New build on a new estate and social housing. I expect I’ll get torn to shreds but can I have your experiences please?

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We are looking at buying the last house on a street that backs on to an area of the new estate that will be 50 plus houses owned by a housing association.
The house will be a real bargain, they are throwing all sorts of incentives in as I’m sure they want it sold asap as it will be ready in about 6 weeks time.
The sales advisor explained that the tenants will all be working and they won’t be misbehaving as they will lose their tenancy if they do.
DH thinks it will be fine and we should take a chance but I’m really not sure. Had anyone bought next to AH on a new build estate?

Apologies if I duplicate advice already provided I haven't read all of the replies to your post.

You will need to establish what the lettings policy is on the social housing if it is rented.
Who is letting it, is it the LA or a social housing provider. If its a provider do they have a local lettings agreement for the development with the LA?
Social housing can also be shared ownership, rent to buy etc. Are any of the plots these?

This will give you an idea of who your neighbour's will likely be.

If the LA have anything to do with it and its just the standard lettings policy you will probably end up with people who are classified as band 1 or 2, this could be people currently living in temporary accommodation, severley overcrowded, medical need etc

How many bedrooms do the houses have? If they are family sized houses you they will let according to bedroom need. If they are 1 bedroom then thats where alarm bells would ring for me. As this will likely be single people living in temporary accommodation, in my LA this would result in a high number of single males who have recently been given right to remain in the UK who are currently residing in hotels at a high cost to the LA.

In my LA all new build social housing to rent although owned by a social hosuing provider comes through the LA and is let according to the standard lettings policy, its only when the first tenant moves on that the social housing provider can let the property using their own policy which includes working people having a higher priority.

In my previous job I was a service lead for policy and strategy in housing. My advice would always be to read the policy and dont trust a word a developer says!

They usually house the tenants that have been 'removed ' from other social housing onto new social housing estates because they've got to go somewhere and the councils have a responsibility towards them if they have children/are vulnerable (drug addicts are classed as vulnerable and ill)etc. After covid there was a new social housing estate built about a mile from us. Houses and flats. They look really nice as you drive through apart from the smashed windows , crack heads and police carting them off. It's a shame because you can see most of the tenants are keeping the houses and flats lovely. It takes ages and a lot of legal action to get trouble makers evicted or moved as they've got to go somewhere. The housing area is attracting addicts, dealers and homeless addicts causing crime in the local shops and areas.

I live on aedium sizes estate where there are mainly 3/4/5 bed owned houses that are at the higher end of the local are in price but there are also a row of HA homes and another of shared ownership type ones..zero issues at all with them and our neighbours in them and we have been here 6 years however shortly after we moved in there was a drugs raid at the v posh looking 5 bed owned house opposite and the whole family who were there moved/disappeared and then during COVID another neighbour in an owned house had multiple affairs and there was a big fight...so it's the private ownership bit that's been the most wild!!!

I live opposite HA flats, and we have no trouble at all. One woman has a dog that she lets bark on her balcony, which occasionally annoys, but then I've also lived in a very salubrious village in Norfolk where one of the uber-wealthy types used to rev his car's engines for a good ten minutes early on Sunday mornings. Our HA neighbours seem to be respectful and quiet - but then they are one/two bedroomed flats so no large families, which might help.

I’m probably biased as I’ve always lived on council estates and I’m happy on them.

You say 50 homes will be HA - how many in total?

I can understand your concern if 50 out of 60 homes are SH but if it’s 50 out of 150 then I do not see your concern.

You are just as likely to have issues living next to homeowners - who have every right to stay put, rather than a tenant who you can complain about and they risk getting moved/ kicked out.
Of course there is always the risk of people with MH problems etc to be housed in SH.

These SH tenants are all trouble making scroungers threads are so fucking tedious.

Im not sure if it’s slightly different but I’ve lived in my house on a 15 year old estate for 5 years. It’s a mixture of privately owned houses with HA properties interspersed throughout the development. It’s the most peaceful, safe and lovely place I’ve ever lived.

ANOTHER social housing bashing thread.

le sigh. 🙄

Do you also find that the shortage of housing also means that there is less of a social mix with predominantly the most desperate, troubled, chaotic families having a high enough banding to be housed?

Excluding the single people aged 18-55 who, in our area are usually left to sleep on the streets or burden someone vulnerable.

My parents have had no issues on their new build estate. We have no idea which houses are social housing.

Not very original is it?

They are aren't they? Coming in several times a week now So tiresome... 🙄

'Social housing is free' will be posted in a minute.

Nope. Just utterly tiresome too.

We live in on a mixed estate spread across 2 phases.

phase 1 the larger one has had one particular idiot of a Tennant who has now been evicted.

phase 2 smaller, nothing that would raise alarm bells.

this is circa 400 houses in a very affluent area.

Yep. All druggies, 6 kids, Staffies, blah,blah,blah.

My (now) Husband bought a new build in a mixed estate some years ago.

He did not know when buying that it was mixed.

Within two years it was like two different worlds. The private side was as-new, with neatly kept gardens, well-maintained houses and so on.

The social housing side was like a war zone. Burnt mattresses in the street, half disassembled cars leaking oil, sofas rotting in gardens, police siesta being called, graffiti and broken windows.

And raking in £4000 a month in benefits. 🙄 The people bashing social housing tenants always know the exact income of the people they are bashing!

🙄

Yeah right.

Innit.

And I just love how a poster accepted and promoted that home ownership was a social marker without questioning the rights or wrongs of that.

Critical thinking is at an all time low.

Absolutely not, im mentally scared from the torment my SH neighbours have given me (3 different sents in the same house over 10 years). I had a complete mental breakdown and still havent recovered

I'm not a snob. I grew up next to a housing estate in the 80s where it genuinelywas as stereotypical as it could get. I also however live on a new build estate where there is intermingled social housing. For the most part, everyone looks after their property (owned or otherwise) and respects their neighbours. However, there ARE pockets of trouble and however much of a minority it might be. Trouble makers are shits. They throw stuff at cars. Scout houses to burgle. Torment pets. Play music and run riot til god knows what tine. Are all social housing tenants scum? Of course not. No amount of high horse riding will change the fact that some families within the state system are atrocious neighbours. Given the discount and incentives, I'd steer clear.

Don't do it. You could be stuck there unable to sell it

And some home owners are shits too.

There's a new 80 home estate been built in our village, and there are around 16 social housing in total. Needless to say there's already complaints about anti social behaviour and the mess outside some of them is horrendous. Clearly the housing association don't do regular inspections.

There are already 6 back on the market.... I can't understand how council planners think that people spending £550k on a house want a row of social housing directly opposite them.

I'd add that I grew up in a council house that my Mum kept immaculate.