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I want to do the right thing by my neighbour but I think she is expecting too much.

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CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 19:25

I am new to this part of Mumsnet and I hope this is the right board. I need advice on doing the right thing by my neighbour. This is a very long opening post, apologies!

My flat has leaked into my downstairs neighbour's flat twice in two different rooms in the last month. Neither leak was my fault - according to my neighbour's plumber who luckily was there the second time. However this doesn't make it any better for my neighbour, who I will call Esme. She was away on holiday when the second leak happened - her plumber informed me. I immediately turned off my stopcock, called a plumber (hers couldn't stay to actually do the repair), put towels down, mopped up the water and went down two or three times a day over the next couple of days until she returned from holiday to ensure that the water really had stopped coming through (even though I had turned off my water), take the towels up, check other rooms etc.

We have in theory sorted out the money side of things (Insurance doesn't come into it because in each case, the cost of ceiling repair and repainting is below or only slightly above the excess on our policy) but I am baulking at her expectations. She thinks I should keep coming down or asking how she is getting on. She wanted a meeting about the damage at the weekend - I said I was exhausted and would meet her the next week. When I did go to see her on the Monday she was furious that I hadn't come on the Saturday. She keeps going back on what was agreed. She keeps complaining to me about the cost of tidying up - bin bags, a car trip to the tip, etc and how unfair it is that she has to pay. But some of the damage was worse in one room because she never goes in there (as she said to me) and water could have been dripping away onto her carpet for up to six weeks. She also didn't notice the other leak until it got bad. She thinks she shouldn't have to check the rooms in her flat because there shouldn't be leaks. I am not responsible for sorting out the damage from one of the leaks, the landlord is, and the other leak is a grey area, but I paid for the repair and redecoration of that room so that she wouldn't have to wait for me to sort out responsibility.

There's more, but this is the gist. I feel as if she expects me to be at her beck and call and give her an open-ended commitment to paying for all the clean-up costs and do everything on her timetable because she is the injured party.

I know how she feels genuinely because I have been in her position with leaks into my flat from the flat above, the latest and worst being earlier this year. I understand the feeling of constantly being on edge, thinking you can hear more dripping, feeling alienated from your lovely home, etc. I was mortified when I found out about the leaks from my flat. When I said I was exhausted, I meant it - I'd been so stressed about the damage to her flat and how upset she was that I couldn't sleep for several nights. I was ill anyway and I just needed a break that weekend.

But I feel I have to draw a line under my financial commitment - dealing with the aftermath of leaks is part and parcel of living in a flat, isn't it? Maybe I should be helping her tidy up - Esme is in her 60s with a dodgy knee - but she has many, many friends who could help her. I have health issues of my own.
The times when it happened to me I cleaned up without any help, took plaster etc in small loads to the local bins over the next couple of weeks, etc. I also had to pay for my own ceiling repairs as the upstairs neighbour basically just shrugged - although she did sort out the cause of the leak, thank god. I realise that my experience with the neighbour above me may be colouring my judgement.

So as I said this is about doing the right thing by Esme but being fair to myself as well. Am I being unfair to my neighbour?

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Offherrockingchair · 02/10/2026 19:35

Your leaks have ruined her home. I’m surprised she’s being so magnanimous! I’d be livid that your poor maintenance had led to my home being part-destroyed.

PepsiBook · 02/10/2026 20:09

Her flat has been damaged by a leak from your flat - that means you (or your landlord if you rent) pay to fix it. All of it, everything. Asap.

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 20:16

It's not my poor maintenance.

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Missohnoyoubetterdont · 02/10/2026 20:18

What is it then?

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 20:26

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 02/10/2026 20:18

What is it then?

Bad conversion. Her plumber and my plumber said it was "just one of those things".

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Onlytoolsandsauces · 02/10/2026 20:31

I am baulking at her expectations.

So as I said this is about doing the right thing by Esme but being fair to myself as well. Am I being unfair to my neighbour?

Yikes your post reads as all me me me. You sound like a terrible neighbour totally dismissive of the hassle you have caused her (inadvertently or not) you should be going above and beyond to put it all right in her timescales not yours, being 'exhausted' is a piss poor excuse.

Onlytoolsandsauces · 02/10/2026 20:32

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 20:26

Bad conversion. Her plumber and my plumber said it was "just one of those things".

You just get worse after each post. Your flat still caused damage to hers, sort it out and shut up whining about yourself.

Mrtumblestit · 02/10/2026 20:41

I think people are being a little unfair on here. Especially to blame for the leak due to poor maintenance?? I’ve had a leak in my home, on to fresh plaster I might add due to the pipes, which I can’t see or have access to as they are between the ceiling and the floor above, corroding. I had to have my freshly plastered ceiling chopped to bits to find the leak.
I see your point, you’re doing what you can. Where is the line to be drawn. When will she finally be happy.

BitOfAStubbornCow · 02/10/2026 20:54

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 20:26

Bad conversion. Her plumber and my plumber said it was "just one of those things".

Is your plumber the same one who did the bad conversions on your flat by any chance?

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 21:00

BitOfAStubbornCow · 02/10/2026 20:54

Is your plumber the same one who did the bad conversions on your flat by any chance?

Neither plumber was responsible for doing the bad conversion. It was a plumber, though, at some stage in the time I have lived here, who made a mistake.

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CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 21:01

Mrtumblestit · 02/10/2026 20:41

I think people are being a little unfair on here. Especially to blame for the leak due to poor maintenance?? I’ve had a leak in my home, on to fresh plaster I might add due to the pipes, which I can’t see or have access to as they are between the ceiling and the floor above, corroding. I had to have my freshly plastered ceiling chopped to bits to find the leak.
I see your point, you’re doing what you can. Where is the line to be drawn. When will she finally be happy.

This is something similar to your pipes issue in one of the rooms. In the other one, it's a strange mistake which must have been done by a plumber at some stage. I have paid for the repairs in the room which may be my responsibility technically and it is as good as new now. I had already explained to her what was happening with the landlord and the other room which is not as badly damaged and is usable. There was literally nothing to discuss, as we discovered on the Monday. She is talking about bin bags and a trip to the tip - she has a car, I don't.

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CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 21:02

Anyway, thank you all for your opinions.

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deargreen · 02/10/2026 21:54

if this is now bugging you I would tell her to claim on the insurance if she feels you are not doing enough. I have had both situations happen to me as I’m on the first floor of three floors. And I’ve dealt with it on and off insurance. I’ve not had to help tidy up anyone’s flat nor would I expect anyone to help me out although it’s nice if they do.

MrsKateColumbo · 02/10/2026 21:59

I think you should have gone through insurance because then these things are sorted out, the flat above my old one leaked into my bathroom, I got quite a large payout and upstairs didnt have to go back and forth with me, better for everyone

ExhaustedRaccoon · 02/10/2026 22:36

I think she’s being a little OTT if I’m honest. You’re doing the best you can and HAVE to do by repairing the issue and paying for the damage. But if it was me, I wouldn’t be doing tip runs. You obviously live in a flat and unfortunately this is something that can happen, how is it your fault ? I’m sure you didn’t deliberately cause a leak.
Id tell her straight… you’re dealing with it, happy to pay for repairs as it’s an issue caused by your water but anything else is up to her.

MummyOre · 02/10/2026 22:42

After the initial clear up, i would have told her to go through her insurance.

I wouldn't have done all you did.

RocketLollyPolly · 02/10/2026 23:10

It sounds like you didn’t hold your upstairs neighbour to account when their flat leaked into yours and so you feel your downstairs neighbour should act the same way.

I don’t know who is right and wrong here but this is what you pay insurance for.

hididdlyho · 02/10/2026 23:11

It sounds like you rent, so the landlord should be sorting out dodgy pipes and paying for and organising repairs. If you'd left the taps running and the flood had happened then that would be on you to sort.

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 23:35

Thanks everyone.

MrsKateColumbo, the damage cost less to repair than the excess on the insurance policy so we didn't bother with the insurance policy.

RocketLollyPolly
I did try to hold my upstairs neighbour to account, but if someone won't pay, they won't pay. No point going to court for the amounts involved.

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Needanadultgapyear · 03/10/2026 07:07

Having had leaks your mistake was not involving the insurance they send someone who installs dehumidifiers and industrial fans, remove all the rubbish, assess what needs to be replaced often carpets, mattresses that have got wet etc . Your neighbour would then have been dealing with her insurance company who would have claimed of yours/you landlords.

Morecoffeeneedef · 05/10/2026 06:27

You should have let insurance deal with it . The cost of making good is obviously higher than you calculated and perhaps the building was converted without proper building regs. Remedial work might be needed to stop more leaks in future. . If it's not too late I would contact your insurer now. Otherwise, of course you should bear all the costs.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 05/10/2026 06:37

How much is the excess if 2 x plumbers 2 x ceiling damaged and "ruined carpets" isnt worth claiming on??? Plus risk of further issues..

I'd have 100% put this through the buildings insurance and its a big mistake not too.
Can you do it now? If so id unilaterally do it and say its too much to deal with and this is cleaner for everyone.

Keep any comms with her in writing and hold your boundaries. Ie
while your sorry for her troubles you have a life too.

I had similar in a flat but i ws "the vicitm" - the nosey neighbours upstairs (who i saw 3+ x per week) Insisted it wasnt worth going via insurance and they'd pay half.... I said fine but went through insurance anyway. They then, thinking they owed me money, studiously dodged me for the next 2.5 yrs. It was blissful.

RocketLollyPolly · 05/10/2026 18:46

CheckBehindCushions · 02/10/2026 23:35

Thanks everyone.

MrsKateColumbo, the damage cost less to repair than the excess on the insurance policy so we didn't bother with the insurance policy.

RocketLollyPolly
I did try to hold my upstairs neighbour to account, but if someone won't pay, they won't pay. No point going to court for the amounts involved.

Your insurers should have pursued it for you. Were the upstairs neighbours not insured?

stichguru · 05/10/2026 18:55

To be honest your leak caused her problems so you should put the damage back to how it was before the leak completely at your expense. I honestly think it's mind blowing that you think anything less is ok. Either it wouldn't be expensive to do that or your insurance should cover it in full.

Nearly50omg · 05/10/2026 19:08

if You are renting then none of this is your problem and your landlord should be dealing with it all??? You shouldn’t be paying for anything

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