One Flue Over The Shepherd's Hut - Discuss The Archers Here

[PseudoBadger]

I do hope Lynda has a carbon monoxide monitor in there...

Henry sounds completely backward. I mean I do think a 5 year old would have some appreciation of the situation. To have him not ask any questions about Robs injuries, the hospital or the actual incident itself.... just doesn't ring true.

The whole thing doesn't ring true. I need to disengage again.

It's getting worse all the time.

If Rob gets out and Henry moves back in with him or he's allowed to see Henry I'm stopping listening again.
I'm not interested in listening to "an every day story of child abuse" for fun.

Glad I didn't listen. I have been dreading the 'Rob gets Henry' storyline ever since parental responsibility was given to Rob. I cannot bear to listen to that.

I think Helen should be shown to be in shock - so in that sense I find her reaction quite understandable and believable. -Doesn't mean I want to listen to it though-

Pat really does need to get a grip. And as for Tony - how strange for a father not to be concerned about Kirsty's revelation that Rob hit Helen, & thus be little less sympathetic to 'poor Rob'. That is unbelievable.😡

Where is Kirsty? Is she not allowed to fraternise with Helen's family and friends now that she is a witness for the prosecution? She doesn't seem to have convinced InHell's people that Knob is dangerous.

See, I can understand that Rob could force P&T to bring him Henwee, but if it were me or my parents, that would be the route he'd have to go down. And that would make more believable listening IMO. Though this might be the only thing that gets Helen to start talking, once she finds out. The thought of Knob getting his hands on Henwee pretty much permanently, that is.

I am still failing to see how this SL is now 'helping' abuse victims. But I suspect I must be the wrong sort of listener.....

Why was Pat hanging around asking if Rob had a message for helen? What was she expecting him to say? She's only herself to blame for the way things finished up. She allowed him and Ursula to outmanipulate her.

Yes, what the fuck is Tony on? I do hope we will get to hear Tom's reaction to Pat and Tony's visit to Rob.

And why Pat was not straight on the phone to Anna or Dominic I have no idea. This is just bollocks.

Which brings me to my dilemma. My unborn child is now able to hear and respond to music and other sounds (allegedly). The theory goes that he will become familiar with pieces played repeatedly to him and will engage positively with them when born.

So I have naturally been pointing the phone at my bump when the theme tune comes on. However I do not want the baby to be as chilled by Rob's voice as I was today (or worse still, like poor stupid Henwee, charmed by it). I think I will have to play the theme tune out loud and then stick my headphones in as soon as the programme actually starts...

I just can't imagine my dad visiting someone who he knew had hit me. And he is the most non confrontational person, but there's no WAY he'd have politely enquiried after my attacker's health.

Surely a social worker would step in if their are allegations of spousal abuse and disallow contact for either parent until the facts are established?

Surely the police would step in if Hellin alleges abuse?

Anna needs to say to Hellin that knob is having contact with henwee to shock her out of her passivity. Yes she is in shock but protecting your child would galvanise any mother.

Just adding a voice to the others to say: this is bullshit.

It seems, from what we hear, that Henry has been dumped with Pat and Tony and then simply left - no guidance, no SS, no anything. I can't imagine, given they keep banging on about him being a witness, that that would really happen.

And I agree with a PP that if you were Pat, having heard Rob wants to see Henry, you'd be straight on the blower to the lawyer asking how you get out of doing it, eg if you need a lawyer to oppose it in court.

You don't go, take a five year old and play nice. That's just ridiculous.

Yep - it's the bulliest bullshit. From that bull that gored Tony.

Also do I remember rightly that when Rob adopting Henry came up and he realised he would need to have background checks he backed out and accepted 'just' parental responsibility then? What is on his record and haven't the police checked?

Might hearing of the Knob-Henwee meeting prompt Hellin into action in terms of remembering what really happened and beginning her defence campaign proper?

But Pat and Tony aren't fully believing of the fact that Helen was being abused are they? As far as they're concerned, Helen was unstable and stabbed rob. While there's a bit of acknowledgement that she might have been being abused, they've always hovered just this side of not believing it.

There haven't been any official claims of abuse. In fact Helen hasn't said anything. There's no way they would prevent Rob from seeing or even having Henry back at this stage as he is the victim not the perpetrator.

I listened to the stabbing episode again today - definitely possible that it was Henry. And as pointed out by others, foreshadowed by the "I'll look after you Mummy" previously.

However, is it really possible that any child would seem so utterly oblivious afterwards? I would be interested to know if that's a common psychological reaction if a child has witnessed or taken part in a traumatic, violent event. It seems far fetched to me, I have to say.

Also - how can Pat and Tony be so THICK?
A) Henry having nightmares about ogres and it doesn't even occur to them to ask themselves if Rob has been abusing/terrorizing Henry too. Not thinking back and remembering the uncharacteristic behaviour - the bed wetting and aggression at school.

B) Taking Henry to see Rob without checking with their lawyer if that's ok. Next thing will be Ursula taking him in and Rob demanding to talk to him alone.

C) Pat's feeble sort of 'Helen wouldn't do a thing like that' and Tony's obvious belief that Helen DID do it to poor old Rob; neither of them sitting down and racking their brains and going through everything from the past however many months it's been.

Gah - so frustrating.

Are Pat and Tony the most useless parents ever seen?

They know Rob has been abusing Helen, one of them chooses not to believe it, neither are doing anything useful on the evidence front despite multiple examples they are aware of and both meekly take her child along to see her abuser

Starting to think Helen is better off in prison away from the lot of them if that's their version of support.

No Rob on this week's cast list, so I thought we were safe...

Pat is just stupid- the way she phrased her disbelief was that she did not believe that Helen had actually inflicted the injuries, which is just ridiculous. She knows that it is clear as day that Helen did it so if she can hardly believe her daughter is capable then surely the obvious suspicion is that Rob behaved so heinously that he drove her to it.

I don't get pat and tony at all and I'm very glad not to have them as my parents

so...where will Rob go when he gets out?
I sort of assumed when they talked of him going 'home' that would be cez Titchener where Ursula can look after him

I only caught the last line tonight. 'I don't think I can do this' well what do you think your options are Pat? Go and live on the moon, emigrate, walk north and keep walking. To mention a few.