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The Gift, Radio 4 documentary series

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/09/2023 09:51

Anybody else listening to this? It's only being released weekly, I think. It's a series of at least three episodes looking at the life-changing discoveries some people have made as a result of uploading DNA to genealogy websites like Ancestry. Last week's was an eye-opener - it was about children conceived with the help of fertility clinics long ago and tracking down sperm donors. This week's is about a man trying to find out something about his father's family and getting a huge shock. It's thought-provoking stuff. As the intro to each episode says, without anybody really noticing it, far less regulating it, an enormous database of DNA has been created worldwide and the ramifications are enormous.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gd2dgb

BBC Sounds - The Gift - Available Episodes

Listen to the latest episodes of The Gift on BBC Sounds

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gd2dgb

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Saker · 19/09/2023 18:59

Yes I have listened to the first episode of this. It was very interesting and quite shocking. I am quite interested in family history and geneaology, but I have held back from taking a DNA test because I am concerned about consequences. Also about privacy issues and what uses might be made of that database with your DNA on it in the future. Not that I have any reason to think there's anything major in my family to find out 😀, but that's the point isn't it? And in fact I know that my great grandfather was illegimate by an unknown father so who knows what might be out there.

PermanentTemporary · 19/09/2023 19:01

Yes, I've heard the first 2 episodes. The second about the search for his dad was particularly gripping for me - I wondered about the film rights...

I think the whole series is up on BBC
Sounds?

nauticant · 21/09/2023 14:45

I'm also listening. Great radio, the episodes so far have really gripped me.

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 09/10/2023 19:49

I've come across this series after it was recommended in a thread in the Genealogy Section.

I've listed to the first 3 programmes already today and the stories are truly shocking.

You're right about the huge database too @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g. Every time they repeat that line it sends shivers down my spine.

BaconAndAvocado · 24/10/2023 21:01

I’m enjoying this series immensely.

I too have avoided sending off my DNA, for privacy reasons and the fact that my Dad was a bit of a lady’s man in the 1960s and one brother is enough for me!

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 26/10/2023 18:25

BaconAndAvocado · 24/10/2023 21:01

I’m enjoying this series immensely.

I too have avoided sending off my DNA, for privacy reasons and the fact that my Dad was a bit of a lady’s man in the 1960s and one brother is enough for me!

I'd do it @BaconAndAvocado you could have a whole new tribe to met, it might make Christmas more interesting...Wink

I've listened to the whole serious now and thought it was really well researched and presented.

Halsall · 27/10/2023 09:37

I’m gripped too - it’s really fascinating. I did do a test a few years ago as, yes, I was given a kit as a gift….no massive surprises, fortunately, except that there was a small but still significant mystery strain of Eastern European in the mix when, as far as we knew, the entire family is solidly confined to these islands. So there may be something lurking somewhere down the line. Hopefully nothing sinister…

2Rebecca · 29/10/2023 19:20

I thought it was excellent. I now have no desire to ever do a DNA test

BlowingAway · 29/10/2023 19:23

Yes, just listened to the first couple but it's really good.

CharAStar · 29/10/2023 19:34

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g I've just bookmarked this
I shall listen whilst at work

Candleabra · 29/10/2023 19:38

Very interesting.
I was taken aback by the health episode. Opens Pandora’s box. Would you want to know if you had a degenerative illness that wouldn’t materialise for decades? Makes you wonder what you’d do.

goldennavy · 29/10/2023 19:46

Thanks for the heads up

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/10/2023 20:44

Candleabra · 29/10/2023 19:38

Very interesting.
I was taken aback by the health episode. Opens Pandora’s box. Would you want to know if you had a degenerative illness that wouldn’t materialise for decades? Makes you wonder what you’d do.

I had similar thoughts. On the one hand, when there was no possibility of finding out, life was simpler, but on the other hand, at least now you can tell your children and they can make an informed (but very difficult) decision whether to have children at all, and whether to have genetic counselling/tests in early pregnancy to try to avoid the inherited disease.

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Candleabra · 29/10/2023 21:20

It’s a difficult one isn’t it, too much knowledge is a dangerous thing sometimes. I mean, you could have a genetic predisposition towards dementia but still die in a car crash years earlier. What a lot of wasted energy and worry.
For me, I know it would completely overshadow my life so id prefer to live in ignorance (whilst making hopefully decent lifestyle choices to minimise other health risks).

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 07/12/2023 22:23

Candleabra · 29/10/2023 21:20

It’s a difficult one isn’t it, too much knowledge is a dangerous thing sometimes. I mean, you could have a genetic predisposition towards dementia but still die in a car crash years earlier. What a lot of wasted energy and worry.
For me, I know it would completely overshadow my life so id prefer to live in ignorance (whilst making hopefully decent lifestyle choices to minimise other health risks).

I think I feel the same. There's a high probability that I would focus on it too much and the ensuing anxiety might overshadow my life.

nauticant · 21/03/2024 20:33

There's a bonus episode, being broadcast now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001w6z0

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/03/2024 14:35

Thanks for that, @nauticant, very interesting.

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CadyEastman · 28/03/2024 16:33

Thanks @nauticant. I'll have a look for that too.

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 09/10/2024 21:05

I've started listening to the bonus episode today. I've not listened to the end yet but fuck me, how scary is the lack of security at 23&Me?

Lalgarh · 14/10/2024 01:22

They're telling people to delete their information from 23andMe in expectations the database will be sold off to whoever

nauticant · 01/11/2024 08:31

The Gift returns next week with series 2: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0024p01

BaconAndAvocado · 01/11/2024 13:40

nauticant · 01/11/2024 08:31

The Gift returns next week with series 2: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0024p01

Thanks @nauticant

redpickle · 04/11/2024 12:51

Anyone listened to the first 1 or 2 episodes of the second series?

Just finished the second episode of 'switched'. I just feel so sorry for 'Jessica'. Although they all say she's still their daughter/sister etc it must be so hard seeing them all bonding and living so close, popping in etc. I'm not surprised she feels shoved out.
I hope the NHS hurries up with the compensation

Saker · 04/11/2024 15:03

I listened to it to. There is a separate thread on here about it though I think it is based on an article on the bbc news site rather than the podcast. I agree, you can understand why "Clare" having had a pretty rubbish upbringing is keen to embrace her new family, but "Jessica" must feel completely left out and with no "new" family of her own to go to. Particularly the trip to Ireland and the tracing of ancestors etc. I hope they can find a way forward together.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/11/2024 15:51

Poor, poor 'Jessica'. She's had a rubbish deal here. So many unintended consequences from these DNA tests!

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