New build on a new estate and social housing. I expect I’ll get torn to shreds but can I have your experiences please?

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We are looking at buying the last house on a street that backs on to an area of the new estate that will be 50 plus houses owned by a housing association.
The house will be a real bargain, they are throwing all sorts of incentives in as I’m sure they want it sold asap as it will be ready in about 6 weeks time.
The sales advisor explained that the tenants will all be working and they won’t be misbehaving as they will lose their tenancy if they do.
DH thinks it will be fine and we should take a chance but I’m really not sure. Had anyone bought next to AH on a new build estate?

Our estate is houses around £300-500k
those that live by the SH have pils of rubbish and noir and get attacked by unleashed dogs. Council do nothing and people are scared to even post on the Facebook group now for the estate. The do nothing. Just kick off even more when the rspca are called or the police.

But actually the local drug dealer who’s had his door kicked in by the police seems the nicest out of the lot and doesn’t see to cause a nuisance apart from the state of the garden.

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Surely to goodness if you did actually work in social housing you must know that not all tenants are unemployed, and badly behaved, and with 'severe problems.' Maybe some areas have more issues than others, but many areas that contain social housing are generally fine.

As I said, many people who rent social housing are good decent people who pay their own rent, have a job, (or are retired,) and look after the place as if it's their own property. And even those who don't work - because they're a stay at home mum or disabled behave perfectly well too. They pretty much all mind their own business and live peacefully amongst their neighbours. This 'Jeremy Kyle' type of person that some posters are portraying are the exception to the rule.

As a pp said, all new housing estates now HAVE to have some social housing in them, (at least 10%!) so all the snobs can get down off their high horse, because the likelihood is that Julie who lives opposite you is GASP! 😱 RENTING HER HOUSE!!!

MANY people are renting that you don't know about, because guess what, most people who rent are not badly behaved scumbags! They are as good as people who are homeowners. (Some are better!)

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Mostly it is fine, the police are only here two or three times a year for knife possession and drugs

Gosh some people’s bar is very low.

Do not do it. I live very close to such an estate and it's horrendous. Unbelievable behaviour.

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pils of rubbish and noir

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Undoubtedly, I don’t think anyone is disputing the decency of many social housing tenants but the fact remains there is a growing minority who are sadly not. It is no coincidence that the areas with the highest crime rates are often areas with higher density of SH. Pleased to hear your area bucks that trend.

I'd say about 50 % of home owners and private renters are okay. The rest are arseholes.

Also no people on our estate have been removed. We've basically been reliably informed that unless they try and burn the house down or comvicted of a crime that affects the neighbours then they won't be removed

Think about who you will sell to when the time comes.

Why should housing association tenants be a problem? They will mostly be young couples or small families who are in social housing because they are on low wages - which is no crime (except of the employers and the idiot politicians who provide welfare for businesses so they can keep their wage bill low).
But I wouldn't buy a new build. Get something solid and Victorian in a community that already exists.

I’m an HA tenant and lived in my property for a very long time. Houses either side of me are private rental flats and many of the tenants have been awful. Noisy, shouting and loud music belting through the walls, parties every weekend in the garden, tenants pissing in said garden when drunk, stinking everywhere. Rubbish strewn out the front and so on. Several of them have been evicted for their behaviour. I hardly know my HA neighbours are there by comparison. I am sure there are some awful social housing tenants but the majority just want to get on with their lives peacefully.

I live in a small development of SH. Most of the gardens are full of rubbish, hardly anyone keeps their homes looking nice.

I thought exactly this when I read that post 😂

But a housing association estate was built right behind our house a couple of years after we bought it. It’s now a lovely estate, the vast majority of gardens are well kept, it’s lovely to walk through and see and hear all the kids playing out in the evenings (much better than them being holed up on screens), and most of the kids are very polite - stopping their bikes to let our nervous dog walk past, asking if they can stroke the dog, plenty of manners.

I do slightly side eye that they all almost have nicer/more expensive cars in the drive than I can afford on a six figure salary, but I imagine that’s because my money goes on a mortgage and they don’t have that luxury.

ETA: we have had one police incident actually where a probably 3 and 5 year old in pyjamas walked into the local shop and shoplifted then almost got run over crossing the road and the police came asking for CCTV. It was quite concerning as the kids were obviously not safe and possibly starving - but that seems to have been a one off.

Yep.

I was housed in social housing just a year ago after only a month of waiting as dire straits described my situation very well to the point I shot up to the top of band A and got the first house I bid on.

My crime is simply having a disabled son and previously living in a private rental that wasn't suitable for his needs.

Weirdly, I'm the same person I was when I lived in a private rental and haven't suddenly had the urge to turn to knife crime or burn mattresses.

Trouble is, if you're hesitating now, with it all looking spangly and shiny, and empty... Imagine the hesitation of a potential buyer of your house in 3, 5, or 10/20 years time...

i have always wondered tho, why? I mean, if I had £8-900k for a house I wouldn’t buy on a new build estate I’d go for “non-estate” most definately.

@Besidemyselfwithworry I would too, but I think some people are very much attracted to the look of new builds, also the developers tend to build in convenient locations to lure people in, just like with shared ownership properties. A freehold house not in an estate and in an area that is at least average is always the way to go if you can afford it.

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Honestly, I wouldn’t. And I live in social housing (in an older house, not on an estate).

In a nearby town they built a new build estate over 10 years ago and most of it was social housing, there have been endless problems there according to the local Facebook pages. Lots of crime and antisocial behaviour. Not helped by the fact that they shipped a load of ‘problem’ tenants in when it was first built, as there was nowhere else for them to go. There is no man or god that would make me go and live there.

In my town there is a new build estate which is part HA, part privately owned (and the houses aren’t cheap). It’s generally pretty obvious which houses are which - the HA ones have a load of crap dumped out the front, gardens unkempt etc. It seems to have got steadily worse over the years. I was just saying to DD yesterday that I’d be really cheesed off if I’d bought one of those houses.