magic money fairy makes it enough, or it's handily next door to Mulligans, and Miles is magically rich from inheritance from Rob, and there's some BS clause in Rob's will that means he's obliged to buy a farm and oblige Henry to run it or something.

Back to the podcast - another thing I found odd, was that Angus (the actor who voices George) hasn't really kept up to date with any storyline that has been going on that he wasn't involved in. Is that usual, do you think? There was lots of updating him on what's happened since George has been in prison, yet as far as I'm concerned the actor has been on fairly often during the last year, so why wouldn't he as a person take at least a passing interest in the storylines of the program?! I can't imagine being on it and not tuning in, or glancing over the scripts, at least occasionally. Still, it was interesting to hear how they recorded him being on the phone, and there was a bit about sound effects including lambs being born, and I'd recommend a listen all in all.

I feel deflated that so far George has had a very soft landing out of prison. It's like everybody (except for Lillian and co and the Bull) has forgotten that there was a damn good reason for him being banged up and they're putting all their focus on poor old George, what a rough time he's had of it, poor little baby. I could do with some villagers shouting and people telling him what for. As far as I'm concerned the only logical position for anybody to take is that he still DID do a terrible thing, it was right that he served time for it but that now the real job of trying to heal the harm he has done in the village can be started by him, not written off. That grassing on Markie most certainly does NOT wipe his slate clean, let alone mean anybody owes him a favour, that it is OBVIOUSLY inappropriate beyond belief that he asked for a job where Fallon works, and that he should damn well go cap in hand to his grandparents not be shunning them, because it was HIS responsibility to own up to his own actions, and if they hadn't have acted on their conscience then somebody else and their family would be going through everything that he and his family have done, without having actually have been guilty.

Yes I am still annoyed with George.

Oh, and I 100% believe Alice wasn't going to drive. She'd gone and parked up and drunk in the car before and not driven it. A drunk's sense of ethics is often off, but she was sure of hers on this one and I do believe her. Not that it really matters in the eyes of the law in this case - she physically didn't drive, and George did.

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 20/10/2025 00:03

Oh, and the podcast did clear something up for me that I remember we were a bit unsure about at the time. They reckoned that the noise was Alice trying to get George to stop the car and then trying to open the door to be sick.

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 20/10/2025 00:05

He should ask Freddie for a job at LL. Freddie should be somewhat sympathetic, he had a hard time getting anybody to give him a chance when he was newly out of prison. Though Freddie's crime was nowhere near as awful as George's.

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 20/10/2025 00:06

And another thing! George hasn't had many (any?) girlfriends. He's been locked up for a year. He's young. There is NO way that he lasted more than a few seconds when left alone with Amber. 100% he was and will continue to be a shit shag, he's too selfish to be a generous lover.

BeatriceBatchelor · 20/10/2025 05:11

Will Josh either buy Meadow Farm (don't ask me how) or end up with Esme, or both

Josh ❤️ Boo

I called it first.

TottersBlithely · 20/10/2025 07:02

Nah … 😄 It’s been a loud chorus since the very second Mulligan’s daughter was first mentioned …

GreenLaurel · 20/10/2025 07:50

I don’t feel like George has really taken any accountability for his actions yet, if indeed he ever will. He doesn’t seem very sorry at all. I do hope we get an episode where someone (Kate or Brian or Lilian) rips him a new one.

GreenLaurel · 20/10/2025 07:52

Also Neil and Susan at the time raised an excellent point that Emma and Will would be accessories to the crime if they hadn’t acted on the info (I think that’s right). George put him mum in a bad situation. Just selfish and immature.

TottersBlithely · 20/10/2025 07:54

If this is how George proposes to conduct himself immediately out of prison I can’t see him enjoying his freedom for long.

Surely he wasn’t terrorising elderly women before he was incarcerated? I know they’re not strangers, and Lilian gave as good as she got, but it was shocking, nonetheless.

Wonder who Lilian will tell …

GreenLaurel · 20/10/2025 08:00

I haven’t listened to all of last nights episode, will catch up in a bit.

JudyCoolibar · 20/10/2025 09:03

The weapon people like Lilian have got at the moment is that George is out on licence. If the police have to be called they'll lock him up first and ask questions later. It's quite salutary seeing him in a situation where women have power over him, but you have to wonder how long he'll stand for it and what will happen when his sentence is fully expired.

crumpet · 20/10/2025 09:05

OverArmoured · 19/10/2025 22:09

I thought it was Zainab, the first time she spoke. It sounds like Zainab putting on a dodgy accent that keeps slipping on and off.

Thought I caught a bit of Welsh there too at one point.

it will be good if there is a longer term storyline/new farm in the mix - hope it does stay.

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