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We never thought we’d feel sorry for Will. Although of course it should have been Pip! Discuss The Archers here (Titled edited by MNHQ)

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PseudoBadger · 02/03/2018 11:47

Welcome all! I was really touched by the potential for Ed and Will to reconcile. But wonder if Will can accept Ed’s support.

As ever, no spoilers here (there’s a thread for that) - discussion permitted as soon as the pm episode is broadcast.

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BertrandRussell · 09/03/2018 05:51

What was the significance of the cooking going wrong?

cheminotte · 09/03/2018 07:41

I thought it was totally realistic that Chris persuaded Alice to have a drink after all. It's exactly like when someone is on a diet and their friends / family say, 'oh go on, be naughty / just one biscuit' . People find it difficult when their friends/ family are taking the healthy option and see it as a judgement on them.

birdsdestiny · 09/03/2018 07:48

I assume it was to demonstrate Alice can't cope under pressure without a drink. That if she had had a nice glass of wine whilst making her mince she wouldn't have got so stressed. It was a bit clunky I think. Mind my cooking deteriorates if I have a drink.

GnotherGnu · 09/03/2018 08:01

I don't think Alice being flaky is a particularly recent development. Ever since she started work post university she has apparently been ready to take astonishing amounts of time off at the drop of a hat.

ppeatfruit · 09/03/2018 08:08

Alice was obviously drying out and was in a low state (maybe she's guilty about something she did when pissed and realises she has a problem) . Chris doesn't know the half of it and was fed up with her misery so suggested a drink would cheer her up in an insensitive fashion.

Though our son n law was so down while trying to give up smoking that DD2 almost forced a fag in his mouth!

ADarkandStormyKnight · 09/03/2018 08:13

Kate's visit also signalled that Alice is who she goes to when she wants to drink and that it's normal for them to get drunk together.

Largepiecesofcrookedwood · 09/03/2018 08:23

I don't think Chris talking Alice into a drink is that unlikely. They're a young couple and it's been pointed out that they like to party at the best of times so it's a core part of their lives (rather than being something they do on a special occasion)
In our younger days it's the sort of thing that I can imagine DH saying to me, trying in a rather clumsy way to make me feel better about the catastrophic dinner by plying me with the thing that is known to solve all ills.

BertrandRussell · 09/03/2018 08:26

How old are Chris and Alice?

ppeatfruit · 09/03/2018 08:27

known to solve all ills …... Yeah apart from liver damage eh Large? Hmm Grin

C8H10N4O2 · 09/03/2018 09:54

What was the significance of the cooking going wrong?

Seemed mainly an opportunity to demonstrate horribly bad manners toward the cook.

Alice/Chris - late 20s I think? I lose track.

savagehk · 09/03/2018 09:56

sorry if it's been posted on threads past but what happened to / was in the suitcases? hard cash?

NotdeadyetBOING · 09/03/2018 10:03

Good point about the suitcases. Yet another plot point left dangling, methinks.....

BertrandRussell · 09/03/2018 10:15

The cooking failure was utterly bizarre. And I agree-they were horrible to Alice about it. All very odd.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 09/03/2018 10:48

I was bitterly disappointed by that episode. The teaser for it said that Alice's evening would go disastrously wrong. I was hoping for any or all of the following:

  • Alice getting so drunk she set the cottage on fire
  • Alice getting so drunk she confessed to running Matt over
  • Alice getting so drunk she confessed to visiting Nic a few days before her death and washing the scratch in polluted water from the Am just below Low Mead
  • whether or not she got drunk, Chris discovering that she slept with her annoying colleague when she got drunk at the office do recently and is now pregnant
  • Alice saying something so rude and snobby about Susan that she and Chris had a marriage-ending row

But all that happened was that the food wasn't great. Pah.

Gruach · 09/03/2018 10:54

Well, you’ve pointed them in the right direction now Gasp0 - so we will inevitably get at least one of your SLs soon.Grin

R4 · 09/03/2018 10:55

The dinner party was very strange. If it had been a disaster - of the Bridget Jones' blue string soup variety - then it could have been an amusing interlude (seeing as we can't have the Grundys being the comic turn at the moment) but it wasn't that. They were all being quite nasty and I have to say that I found the bitchiness too shrill and intense.
I was relieved when the episode was over.
Shock

ppeatfruit · 09/03/2018 11:13

FallonHarr were bad mannered but it was the type of thing that Alice might well have done if she's had a glass or two! She was silly to cook from scratch for the starter anyway. The Kofta were a starter weren't they?

BertrandRussell · 09/03/2018 11:17

And Fallon is never, ever nasty. I don't think Harrison is either.
More character transplants? Oh, and all that stuff about the telly-what was that about?

Bekabeech · 09/03/2018 12:30

The Hit and Run of Matt, has to be solved even though just about all the other rampant crime in Ambridge hasn't been. In fact everyone has been a bit too laidback about it . Even though no one cares about Matt the idea that someone could be knocked over and left like that ina small community, would have everyone on edge until someone was found for it.
In fact it's more the kind of thing that would start a speed watch campaign and a campaign for: traffic calming, better lighting, lowered speed limits etc.

MrsArthurShappey · 09/03/2018 13:19

I think the awkward atmos at the dinner party was to highlight how different it is when Alice is sober. The 'bad manners' of Fallon and Harrison (and Chris) are nothing to the way Alice usually behaves. They clearly thought it was 'just a laugh', and pissed Alice would laugh it off. I reckon she has shagged one of her colleagues, and that's what's sworn her off the booze.

MrsArthurShappey · 09/03/2018 13:20

Oh and on the subject of Chris plying her with drink, wasn't he concerned about how much she was drinking a short while ago? Or am I imagining that?

MrsGrindah · 09/03/2018 13:28

Oy Betty we don’t call other posters names on this thread. I know Harrison’s accent is a Lancashire one . My point is they both mangle those accents by over accentuating them and because it’s radio it’s even more noticeable

tamaraboomdeay · 09/03/2018 13:33

Given that a pp pointed out that throwaway comments on TA are never just throwaway comments, surely there was a point to the recent scene where Chris said he'd like a baby now please and Alice said no she's not ready? Surely that is the green light for Alice to get accidentally pregnant (and happily punish her for being a woman of child-bearing years who doesn't want children)?

So I maintain she is pregnant hence the no drinking - but probably with annoying guy at work's baby after drunk party, cue end of marriage...

But a red herring as far as Matt is concerned. For which I'm guessing Nic did it by accident and Shula saw it, stopped and did nothing, hence her angst??

savagehk · 09/03/2018 14:19

Didn't Alice not come home one night after a work do recently?
I think she's slept with someone there after getting too drunk.

Bekabeech · 09/03/2018 14:22

I found that scene reminiscent of a Maeve Binchy short story I read once, where a guy had just come out of rehab for alcoholism and his Mother kept encouraging him to have a drink until he fell off the wagon.