Movin' on up (Ed and Emmur), Movin' on out (Brian and Jenny), Time to break free (Lily from Russ, we hope), Nothing can stop *The Archers* in 2019 - Thread 97 (Joe Grundy’s age!)

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Many thanks to @LilianGish for the title and to @NotdeadyetBOING for being the last threadstarter. Further thanks due to @PseudoBadger for kicking of this long, long series of Archers threads and to @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3439443-keep-it-to-yourself-the-archers-spoilers-thread-4, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

I wonder where Brian and Jennifer will end up. I was very taken with the idea on the last thread that the mysterious Gills won't last very long and the house will be sold back to the Aldridges at a knockdown price.

Pretty sure I remember my father paying for petrol with guineas ...

The last guinea coins were struck in 1813. Certain things like bloodstock and paintings are sold at a guinea price. Your father definitely did not pay for petrol using guineas and it is unlikely anything as mundane as petrol would have been invoiced in guineas.

Not a guinea coin dafty ... I think he was charged in guineas - as in so many pounds & pennies. But I can't dredge up any details. (Too old to remember that far back.)

I wondered today if Dr Locke will come back. Arrive back as the GP who notices what the locum missed and alerts everyone to Elizabeth's failing mental health.

I think auctions were conducted in guineas but certainly things in shops and petrol stations were paid for in pounds, shillings and pence.

Good point Beka - Richard, who knows Elizabeth well, might have picked up stuff the locum missed. I wondered if that was the whole point of having the locum - so Elizabeth would continue to fall through the net. I don’t like to think where this story is going - I find it is scarily well written and acted. Elizabeth sounds exactly like a friend of mine who is going through something similar (in fact listening to tonight’s episode prompted me to send her an extra text to check up on her).
Changing the subject, went to see a brilliant Grayson Perry exhibition this afternoon featuring this fabulous tapestry Love the fact that The Archers features so centrally and prominently in a work about all that’s great about Britain. Thought of you all.

Yeah - I did mean £s and shillings (not pennies).

Paintings, horses, prize live-stock and proper antiques were and still are reckoned in guineas. A bill for petrol would not have been.

Sorry Lil'G - I typed over you. Very magnificent tapestry.

UniversalAunt 'So you have a business line rather than a residential line to improve the level of service, call out time for repair and compensation if service outage extended?'

No; I used to have one paid for my company but nowadays it's just assumed everyone has sufficiently capable domestic broadband in the same way that they assume power and water. I'm just fortunate that when eventually OpenReach reached our village they decided to bestow FTP on us.

But back to TA...good that Shula noticed Lizzie is having problems, but somehow doubt sleeping pills will be the cure.
Was the license screwup really that Lizzie hasn't submitted something she should have, do you think?

Posher frock shops charged in guineas, it was the equivalent of £1.05.

I'm sure singles records were 6/8 (6 shillings and eight old pence), not 8/6. 6/8 was a third of a pound, so you could buy 3 for a £ if you had enough pocket money.

My first record was bought jointly by me and my mum. It was Groovy Kind of Love by The Mindbenders.

I wondered if Lizzie had cancelled the appeal as she did not want to attend or was scared to attend.

I wondered if she had asked for it to be postponed.

nowadays it's just assumed everyone has sufficiently capable domestic broadband

I can still claim back the costs of mine from work for on-call, but we are surprised it's not been ended yet (we were talking about it today.) Mind you, it's far more likely to be the telecoms company rather than my neighbour causing any problems with it.

I assumed the licence screw up was entirely down to Lizzie not being able to face leaving the house, and everyone at the review panel sitting there getting annoyed before moving on to the next case, and it was not actually a screw up on teir part at all, and her solicitor is probably also in the dark about what's going on.

That's exactly the impression I got too Ebearhug.

Thanks for that Tapestry link too, maybe I'll take an earlier train to Sheffield and see it in April.

Given Elizabeth’s method of deflecting enquiries and interest in her wellbeing, & habit of blaming others, Shula did well to get her in to see the GP.

Taken at face value, Elizabeth now seems to be looking after herself & Shula is accepting this e.g. got some meds you’ll be fine now, and now we can all get back to normal. Sorted.

Buuut...

There are so many loose ends for the Pargetters and Lower Loxley just waiting to be gently tugged.

I think Elizabeth fluffed organising the appeal & did not get the papers or some such in on time so now she is deflecting and blustering her way out of it. I don’t remember her working on it when Lily was around.

The SW are doing well describing the slow accumulation of every day life problems and events that can lead to clinical depression. I have a sense that Elizabeth is in for a hard time.

I don’t remember her working on it when Lily was around.

In the script, not that I was there...

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I'm sure singles records were 6/8 (6 shillings and eight old pence), not 8/6. 6/8 was a third of a pound, so you could buy 3 for a £ if you had enough pocket money'

Prices changed, unsurprisingly. I can distinctly remember them being 7/6 when my brother first splurged on one. I think it was the Seekers, we clearly weren't adventurous in our music choices

Shula is demonstrating why I like her with the Elizabeth storyline.

Prices changed, unsurprisingly. I can distinctly remember them being 7/6 when my brother first splurged on one. I think it was the Seekers, we clearly weren't adventurous in our music choices
They were 7/6d when I first bought a single which was probably 1969 or thereabouts.

I don’t remember her working on it when Lily was around.
Lily actually tried to get some work done on it (by the two of them) shortly before she went back to Manchester but Lizzie wriggled out of it.
I agree that the non-hearing of the appeal was entirely down to Lizzie's fault. I also wonder how truthful she was with the locum.

I listen before sleep, using TA like a bedtime story. Last night Shula sent me off feeling all cosy and cared for: her sterling qualities were in evidence rather than being suffocated behind her cardi.

But she's suffering too ... too much time to fill, I think she put it. Since she's stopped whinging so much (note to self) Shula is much more lovable

Just done a massive catch-up having been, like Brine/Jennifer/Kirsty/Roy, without the the internet, though in my case it's because I've been holidaying in a cabin in the sublime temperate rainforests of Victoria.Woken from sleep and soothed later by the kookaburra cackles.

YY to how annoying (and unlikely IMHO) Pip's hoity-toity questioning of Josh's presence was. I'm finding it beyond belief that so many don't get that the whistle is vital for the dog training. Elizabeth's decline via blaming others and avoiding issues, while irritating months ago is now rewarding in terms of the SWs' long game approach to her problems. BTW, just how old is Philip? So many questions....

I'm not answering your questions echt as am too jealous of the rainforest cabin