👩‍🌾 The Archers spoilers thread #5: Can't wait for 7.02pm? Join us here!

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If it's a six-week lead-time than he ought to know now whether they are in the studio recording the episodes for six weeks' time. I expect that when they do finally record there, one or other of the actors involved will take to social media to say how wonderful it is to be back, if the BBC doesn't tell off one of the production team to do it first.

(With luck it will be one of the new young clone-males, and he'll be sacked and his character leave or die, or at least be replaced with an actor whose voice can be easily told from all the rest of them!)

Yes Asking thank you for the info and I agree it's very difficult to distinguish the male voices atm. Chris has a very neutral voice, they should've given him a Borsetshire accent (if I remember correctly the actor DID have one when he began, maybe the actor changed or he decided to be more MC, drop his accent, because he's married 'above himself'. I like his ideas for making ironwork trees.

Chris Carter used to sound so posh it was weird to think of him as any relation to Emma, Susan or Neil; when Sean O'Connor got rid of that actor and a new one was employed, the new one was heavily Mummerset for a while but seems to have toned it down a bit.

Aaah so the actor changed! The new one needs to have a BIT of Borsetshire/Mummerset to help us recognise him.

He does have a bit, but a lot less than when he started.

I didn't think the original Chris sounded posh but that was because I knew the actor had spent most of his life in a Gloucestershire village, having previously lived very near where we do in London. I never met him or his family but the people who lived in our house before us knew them. (This has to be one of the most contrived claims to fame ever.) I concede he didn't sound much like Neil, Susan or Emma, though!

Thanks for the spoilers, Asking!

We said the opposite Gasp The original actor began with a 'country' accent, the new one sounds posher.

If you had listened on Wednesday 6/5/2020 (Repeat from August 2, 2010) you would have heard the Mummerset-free voice of Chris Carter from the Old Days. (Though he did have a nasty case of glo'al incapacity...)

Until April 2014, when he was played by Will Sanderson-Thwaite, Chris' accent was slightly Alice-infected RP. When the part was taken over by Wilf Scolding in March 2017, Wilf initially played it broad Mummerset and has now mercifully calmed down on that.

Oh ok thanks Asking Interesting names! The only problem being that Wilf sounds just like a lot of the other male actors. There loys the prablem

He sounded less like the rest when he started, but he's reverted to Standard Southern With A Bit Of Estuary now.

Late again. I have been waiting for things which haven'y yet arrived.

BBC One-Liners
20 July Chris finds himself in trouble and Emma has a brainwave.
21 July Alice’s big decision causes ructions and Brian has concerns.
22 July Ed’s past returns to haunt him and events spiral out of control for Chris.
23 July Emma and Ed face a dilemma and Alice is not happy.

Credits
Mon 20/7/2020, Tue 21/7/2020, Wed 22/7/2020, Thu 23/7/2020
Writers: Caroline Harrington & Tim Stimpson
Director: Kim Greengrass
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Brian Aldridge: Charles Collingwood
Alice Carter: Hollie Chapman
Chris Carter: Wilf Scolding
Ed Grundy: Barry Farrimond
Emma Grundy: Emerald O’Hanrahan

If I get the Radio Times or Daily Mail synopses for next week I'll add them when I do.

And here we are:

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 20th-23rd July 2020
The Ambridge fly-tipper has struck again, but there’s a huge shock in store when the identity of the guilty party is revealed …
Elsewhere, Emma fears treading on Clarrie’s toes with her vegetable patch, but comes up with an idea that ensures an Ambridge tradition continues. But, as ever with the Grundys, a complication soon arises.
Chris is also facing trouble when one of his customers makes a complaint that begins to spiral out of control. And Alice’s controversial decision continues to cause concern for her family. She’s adamant she’s made the right choice, but might she be struggling more than she’s made out?

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update 20th-23rd July 2020
Our attention is turned this week to the goings-on of Alice and her husband, Chris. Alice has been inclined to overdo it, making her aunt Lilian look like a model of restraint, and leaving her blacksmith husband to carry her home from many an Ambridge knees-up. Now,despite claiming she’s fine, Alice is struggling, and makes a controversial decision that has every one very worried.
Chris finds himself in trouble when a customer makes a complaint, and Brian has his own worries about one of the Aldridge clan.
There’s also a minor problem in Grundyland over a vegetable patch, but it’s overshadowed by a major dilemma for the family later in the week.
Meanwhile,the Ambridge fly-tipper strikes again - and is finally identified.

Betcha the fly-tipper is Gavin.

Thanks, Asking!

Thanks Asking.
Alice has a drink problem, doesn't she.
I hope that Philip is the fly-tipper, and that Kirsty dumps him.

Joy would have known Philip or Gavin when she gave someone her rubbish to dump for no discernable reason (paper rubbish has been being collected all year round here, and I know of nowhere that has not had dustbin collection), so I don't think it can be either of them. I mean, she would have told David that it was that nice Philip next door who said he'd get rid of her rubbish for her, wouldn't she?

It might be one of the slaves.

TA is rubbish.

Hmm. Is it Tim, or is it the Slave Mosster?

If the spoiler was "Ed’s past returns to haunt him", Tim Oatey seems more likely somehow. Moss and Moss aren't really Ed's past, much.

Definitely Timotei.

It could be Gavin. Ed got very jealous of Gavin when he and Em were getting pally. Possibly more likely to be Timotei, though.

Except that Joy would have known Gavin, who was living next door to her for several weeks.

Yes, I meant it could be Gavin Ed saw coming into the field. One of the slaves would have been collecting the rubbish. Still think Timotei is more likely, though.

I'd given up on archers since it went into the monologues but heard Alice's yesterday and now firmly in its grip again!

Am I right in thinking she definitely has an alcohol problem which has been hinted at for years now? Why was she fired from PB?

Re today, I instantly thought Timotei.

Alice wasn't fired; her boss was unhappy about her not answering emails in a timely manner and generally not being up to scratch, and said if she didn't improve they might have to let her go, so she resigned in a snit because he had dared to criticise her in any way. Everything since then has been ex post facto self-justification. (I think she has also uttered the classic Archers words "I had no choice!" and if not them, something very close to them.)