Lies and subterfuge in Ambridge - from a policeman? That's just not cricket! Discuss The Archers here.

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Thank you R4 for the title.

I can't imagine that the insurance industry would provide cover against something that was avoidable. I would guess that the premium for IBR cover would, by amazing coincidence, be set at about the same as the cost of vaccination.

Is anyone else mildly entertained by the awareness that the word vaccine comes from the French/Latin meaning cow-related?

Yes, it occurred to me too as I was typing "vaccination".

Speaking as someone who works in insurance, I don't think something being avoidable would preclude offering cover. The underwriters would worry about moral hazard, ie not bothering to vaccinate if you are insured, but presumably that's easy to address through policy conditions.

I would have thought that the potential loss of a whole herd would be enough to make insurance attractive.

Fascinating DDD, I love etymology. Presumably because of history of being developed with cowpox.

I meant more insurance that would go after the careless pip!

So when it comes out that pip covered up the escaping cows - do you think the dopeys will try and defend her etc? I'm sure Ruth will come up with a reason that poor little pip shouldn't be blamed

isn't ibr the disease that kills the baby elephants in zoos?

Presumably because of history of being developed with cowpox.
Yes, exactly that. Edward Jenner and smallpox and all that.

Edward Jenner and smallpox and all that.

That was a question in our WI pub quiz last week! (ie who discovered the smallpox vaccine?)

Yes vaccination comes from vacca due to the cowpox/smallpox link.

I wondered about insurance as well - but I guess the insurance is that you have your herd vaccinated. Seems a high-risk strategy to me to just hope for the best, given how catastrophic this infection looks to be for Tony in particular. I suppose it's like human anti-vaccers who rely on herd immunity to protect their children. Not sure I'd rely on others to protect my entire livelihood though. £2000 is obviously a lot, but not in the scheme of Brookfield/Bridge Farm expenses surely. And surely not given the risks of not spending that money.

Again I feel we need dfw to give us the info from the real world.

If they can show the ibr was spread through negligence then they must have a case against Brookfield?

Routine vaccination may be rare if something is fairly rare and/or the vaccination has a short effective period- e.g I think kennel cough vac. only covers for about 6months so its used when you know it will be needed.

N B-S in the Guardian.

Nice.

Thanks for the ibr intell. Also the etymology - never thought of it but makes perfect sense.

It appears I was right about Lynda's Community Speedwatch initiative. Go me

Lovely NBS piece Gruach - thank you for the link.

It dawned on me tonight why Usha and Ruth are such good friends! Peas in a pod, as they are being written at the moment.

I'm wondering what Toby is going to do now that Kenton has opened his eyes to the limitation of the Gin idea?

He's certainly not going to pay Pip her money back any time soon!

Vango I said the same to myself last week when Usha was banging on to Harrison about the injustice of not being allowed to continue on the cricket team refusing to believe she's just shit

Usha is a pain, I have no love for her. But I also had some sympathy with the argument of being able to come along to practice just for fun and exercise, not necessarily to be on the team. She wasn't arguing that she was great and ought to be picked for the team.

I agree that Usha (or anyone) should be allowed to join in with the fitness/stretching sections of the training, but in my experience of village cricket, there's not that much of that!

Nets consist of batters facing bowlers - and you need to be of a certain standard for any mutual benefit. If Johnny is bowling, he needs to practise his pace, not be thinking oops it's Usha in the red helmet, I'd better send her a gentle one. Similarly, it's not good for Molly's batting if Usha continually bowls her wide or feeble balls.

I may be overinfested in TA and cricket...

It feels a bit like they are having a laugh at feminists now

mummytime - I felt that Toby realised he wasn't putting in nearly enough work when they had the visit.
As for P*p don't get me started.

I'm wondering about all these speeding vehicles. Should we open a book about which character is going to get run over by one? I'd pray for Pip, except that I don't think I could cope with listening to Ruth's reaction.