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Mansion Tax at £1.5m - what will this mean?

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MaureenOHara · 20/09/2026 09:27

Does anyone have any idea what this might mean for an individual and what it might do to the market. What happened to the £2m market and will that be replicated or is it different?

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BeardySchnauzer · 22/09/2026 10:03

I don’t think anywhere in the manifesto it mentions appropriating assets which that very much starts to feel like

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 10:06

KatiePricesKnickers · 22/09/2026 10:01

@NorthXNorthWest you don’t need to convince me, you need to convince the government, who are desperate for cash, and there is £5t of assets sat there.

Why are you calling it untaxed wealth?

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 10:08

BeardySchnauzer · 22/09/2026 10:03

I don’t think anywhere in the manifesto it mentions appropriating assets which that very much starts to feel like

IMO Treating housing as pure profit for the purpose of tax is appropriation.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2026 10:17

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 09:53

There is about five trillion £ worth of unmortgaged property in the UK. That’s a lot of untaxed wealth the government will eventually tap into.

Can you let me know where the tax free houses are? (Asking for a friend)

Do you really expect people to believe that £5 trillion of unmortgaged property is somehow £5 trillion of “untaxed wealth”? The majority of those homes were bought out of income earned by people who paid income tax and NI. Many also paid stamp duty and took on a mortgage. Mortgage interest generated profits for lenders, on which they themselves were taxed. Then there is the VAT and further economic activity generated through decades of extensions, renovations, repairs, utilities, insurance, lawyers, estate agents and tradespeople. That before we consider the value created by people who settle in an area for long periods of time.

Paying off the mortgage doesn't suddenly erase all of that and turn the house into “untaxed wealth”. As convenient as it seems to be for you to pretend that. Sure there is a perfectly legitimate debate to be had about whether housing assets should be taken into account when assessing entitlement to means tested benefits, particularly where someone has substantial accessible equity. There is also a legitimate debate about whether large gains in property values should be taxed differently. There is also an argument for the elderly to still pay NI, many do pay tax. But those are very different arguments.

If your concern is the windfall created by rising property values, then address the windfall. Taking the whole current value of a mortgage free home, and labelling it “untaxed wealth”, so you can to justify supporting disproportionately taxing the people who happen to own them has nothing to do with fairness and reason and everything to do with greed and envy. Many of those people spent decades putting already taxed earnings into their homes, while that spending generated further jobs, profits, taxes and economic activity.

Ikr ‘untaxed wealth’. Posters are making Labour’s job easy. They’ll tax anything.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2026 10:20

BeardySchnauzer · 22/09/2026 10:03

I don’t think anywhere in the manifesto it mentions appropriating assets which that very much starts to feel like

Yep

ThisOldThang · 22/09/2026 10:20

EasternStandard · 22/09/2026 10:17

Ikr ‘untaxed wealth’. Posters are making Labour’s job easy. They’ll tax anything.

Somebody needs to pay ma welfare, innit.

punnedout · 22/09/2026 10:27

ThisOldThang · 21/09/2026 23:01

We went to view one in 2018 or 2018 that was previously owned by a man in his 90's. The windows were rotted so badly that there were huge gaps between the wood and the glass. The house had small ancient single panel radiators and it must have been horrific in winter. The electrics were so old that there wasn't even a fuse box. It was wired directly into the mains.

It's quite sad that there are old people living like that in private accommodation without anybody knowing about it.

That 3 bed semi was on the market for 'offers over £550k' and the estate agent subsequently told me that it went for £550k.

People outside London just have no idea what the market is like. There think we're all flipping houses for huge profits, rather than living basic lifestyles so that we can pay the mortgage.

Edited

Sigh. Whilst the north is obviously booming and benefitting from high wages and huge investments made by successive governments. Oh wait…

punnedout · 22/09/2026 10:29

GasPanic · 21/09/2026 15:30

It's perfectly possible to partially liquidate assets.

Equity release, remortgaging or lifetime mortgages are all possible.

Government has also proposed schemes where the extra tax can be deferred and accumulate as a charge on a property before it is sold.

So there are multiple solutions for the (very) small percentage of people who wouldn't otherwise be able to pay the tax due to lack of liquidity but want to remain living in the house.

Any proposal involving forcing people to take on debt to pay tax is hardly progressive

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 10:36

The thing that really annoys me is that every year now people get frantic around the budget, there is lots of speculation, investors take money out, and we all lose out basically, collectively. As the vibe is just so negative which is bad for confidence, mental health, people’s spending and all close to Christmas as well. It is depressing all round.

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 10:39

I am not a business owner, I am an employee. But shitting yourself every year around budget time and honestly it includes larger companies listed on the alternative exchanges too now, it is shit for the county. And I do blame the governments with the speculation and the handing out of cookies motto whilst the Titanic sinks. I am sorry but the Government’s job is to keep us safe primarily, not to crash the markets and not to let other people attack us. The handing out cookies at the expense of all long term is just batshittery and vote buying. It is all very toxic.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2026 10:49

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 10:36

The thing that really annoys me is that every year now people get frantic around the budget, there is lots of speculation, investors take money out, and we all lose out basically, collectively. As the vibe is just so negative which is bad for confidence, mental health, people’s spending and all close to Christmas as well. It is depressing all round.

Plus Labour leaking stuff is rife. It used to not be a huge deal. Starmer / Reeves really ramped it up.

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 11:10

I am still waiting for someone to give one good reason why the entire value of a home should effectively be treated as pure profit. If we are even attempting to be reasonable and fair why are we not discussing just the gain?

KatiePricesKnickers · 22/09/2026 11:10

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 10:06

Why are you calling it untaxed wealth?

Because it’s sat there not being taxed.
A wealth tax would allow the government to tap into this, it’s bound to come.
Maybe the mansion tax is the alternative to a wealth tax? No one knows.

In August, the government borrowed £18 billion. They are getting desperate for revenue.

I would prefer they reduce all the state benefits, but the reality is this government won’t do it, and the previous Tory government led us here.
Which only leaves tax, borrow and spend.

Obeseandashamed · 22/09/2026 11:17

BeardySchnauzer · 20/09/2026 10:12

As with all new taxes which are meant to catch the rich they will eventually make sure everyone is paying it

as soon as they introduced it it was obvious the threshold would be pushed down

so far they’ve not done anything to help the housing market so things are only going to get worse

This! Our home is a 4 bed detached that has a normal sized garden in the north. We bought it for £750k 5 years ago but it was the area that held the value not the property itself. It needed everything doing to it and reno costs are likely to be the same as the house. I don’t think it will be worth £1.5m when complete as none of the houses round there sell for that price. If property prices end up rising at the rate they are and the threshold keeps dropping it’s highly likely we will end up paying by a mansion tax on a house that is definitely not a mansion. When I think of mansions, I think of houses with pools, outhouses, surrounding land etc, not 4 bedroom houses in a nice area. This is another policy designed with nothing but envy in mind.

Obeseandashamed · 22/09/2026 11:19

I should also say that this was our first home as grown ass adults with 2 children. We lived in a modest flat and saved for almost 20 years to afford our home. It feels wrong that the government should penalise us for that!

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 11:20

Because they want to penalise all good tax paying law abiding little citizens. That is a direct choice they are deliberately making. Do with that what you will or don’t do. They bank on you not changing your behaviour.

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 11:24

We are all in a toxic relationship with the State as the Parents. All the good children are being punished for the one addict in the family who lies and cheats and lies and cheats some more, and the Parents won’t cut them loose or discipline them because of “love/sympathy/sheer madness/grief etc”. And we all know how that ends. The addict ends up destroying the entire family eventually. It is like a cancer or rot that has taken hold.

KatiePricesKnickers · 22/09/2026 11:25

Apparently 20% of the working age population are claiming benefits.
That will be wiping out the tax receipts of a higher % of people paying in.
The model we have is unsustainable as it is.

Come on IMF, rescue us!

EasternStandard · 22/09/2026 11:38

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 11:20

Because they want to penalise all good tax paying law abiding little citizens. That is a direct choice they are deliberately making. Do with that what you will or don’t do. They bank on you not changing your behaviour.

They’re relentless.

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 11:57

KatiePricesKnickers · 22/09/2026 11:10

Because it’s sat there not being taxed.
A wealth tax would allow the government to tap into this, it’s bound to come.
Maybe the mansion tax is the alternative to a wealth tax? No one knows.

In August, the government borrowed £18 billion. They are getting desperate for revenue.

I would prefer they reduce all the state benefits, but the reality is this government won’t do it, and the previous Tory government led us here.
Which only leaves tax, borrow and spend.

My dog is sat there, untaxed.

I’ve spent so much money for the bugger and on him that his value must have increased.

Would be shame not to tax him.

KeepPumping · 22/09/2026 12:10

PigletJohn · 22/09/2026 00:04

If you have two million pounds worth of gold bars you are not entitled to moan about being hard up. If you own a house worth two million pounds it is the same.

Easier to sell gold bars, both can go up and down in value but one is a safety hedge usually and the other is priced on availability and cost of mortgage debt, because that feeds the Ponzi from the bottom, there will be plenty of people in "high value" houses that don"t have much income, the mistake with this policy is to assume that most people in "high value" houses have other means, stocks, large savings etc.
The whole UK is gone in the head on cheap/free money, homeowners who think their house is a goldmine, younger people going Tap Tap all day and with cars on monthly payments and 60k debt for a degree that gets them a job at Sainsburys, and the clowns on welfare who think they are getting the better of "The Man" by smoking weed and watching shite telly all day. The bond market has to call time on this, the Labour government won"t do it, they are a circus sideshow though.

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 12:12

KatiePricesKnickers · 22/09/2026 11:10

Because it’s sat there not being taxed.
A wealth tax would allow the government to tap into this, it’s bound to come.
Maybe the mansion tax is the alternative to a wealth tax? No one knows.

In August, the government borrowed £18 billion. They are getting desperate for revenue.

I would prefer they reduce all the state benefits, but the reality is this government won’t do it, and the previous Tory government led us here.
Which only leaves tax, borrow and spend.

Apart from the bits that have already been taxed, of course.

Good old Labour. When it comes to property tax, apparently all the taxes already paid to earn, buy and maintain that property can simply be ignored and rebranded unearned wealth. Yet what should attract tax is omitted when it comes them paying tax themselves...

Parasites.

BeardySchnauzer · 22/09/2026 12:14

And all this leaking and speculation does one thing - increase the bloody black hole!!

can you imagine a supermarket business deciding the way to make profits is to keep increasing the prices without even looking at the cost base. They’d go bust almost as quickly as this country…

NorthXNorthWest · 22/09/2026 12:15

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 11:57

My dog is sat there, untaxed.

I’ve spent so much money for the bugger and on him that his value must have increased.

Would be shame not to tax him.

It's only right he pays his fair share. 😉

KeepPumping · 22/09/2026 12:15

Araminta1004 · 22/09/2026 11:20

Because they want to penalise all good tax paying law abiding little citizens. That is a direct choice they are deliberately making. Do with that what you will or don’t do. They bank on you not changing your behaviour.

What behaviour changes do you suggest?