Out, damned SOC! Out I say! When will Ambridge be free? Discuss The Archers here

[PseudoBadger]

A once-great soap is going down the Beverley drain.

Pip's so pathetic. Yeah, yeah, I'm so cool and up for no strings FWB. I give her a week before she's pining for a whole lot more.

Ebear Tip and Faletau play in the back row for the Welsh rugby team. Guscott played in the backs for the English rugby team some years ago and now commentates. Guscott used to to do a certain amount of modelling but was rather more cerebral than Henson

The picnic thing was very odd indeed.........

Do we really need to know that pip and Toby shagged? Bleurgh.

Plus, I'm not usually the Mary Whitehouse type but FWB on a mid afternoon radio show?

Not like.

I'd say it's a fairly crucial piece of information, yes! Central female character from the central Archers farm negotiating a relationship with a Fairbrother - it has the potential to shake Brookfield to the core.

My only problem is that the writing team are sure to ruin a potentially excellent story.

I thought the content of their conversation was almost ludicrously mild, even within the context of R4 drama. Were you thinking of school holiday children doing? Surely most ten year olds would be familiar with the term - and it's an easy concept to explain if a child asks. Nothing awkward about it.

Thank you for the rugby explanation.

Most 10 year olds familiar with no-strings-sex, Gruach? Really? That really does make me feel old

Presumably 10 year olds know that you can have sex for fun?

How do you mean the picnic thing was odd, bert?

Just the being so disapproving of a child having a picnic lunch, and using it as an example of what rubbish grandparents P&T are...........

It was just an example of Rob and Ursula finding any excuse to criticise PatnTone, wasn't it? It was similar to the sneering about the wildlife park being about interesting wildlife instead of all that boring old dirty farm stuff.

I was grateful that for once Pat thought she should run the idea of asking for more time past their lawyer instead of steaming in and asking Rob direct.

Yeah, I know- but it was wierd.........

And if they expected him to have already had a big Sundqy lunch, why were they cooking another one? How were they planning on making that P&T's fault?

Argy Whenever I visit people with TVs the vast majority of channels are playing host to undressed, writhing youth wailing out the exact details of what they want to do to some other youth "up in da club"*. I imagine even if children avoid seeing this on TV it's all over their iPads and Playstations. So, yeah ...

*Look at me - all officially ancient.

The picnic thing? Actually booptastic.

Such all encompassing will to control the story. Rob, having learnt from Times reporters, led Tony just far enough to get him to reveal that Henry had already devoured a slap-up, six course Sunday roast lunch. Then Rob would have been able to fall to the floor exclaiming that the entire day was ruined and weeks of preparation and money wasted. Presented with reports of a picnic he ignored the likely treasure trove of raised pies, sliced meats, cold pasta bakes, triple chocolate yoghurts and array of cakes that would probably be included in a farmers picnic - and dredged up an image of a single limp, curling sandwich. Purely to feed his own hatred.

yes, obviously a sunday roast would have been wrong too.

I thought it rang quite true as the sort of conversation you hear when custody or access are in contention, and one party, or both, takes everything in bad faith - took her for a day out deliberately to spoil mine/never do anything fun with her; bought her new clothes she doesn't need just to indulge and criticise the clothes I've bought/never buy her anything and leave it all to me....

I was thinking that Gruach. Speaks more about Rob's upbringing than P&T that he thinks picnic = a sandwich.

And now they are planning to take Henwee to a safari park, which is what Panettone had planned the day Knob sprung the elf migration on them.

Although, Brute's arrival might change things - he wasn't too keen (understatement) on Knob raising someone else's child, was he?

I think the picnic v Sunday lunch is irrelevant.
Whatever Pat'n'Tone do Rob'n'Arse will say its wrong. We know that.
I thought it was far worse that he was vile when Arse was on the phone. It shows that this is the continual drip, drip, drip that Henwee endures.
This angers me, that in soaps people will go through horrific situations, then when they are resolved its back to normal, as though nothing happened.
Stupidly I expected more from TA.

What I would like to know is, what was his response when Henwee asked why they couldn't lock up knives instead of Mummy?

AAaah did he?? SeekEvery I haven't listened yet, poor little Henry though,

Bruce coming will throw the cat among the pigeons. Arse is terrified of him.

Is this going to be Knob's excuse? He is Ursula's Henwee to to Knob's brutish Knob of a husband - that's where he learned everything he knows about being a father. Is this to give Henwee an excuse to be a Knob further down the line when he harries Mia Grundy (or whoever)? PIp is going to get pregnant isn't she and that's when we are going to find out about who or what is in Brighton - another mother and baby I'm guessing?

If they'd had a big Sunday lunch, it would have been PatnTone being utterly inconsiderate, surely they knew that Henry's father would have ordered Ursula to cook been slaving over a hot stove for him and giving himself a relapse, they did it deliberately, all that heavy food will be bad for him, obviously they're not fit to look after him, chunter chunter.

Perhaps Henwee and his Rusty Bolt will be like Father Jack from Father Ted with his "I love my brick." The bolt has a bigger part than Kirsty at the moment.