Pram for newborn and 2 year old...

[jeffreyshouse]

Phil and Ted Navigator or Icandy Apple 2 Pear...
Any thoughts on which one to get?
We have an old bugaboo chameleon which we love.

Pram mainly going to be used for short walks, or in the back of car (golf).
Thanks of any advice...

Honestly - go to a good independent pushchair shop and try these in the boot of your car. My choice would absolutely be the Apple 2 Pear but you would need to work out how it fits in your car. If the chassis fits, then the seats will stack on top.

Thanks for the advice Tiggywunkle - will do that. I guess that the perfect pram is useless if you can't get it into the boot!
Have read some reports that the Apple 2 Pear is heavy to push and manoeuvre, do you find that?

The pear is heavy.. the apple2pear definitely isn't, it's very different.

I'd check out the oyster max tandem too. Bought this last week for what will be 2.7 yr old and newborn. A lot cheaper than Icandy but brilliant reviews. Can't wait to use it :)