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Landlord wants to double our rent

25 replies

Vegetablespringrolls · Yesterday 14:47

It's still within the LHA. Would we still get the rent paid by universal credit?

We live in a house owned by a charity. We pay a very low rent currently as we get a discount on the rent for working part time for the charity. The head of the charity has said that our rent is no longer covering their expenses and they have to increase the rent.

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BrightonBelle1992 · Yesterday 14:49

I don’t think they can legally do that! Check out the Shelter website. Good luck

Treetreetreetree · Yesterday 14:58

They can’t. It’s illegal.

Wotsupmog · Yesterday 14:59

Maybe their rent isn't covering their expenses. Perhaps the rent has been too low for too long. Ask Citizens Advice or Shelter for help.

OhMyGodSusan · Yesterday 15:00

Depends if the rent they are suggesting is in line with other houses around the area. For example a average 3 bed around your area goes for £900 pm but they want to increase yours to £1400 pm. They cant do that and can be legally challenged

OhMyGodSusan · Yesterday 15:01

Treetreetreetree · Yesterday 14:58

They can’t. It’s illegal.

Of course they can increase the rent.

Error404FucksNotFound · Yesterday 15:01

Contact shelter for advice.

Burningbud1981 · Yesterday 15:01

If it’s still within the LHA rate then yes UC will cover the increase before deductions. But I would speak to Shelter to check if the increase is valid. If in England landlord can only increase rent by issuing a section 13. But I don’t know if your situation is different

MadinMarch · Yesterday 16:22

Treetreetreetree · Yesterday 14:58

They can’t. It’s illegal.

Under what legislation?
So long as they haven't raised the rent within the last year, landlords can raise the rent by however much they want. Obviously it needs to be in line with local similar property rents.
I don't think it matters that the landlord is a charity so long as it's an assured periodic tenancy (APT).
However, it probably could matter if the accommodation was part of a contract connected to their work, and it would be bet to get advice from Shelter etc.

Vegetablespringrolls · Yesterday 17:13

Thank you. The houses in our area aren't the same size and 3 of them have been passed through the same family for generations so we have no idea how much the house is worth or what the average rent should be. I had a look at our contract and it said the landlord can only increase the rent by 5% each year.

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SuperSange · Yesterday 17:55

Is it an almshouse?

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · Yesterday 18:01

Well if the contract says an increase of 5% each year as a max then I would go back and point that out to them.

RVectensian · Yesterday 18:12

If they're still owned by a charity and the charity is making a loss, I'd assume that at some point the house will no longer be available.

Vegetablespringrolls · Yesterday 18:56

SuperSange · Yesterday 17:55

Is it an almshouse?

No

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RandomUserName12345 · Yesterday 18:59

RVectensian · Yesterday 18:12

If they're still owned by a charity and the charity is making a loss, I'd assume that at some point the house will no longer be available.

This. And rightly so. Who covers the loss?

blythet · Yesterday 19:01

Depends. When you say you pay a low rent a how low?

eg if you’re getting a 3 bed for £200 a month and they want £400 it still seems more than fair. Appreciate there’s no direct comparison in the area but surely you can get a ballpark figure?

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 19:55

RandomUserName12345 · Yesterday 18:59

This. And rightly so. Who covers the loss?

The charity coffers or donations?
Being a landlord does not mean your tenant meet all the costs and provide you a profit.

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 19:57

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 19:55

The charity coffers or donations?
Being a landlord does not mean your tenant meet all the costs and provide you a profit.

Of course it does. The tenant isn’t the recipient of the charity 🙄

MrsTerryPratchett · Yesterday 19:58

Are they increasing the base rent, or reducing the discount? Because that's complicated and legally it's not really the same and straightforwardly raising the rent.

RandomUserName12345 · Yesterday 19:59

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 19:55

The charity coffers or donations?
Being a landlord does not mean your tenant meet all the costs and provide you a profit.

I don't donate to charity to cover random peoples' rent because rent aren't up to standard. I would stop donating if I got hold of that story. Charities know that. Xan be very expensive for a charity to spend donated money on.

bababamama · Yesterday 20:02

If you are in tied property connected to your work then rules are different. I’m not up to speed on current legislation, but to those saying it’s legal/not legal probably aren’t familiar with tied property legislation. I think that you need to get expert advice, not just the local CAB and which country will matter too (I’m presuming England but Scottish law will differ usually). I’ve managed a tied property and it had a very specific contract, not an assured shorthold tenancy. The fact that they are a charity doesn’t matter, it will be based on the contract

Completecare · Yesterday 20:03

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 19:55

The charity coffers or donations?
Being a landlord does not mean your tenant meet all the costs and provide you a profit.

If the charity is being well run, I expect this is a "we need to put the rent to closer to market rates or we'll be forced to sell situation"

A charity can't retain an investment that's costing them money.

Legally perhaps they can only enforce a 5% increase in line with the agreement, but they can ask for whatever they can negotiate with OP.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 20:31

You have a valid contract that states they can only raise the rent 5% a year - that is binding for them. Under the new RRA - they can't get you out either so I would push back and insist on the 5%.

saraclara · Yesterday 21:23

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 20:31

You have a valid contract that states they can only raise the rent 5% a year - that is binding for them. Under the new RRA - they can't get you out either so I would push back and insist on the 5%.

The fact that OP works for the charity and has been receiving a healthy discount on the base text, muddies the waters here.

Like a pp, I'd be interested in whether it's the base rent that's being increased, or the discount being reduced/done away with.

caringcarer · Yesterday 21:56

If the rent is still going to be covered by UC it won't be overly high because most people claiming UC housing allowance have to top it up out of the their own funds.

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