The all new buyers/sellers waiting room (9) the one where we start to wonder if we'll move by Christmas..

[NeverGoingToMove]

Huge apologies if I have missed this thread, I have searched high and low but don't think another was started after number 8 ended in May.

After a seriously stressful encounter with building control, I think we are almost ready to exchange. After going on the market last July, I'm hoping we'll move before our year anniversary!

How is everyone else doing?

@VimtoQueen90 that's crazy isn't it? But surely if you were a little confused about what happens now you would just ask?? 🤔I would be asking questions 'do I need to do anything now?' 'What about my mortgage?' etc and get some guidance but at the very least the EA should be making sure the sale is progressing. Waiting on someone else is THE most frustrating and irritating thing about this whole process. FFS, just get on with it!!! 😠

@ErlingHaalandsManBun It's so baffling, you'd just ask wouldn't you! I hate the waiting and depending on someone else so much! They said she still very much wants the house which at least is reassuring cos I was worried it was possibly a slow ghosting! 😬

Well, we have issued an ultimatum this morning. Progress this sale or we are out! No game playing either, we mean it. We are just SO done with the fact we seem no further forward than we did 4 months ago and we have got to a point that we no longer care. Which is sad because we were so excited to move and start our new chapter. But for now, it looks as though that new chapter will be put on hold. We are not even going straight back on the market, we are just going to take a break from it as it has been physically and emotionally draining!!

@ErlingHaalandsManBun I am sorry to hear this I really hope it makes them take action and your sale can progress. It sounds like you have a plan for if not and if they don’t want to get sorted and buy your house then best know now that be messed around any longer. Keep us posted with how it goes.

@ErlingHaalandsManBun oh that’s so sad I’m sorry it’s come to an ultimatum like this, I hope this gives them the kick up the arse they need! It’s grossly unfair that people are just allowed to do whatever they want in regards to house sales. Keep us posted? We have two viewings this weekend and I’ve spent all day cleaning and I’m exhausted. I’m at the point where I don’t even care what the outcome is. I love our house here and I’m going to enjoy every minute we have here, I’m questioning it all after all this!

Thank you. Sadly I don't think it will progress things further but we just feel done. We definitely don't want to be messed around any longer so we need to just put a stop to this for our own sanity. We are fortunate that we don't have to move, we just want to. We actually LOVE our house and where we live but we do feel ready for a change. So its not the end of the World. We just need to wait a little longer for that next chapter.

Thank you. It is a bit sad that it seems to be over. I really don't think our ultimatum will make any difference. Strangely I feel okay about it. Much like you we adore our house and we love where we live. We just felt ready for a change so we are lucky really in that we don't have to move, we just want to. We have even questioned ourselves whether moving right now is the right thing for us so maybe its done us a favour in the long run.

Good Luck with your viewings. I hope you get some luck. I hated the viewing stages, so much work keeping the house spotless constantly and having people trapsing through your house.

Do you do the viewings yourself or do the agents do them? Keep us posted how they go.

@ErlingHaalandsManBun it sounds like it might be a blessing in disguise really. It’s great that you love your house and have no urgent need to move. I guess as they say everything happens for a reason and you may get a better buyer and a better house next time. Keep us posted and take care of yourself too.

@ErlingHaalandsManBun any news off them yet? I know it sounds silly but the frame of mind I’m in right now I’m not worrying about the viewings or getting worked up, what will be will be on this horrible journey!

So, update, they came back to us this morning saying they were really upset to have been issued an ultimatum. They really want to buy our house, they love it and really want to move here.

Then in the next paragraph are setting out the terms they need to be able to move forward. Some stuff we have ALREADY told them is not possible because we don't have grounds to apply for adverse possession. I mean, honestly, its a joke. They are also not accepting the indemnity policy for the easement of access and want to apply for Implied Easement. Again, we have already told them we can't apply for that because the issue is not the same and you are not trying to get access over someone elses land, which is what Implied Easement is for. Honestly we just feel this issue will never come to an end. They seem to want something that is impossible to get but don't seem to be willing to accept that there isn't something else they can do.

DH is in the process of emailing back now to say, once again, accept what is on the table that we are willing to do, and that we CAN do, or not. Balls is in their court.

We are just flabbergasted that the SAME issues keep being raised. Its exhausting, it honestly is. It feels we just can't get them to commit to moving forwards. 🙄

@ErlingHaalandsManBun it sounds like they want the house but not the access/land situation. I cannot comprehend how people think they can change something so fundamental to suit themselves when it affects others too! I hope they give in and accept it is how it is. But if not really it’s not the house for them so they might as well pull out and leave you in peace to regroup. Hope you manage to have a nice weekend while waiting for answers.
I hate waiting. We are still waiting on our buyers solicitor to get back to either our solicitor or the estate agent re dates. I don’t care which I just want an answer!

@moving300m exactly that!!!! They love the house, the garden, the outbuildings but don't like that the access road is unregistered and they don't like that the ancient title deeds are slightly out and doesn't exactly reflect what is being sold. Even though it really is marginal. Honestly the access road is NOT an issue, never has been (even well before we moved here), never will be. But for some reason they have a real bee in their bonnet over it. I get it. But we have put an indemnity policy in place for it, even though it really is unnecessary, but we have done it because they wanted one and it made them feel better about it, as well as changing the ancient title for them to reflect reality. But still it doesn't appear to be enough. But the reality is there is NOTHING more we can do to alter things or make things better but they are just constantly stalling.

Like you say, if they can't accept the house and land as it is, then its not the house for them. We haven't heard any more from them today and can only assume they want the weekend to think about how much they want the house. Either way, we don't much care as we will be pulling out ourselves if they don't commit soon. If they can't decide we will do it for them. We have been SO patient with them and so willing to do whatever they need (that we CAN do) to help them feel better about what they are buying.

They also have said that they won't be booking a survey until any applications have gone in to Land Registry. I mean, WHY? That bugs me too. The survey can be going on while all that work is being done and SAVE TIME!! Urrrrgggghhh, I am so done. Honestly I have so many times wanted to just walk away from this. I just don't get other people! 😂

How long have you been waiting for your buyers solicitor about dates? I mean, it can't be THAT hard can it to just talk with your buyer and then throw some date suggestions around? The waiting is awful!!! Hope you get some answers early next week.

@ErlingHaalandsManBun you sound like you’ve got to a place where pulling out is a real option that may save your sanity. It’s a shame but hopefully if they do pull out when you’re ready to go again you will get a better house and it will be easy, simply like it’s just meant to be. Maybe a lot of wishful thinking going on here 😂
We’ve been waiting at least two weeks maybe three. They were chased again this week. Really want to exchange the week after next so gone from loads of time to tick tock tick tock! Either yes those dates are ok or no they’re not. It’s not hard.
Try and have a nice weekend and don’t stress too much.

@moving300m 2 weeks is too long. That is mental. What the hell is there to decide at this stage. Dates, that is it! How hard can it be to sort out an agreeable date with everyone? Its so frustrating isn't it? At this stage all you can do is keep putting the pressure on. It feels like you are so close, yet so far at the same time.
Hope you have a good weekend too.🙂

So my chain collapsed today after 6 months - my buyer was selling a flat which needed a DOV on the ground rent, which was refused by the company. It makes all the flats in his block un-mortgageable. How it took six months to get to this point is another question. Meanwhile unbeknownst to me my Vendor has put her house back on the market. Start again Monday as house goes back on RM. So at least I know I wont be moving before Xmas as even with a quick sale - the conveyancing will take 4 months. Time for a holiday!

So it’s September and we really need to get some dates sorted. Even my estate agent is starting to seem twitchy that something doesn’t quite add up. I’ll be starting with daily emails and harassing people I think to try and get some answers. How is everyone else getting on?

Ugh I’m so glad this thread is here but so sorry to read everyone’s having such a shit time of it. So sorry to hear about your chain @Gunz - it’s insane it took so long for them to find that out about the flats! Six months!

Our solicitor apparently hadn’t started the reports they said they had started. They were concerned out our chain, and if it collapsed then they’d have had to charge us again on a new place. It was a very wish washy email that seemed like it was trying to pass it off as doing us a favour in not starting the reports, when in reality shouldn’t it have been up to us to decide if we wanted to risk paying for the reports and have them sooner? And surely the chain could collapse at any time and that always would be the case that we’re risking paying for something we don’t end up using? It’s all flannel.

@moving300m it's nervy isn't it when everything seems to have stalled and nothing is happening. Makes you wonder what the hold up is and if there is something else going on you are not being told about. Definitely daily nagging from now until exchange!! I hope you get somewhere today.

As for us, we heard back from our buyers who are just all confused and are not even sure what needs doing and what doesn't as far as our house and title go. Their solicitor has NO knowledge of these old cottages and the set ups so has just been getting them to do everything. But even they are starting to question now what is what. So, we have decided, amongst us all, that we will seek independent advice from a local solicitors firm who has a specialist in Land and get them to review everything and tell us what needs to be done, what doesn't and recommendations. We will then go from there. We wiil get the recommendation issues sorted regardless of whether our buyers are in or out as it will be beneficial to us next time we sell.

DH and I also decided on getting our own Level 3 survey done on our own house. That way we will know if there are any issues and will deal with anything that comes up as urgent (if anything does) We don't care about the cost we are NOT waiting for them to get one and then start throwing issues at us from that. At least, having had our own survey done, we can push back if we need to and feel confident about it. We have taken back control of our own sale and we feel bloody good about it.

Our buyers seem keen to sit in this with us and they still want to buy so who knows where this will go. If they want to buy we will still sell to them once this has been done, if not we will take a break and then go back on the market in the New Year.

@ErlingHaalandsManBun it sounds like you have a really solid plan. When our buyers were messing around over a survey I was wondering whether to get my own. The Scottish system is so much better. You know what you’re buying and any potential issues before putting in an offer as the seller gets the home report done before listing the property.
I haven’t heard anything yet so patiently twiddling my thumbs trying to concentrate on work!
I hope the independent solicitors helps to keep your sale on track and you can start moving forwards 🤞

You sound really sensible! The plan you have seems to be a good one, and maybe the buyers will be a bit easier to work with if they have solicitors that have a bit more experience with older houses.
We made our offer two and a half months ago, and we're lucky in that there is no chain- probate property (probate was granted ages ago) and no chain on our side. Mortgage all ready to go. We're getting a survey done next week (have waited AGES for this) and the sellers have been so slow in filling out paperwork, I was getting antsy- but my solicitor has just been in touch to say they've finally sent things out.
I find the whole process really emotional and quite hard, though I know how privileged we are to be in this position! We'll be moving to a new area (where I grew up, roughly) and there are a lot of other changes in life happening simultaneously. All of them positive, but aaaah, I'd be lying if I didn't say it is overwhelming at times. I think about the new house all the time. DP and I are constantly on about it. It feels like we're already living there in a way; It would be really odd and awful if it didn't happen now! And I know that it's always a possibility that something goes wrong.

@moving300m we feel we are making the best positive steps to move forwards with selling our house. Whether it be to our current buyers, or at a later date. We have never been in a massive rush to sell. We love our current house but we want to move to live nearer the sea. So its always been a want rather than a need. So we are lucky in that respect. Whether this current sale proceeds, or we go again next year, at least we are happy with the decisions we have made.

I really hope you get some news today. It is horrible waiting!!

Keep us posted.

@KimHwn thanks. Its the first time I have been called sensible in quite some time 😂We feel much happier, and funnily enough so do our buyers, now we have decided to get this local solicitor involved. Hopefully this will help to resolve things once and for all and we can all move forwards.

Your purchase seems to be plodding along nicely and at a good pace. The whole process IS an emotional time, even if its something you really want. Change is overwhelming and with a house sale there is always that doubt and fear involved that something, somewhere might go wrong. It is a stressful time. But I am sure it will all come good for you in the end. You seem like you have mentally moved in already.

Can I join in?

We’ve been on a hell of a ride. Been trying to move since October last year. Chain fell apart twice, then we lost a house because vendors decided not to sell, so we broke the chain and moved into rental, then the next house we tried to buy came back with subsidence issues. We found out the day before we completed on our house sale. Heartbreaking.

Anyway, now we are in the world’s tiniest 3 bed rental tripping over each other constantly. We finally found a house that was perfect a month ago, but at the moment the vendors haven’t found a house to buy and I’m finding it quite stressful. The market is very strange where we are buying - very little coming on the market and a lot of houses that have been on for 18+ months. Clearly a lot of sales falling through as the same stuff keeps coming back on after 4/5/6 months.

Not sure if we should do anything to encourage vendors on - the house is a dream house for us, not quite the location we’d preferred, but I adore the house and don’t want to lose it, having lost 3 already!

@OrwellianTimes oh my god what an absolute roller coaster of a ride you have been on! You seem to have had some absolutely awful luck.

I am pleased you have found another house you love that is perfect though so maybe one day you will look back on this whole saga and be pleased the others fell through. That is how I tend to try and look at things anyway. The other houses were not meant to be.

I'm sure you will be stressed now as you wait for your vendors to find somewhere and hope they don't take too long. But when you have been through a bad experience (or two) then its difficult not to feel wary and anxious when you know that the worst can happen, because it already has.

Our last house, we sold it three times and each one fell through, through no fault of our own, one the day before completion so I know how you are feeling now. Hopefully this one is it though. Keeping everything crossed for you.

@ErlingHaalandsManBun I love how practical you’re being and am really hoping that it now all works out for you.

@OrwellianTimes wow you have been through it. I really hope this time works out for you. I guess other than regularly checking in with the estate agent not a lot you can do to force the vendors to pick a house! This whole process is so annoying and stressful.

Im still waiting …