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Tea and sympathy thread - whinge about your home without asking for advice

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KievLoverTwo · 12/10/2023 22:16

Roll up, roll up. Sit in a comfy patio chair and help yourself to tea and scones. Due to political divides, it's deconstructed, so you can choose if jam or cream goes first. Gluten free scones are also available.

This is a place to whinge. Get it all off your chest.

Feedback and constructive advice is not necessary, but if you would like it, feel free to ask.

I will begin.

I don't want any advice because I rent and I am very limited with the number of f**ks I can be bothered to give in my rental after so many problems; it's a Tesco value house dressed up as a very fancy new farmhouse and it never ceases to go wrong.

Can't remember the last time I tried Tesco Value, so don't hold that against me.

I will begin.

On Monday a farmer took down the phone line and we now have no internet. I live on a farm. My landlady chose not to tell me, even though she knows my other half makes his living working from home, relying on the internet. I should probably add we are 100 metres from it and she is back and forth all the time and extremely responsive to most things I tell her about. There has been a silage run since Sunday and clearly a tractor has taken it out (muddy, slippery and wet), but she decided, for whatever reason, that it didn't warrant warning us about. That line supplies us and them and no one else.

The ensuite bathroom literally smells like a sewer and has done for a few months. Trying to problem fix is not working. Sometimes it gets so bad that it smells on half of the floor.

Again with silage, she had the courtesy to call me this time because the time before last I completely lost my shit when it got to 6am - the silage run with trucks over a speed bump kept my OH awake til 3.30am two nights this week. She asks them to slow down over the speed bump but the thumps still thump. We are quite reasonable, we have only requested they slow down over midnight. It seems most of their tractor and truck combos cannot or will not do it.

The time before this with the overnight silage run, my OH lost his diplomacy with a work colleague and the following day was sacked from a project and told there is now very little hope of him being promoted this year. Worthy of noting is he is autistic and doesn't communicate all that well, sleeps terribly when there are disturbances, but this 'we will promote you' has been going on for a considerable amount of time before they decided to cut him off after he was too direct with a colleague. I don't think he was outrageous, but American culture is very different to ours. I am convinced it's the constant stress of the home we are in that causes anxiety spikes which is holding his career back.

This morning I woke up to the OH slamming all the things because the heating and HW broke. She sent her man round (kudos, within 2.5 hours) but he doesn't know what caused it, he tested the two blown fuses but has no idea what caused it. This is the guy who installed the electrics when the houses was built. Everything goes wrong with this house. That he didn't know what is causing it is far from a suprise because all of the utilities infrastructure is absolutely shit. Which he partly installed.

We have been together five years and been through some absolutely horrific rows that I would truly cringe at if I was a fly on a wall. I have never seen him as angry as he was when he told me about the heating and HW this morning. Genuinely thought he was going to put his fist through the wall, usually that's my schtick, so it was quite shocking to witness that.

We've been slowly building up covering all parts of the houses with various blocking things because we have a constant plague of flies. Today it failed and we had a house full of them again. They get in through window cracks, extractors, sink overflows - it's so fucking tiresome. Don't even think about telling me 'they'll be gone in winter' - the only fly free month we had last year was January, and I think that was more like 2-3 weeks.

I could go on but I think that's enough for now.

We moved to a farm because we had literally no other choice last year. It's not as though I thought it would be all sweetness and bird song and had no idea what it would involve. I certainly didn't expect every flying thing to get in with every window and door closed or the constant... just.. constant shit.

Did I mention we have a silage (shit pit) 100m away? Funny they never mentioned that at the viewing. It's 40/60 whether the house and area will smell like a toilet, all year round.

Rant done.

Your turn.

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 12:56

Queenofmews · 13/10/2023 11:40

Thank you for this thread. It is making me feel marginally better.
My neighbour is unhinged and has done all sorts of horrible things to both his next door neighbours causing damage, being irrationally nasty, trying to grab land, trying to intimidate us plus neglecting his poor dog.
I would happily pay his removal costs and legal fees if he would move.
I love my home but it is ruined by his behaviour and I feel unsafe a lot of the time.
BTW I lived next door to a farm years ago in a tiny hamlet and the flies were unbelievable. The farmer would happily run me off the road with the tractor and sprayed slurry on to my garden. Their poor cats had kittens upon kittens who were sick and starved. Then one day they decided to slaughter a pig in front of my kitchen window.
I found out later that they hated me because I had unknowingly bought a property which had been part of a family dispute.
I was so happy when I moved away.

I am so sorry you have been saddled with a nasty spiteful neighbour and then an unhinged one.

Would jumping out at him at night and shouting 'boo!' help, or is he too young to have a dicky heart?

My LL who was the original farmer is really lovely, her son a bit more standand offish but quite cordial really. I can't imagine anyone who works for them behaving the way they did towards you :(

Property and money make some people horribly unpleasant.

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 13:00

Tiredclinpsych · 12/10/2023 23:54

Big patches of my 1950s parquet flooring decided to part company with the floor underneath and rise and buckle. Now we have bits with blocks missing where we had to take them out to get the floor to bloody lie down and patches which are loose and bouncy.
The blocks are super hard wood and almost impossible to sand smaller.

I'm assuming it's climate change and I realise Icould be living somewhere where the impact on my everyday life is devastating.

We are having new windows fitted and it is running into months. The house has scaffolding up and a charming mix of old and new windows. They ordered the wrong sills apparently and are waiting fir the new ones.

When the scaffolding company was here the man in charge drank Stella with his sandwiches in the garden.

The rescue dog sneeks a piss upstairs and I've run out of carpet shampoo so used human shampoo in the spot washer yesterday so the carpet smells nice. Little wins 🤣

Sorry, but the rescue dog bit made me LOL, and I really needed that today.

I would kill to have a house with really old parquet flooring, it's been a fantasy of mine for about 25 years! The modern stuff really just doesn't compare imo.

I hope you are able to fix it.

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WickedSerious · 13/10/2023 13:02

KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 12:52

@WickedSerious wow, what a clown. You definitely need to get out of there for your mental health. Are house prices falling in your area?

They're still going up but nothing's moving at the moment and loads of properties(including one on our street)have been on the market for over a year.

Autumn1990 · 13/10/2023 13:04

its the infestations. The slugs and beetles were present when we moved in but we’ve had flies rats and mice since then. Constantly blocking holes up but there’s so many

WickedSerious · 13/10/2023 13:12

Autumn1990 · 13/10/2023 13:04

its the infestations. The slugs and beetles were present when we moved in but we’ve had flies rats and mice since then. Constantly blocking holes up but there’s so many

We had jackdaws in one of the bedrooms,it's got a fireplace and they kept falling down the chimney.
Waking up up to find one sitting on top of the wardrobe or perched on the curtain rail was an almost daily event.

AsBeautifulAsYou · 13/10/2023 13:21

Poor you.

Mine is very minor compared to yours. DH did some DIY last week which resulted in a Frank Spencer scenario with water leaking everywhere. It’s temp fixed but needs doing properly. I couldn’t get anyone to restore the lovely stained glass window so had to have it removed, glass is saved and had a bloody upvc one put in, this seems especially churlish compared to your issues. But it did show a lack of skilled trades for especially old fashioned stuff.

We need to replace kitchen or get all new doors as many are past it.

LittleMy77 · 13/10/2023 13:22

Just had a gut renovation on our bathroom and a new full install done. Builders have been fab, and methodically fixing the shitshow from the last bunch of clowns we had in

However, we have a problem. New underfloor heating that was lovingly laid doesn’t work properly and the thermostat can’t read a proper temperature meaning it won’t turn off and is boiling, when on a timed schedule

The electrics have been tricky (altho we had underfloor heating in it prior to this so is using same lines) which they think us the issue. Electrician is proposing all sorts of batshit fixing ideas, including drilling thru the new floor to put a separate external thermostat in which I do not want. Why he just can’t strip all wiring back and replace current thermostat to try and find this issue is beyond us

Builder and him are at stalemate arguing, we can’t use the heating, it’s getting cold and i’m bloody annoyed!

Seagrassbasket · 13/10/2023 13:29

Just had roofers round to replace the guttering and they’ve found rotten felt and that the tiles apparently don’t overhang enough. Looking round the street it’s true everyone’s soffits are either rotten or stained. The felts ripped in places where we were getting water through the ceiling last year in the big snow, we thought it was cos the insulation was all moved about from the rewire and there was loads and loads of condensation up there. But apparently not.

The mortgage survey and specific roof survey we paid for before we bought it 2 years ago did not pick any of this up.

They’ve quoted anywhere between 2-9k depending on what level of fix we want.

We do not have 2k.

WickedSerious · 13/10/2023 13:46

Seagrassbasket · 13/10/2023 13:29

Just had roofers round to replace the guttering and they’ve found rotten felt and that the tiles apparently don’t overhang enough. Looking round the street it’s true everyone’s soffits are either rotten or stained. The felts ripped in places where we were getting water through the ceiling last year in the big snow, we thought it was cos the insulation was all moved about from the rewire and there was loads and loads of condensation up there. But apparently not.

The mortgage survey and specific roof survey we paid for before we bought it 2 years ago did not pick any of this up.

They’ve quoted anywhere between 2-9k depending on what level of fix we want.

We do not have 2k.

We had one section of our main roof replaced in 2013,when it was damaged by the extension roof being ripped off in 80mph winds.
It'll cost at least 10k to get the other sections done but we can't find anyone willing to do it.

Giggorata · 13/10/2023 13:48

My trouble seem few compared to some of you, and you do have my deepest sympathy.

We bought a fixer upper and did a certain amount about thirty years ago, to make it weatherproof (ish) and safe.
Now, more work is needed to keep on top of it. I don't think we can afford to get it all done, even if we could find a builder who would a) turn up and b) finish a job.
I am still waiting for three sets of cupboard doors to be done, to finish off in my hallway, plus a curtain rail.
There is a lake in the drive every time it rains. The conservatory roof leaks, not just water, but also insects, birds and once, a rat.
I need a porch on the back door to conserve heat and house coats, boots, etc.

There's more, but I'm too depressed to write it.
I'm in my late sixties and genuinely fear that I might die before it's all done.

HerculesMulligan · 13/10/2023 14:04

At least then it'll be someone else's problem, @Giggorata .

KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:04

Giggorata · 13/10/2023 13:48

My trouble seem few compared to some of you, and you do have my deepest sympathy.

We bought a fixer upper and did a certain amount about thirty years ago, to make it weatherproof (ish) and safe.
Now, more work is needed to keep on top of it. I don't think we can afford to get it all done, even if we could find a builder who would a) turn up and b) finish a job.
I am still waiting for three sets of cupboard doors to be done, to finish off in my hallway, plus a curtain rail.
There is a lake in the drive every time it rains. The conservatory roof leaks, not just water, but also insects, birds and once, a rat.
I need a porch on the back door to conserve heat and house coats, boots, etc.

There's more, but I'm too depressed to write it.
I'm in my late sixties and genuinely fear that I might die before it's all done.

Your complaint is just as valid as anyone else's. It breaks my heart that people approaching retirement age have to have their savings decimated by poor quality housing stock.

I find it quite baffling really. We got final salary pensions taking away from us so people have to sink all their spare cash into not living on the poverty line aged 65 plus, and there's so little left to keep a fit for purpose roof over your heads :(

You absolutely have my sympathy.

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:09

Autumn1990 · 13/10/2023 13:04

its the infestations. The slugs and beetles were present when we moved in but we’ve had flies rats and mice since then. Constantly blocking holes up but there’s so many

We had slugs in the old house. They were coming in through the air bricks.

The mice were really hard to get rid of in an old flat.

Idk if I could survive in a house that rats get into :,(

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:11

Seagrassbasket · 13/10/2023 13:29

Just had roofers round to replace the guttering and they’ve found rotten felt and that the tiles apparently don’t overhang enough. Looking round the street it’s true everyone’s soffits are either rotten or stained. The felts ripped in places where we were getting water through the ceiling last year in the big snow, we thought it was cos the insulation was all moved about from the rewire and there was loads and loads of condensation up there. But apparently not.

The mortgage survey and specific roof survey we paid for before we bought it 2 years ago did not pick any of this up.

They’ve quoted anywhere between 2-9k depending on what level of fix we want.

We do not have 2k.

How on earth could a roof survey miss that if it can even been seen from the street?

OO

I would be smalls claims courting their incompetent arses

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:15

WickedSerious · 13/10/2023 13:12

We had jackdaws in one of the bedrooms,it's got a fireplace and they kept falling down the chimney.
Waking up up to find one sitting on top of the wardrobe or perched on the curtain rail was an almost daily event.

Sounds like you were living in an Alfred Hitchcock film.

Were the cowls too low?

We had a bunch of blackbirds in summer because ours are.

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:18

AsBeautifulAsYou · 13/10/2023 13:21

Poor you.

Mine is very minor compared to yours. DH did some DIY last week which resulted in a Frank Spencer scenario with water leaking everywhere. It’s temp fixed but needs doing properly. I couldn’t get anyone to restore the lovely stained glass window so had to have it removed, glass is saved and had a bloody upvc one put in, this seems especially churlish compared to your issues. But it did show a lack of skilled trades for especially old fashioned stuff.

We need to replace kitchen or get all new doors as many are past it.

Every issue is valid!

It would break my heart having to replace beautiful original stained glass with dull UPVC.

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:21

PissedOffNeighbour22 · 13/10/2023 01:09

I've complained many times about my house on here but I still hate the bastard place and can't wait until we can afford to finish renovating and sell it.

What pisses me off most is the people we bought it from were obviously well off and even had a several page spread printed in the estate agent's magazine about how much they loved the place and how they'd lovingly restored it. Load of bollocks as we found out when trying to fix all the bodges they did.

Discovered there was no drainage, so all the drainpipes (except one) drain against the house (which has no foundations as it's old).

Leak under sink - fixed by cutting a hole in the floor and filling it with sand to soak up the excess water.

Rotten floorboards in kitchen due to aforementioned lack of drainage - attempted fix was shoving towels in to soak up the water which then became so waterlogged that they made it worse.

Cracks in the wall so deep I'm surprised we can't see daylight through them. All carefully hidden behind large pieces of furniture when we viewed.

Deep cracks in render and stone on front of house - we may need to replace the lintels. Ivy had been grown in those areas to cover it up.

Piss soaked floorboards. Dog grease holding the kitchen cupboards together.

Mouse infestation - they stated on the forms that there had never been an issue with rodents 😑. I found a dead one in a kitchen cupboard the day we moved in and had to have to council out multiple times to do pest control.

Plastered over the top of wallpaper so it hasn't adhered properly.

Shite layout of the extension. It just doesn't work at all and isn't a surprise they tried to sell up soon after building it.

Wooden windows that have been made without the ability to be opened.

Cut holes for cat flaps into the Victorian internal doors.

Most of the bragged about 'original features' have turned out to be reproduction. Cheaped out on of course.

There's loads more things that piss me off but to top it off we have a wanker neighbour attached that increases our hatred of the house.

Dog grease made me shudder.

When are you planning to move?

What you describe is obviously how the rich stay rich. Knowing that probably pees you off even more :(

I hope you get out soon.

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WickedSerious · 13/10/2023 14:24

KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:15

Sounds like you were living in an Alfred Hitchcock film.

Were the cowls too low?

We had a bunch of blackbirds in summer because ours are.

There was nothing on the chimney pot to stop them getting in,we put a cage on it when we had a builder in to take down the other chimney stack.

Lentilweaver · 13/10/2023 14:24

We have a dark wooden floor which is hell to clean and always looks messy. We plan to replace it eventually, but can't afford to, right now.

verdantverdure · 13/10/2023 14:25

I love our house but the Tories putting up our mortgage has brought a halt to our renovations and going into autumn and going into autumn we don't have heating.

I just had a tiny pang of anxiety about that this morning.

Will probably get the jumpers out this weekend. Eek.

verdantverdure · 13/10/2023 14:26

Dear god @PissedOffNeighbour22 ShockShockShockShock

KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:26

LittleMy77 · 13/10/2023 13:22

Just had a gut renovation on our bathroom and a new full install done. Builders have been fab, and methodically fixing the shitshow from the last bunch of clowns we had in

However, we have a problem. New underfloor heating that was lovingly laid doesn’t work properly and the thermostat can’t read a proper temperature meaning it won’t turn off and is boiling, when on a timed schedule

The electrics have been tricky (altho we had underfloor heating in it prior to this so is using same lines) which they think us the issue. Electrician is proposing all sorts of batshit fixing ideas, including drilling thru the new floor to put a separate external thermostat in which I do not want. Why he just can’t strip all wiring back and replace current thermostat to try and find this issue is beyond us

Builder and him are at stalemate arguing, we can’t use the heating, it’s getting cold and i’m bloody annoyed!

Maybe the two of them should stop thinking they know everything and start asking around their mates!

My mum is the only person I know who had problem free UFH. Goodness knows how she managed it, the foreman was drunk most of the time.

It's insane when it gets too hot. I couldn't stand in front of the cooker at one point.

I hope they come up with a more tolerable solution for you.

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ThePlantKiller · 13/10/2023 14:29

I should have moved out of this house in June. The week before this, the people we were meant to be buying from decided to take their house off the market and we had to stay as no spare cash to go into rented. We had tried for 11 months to sell up so we were so downhearted about it we just took the house off the market.
On the day that we should have moved, there was very heavy rain and our front gutter overflowed into the house due to a blocked gutter. Got it sorted, all good. Two months later we had to get the back gutter sorted as it wasn't sitting right and the rainwater was running down the wall. Today, I have noticed a leak from the same gutter so now need to get that fixed!
We decided last month to remarket, and our surveyor found woodworm in the loft which wasn;t there last year. So between these issues and the first house move falling through, we're about 5k out of pocket.
Oh, and we have a lot of stairs at the front of the house. It put a lot of people off when we were trying to sell. We have several viewings lined up for next week and one of the viewers is someone who came out to look at the house last year but she was put off because of the stairs!?? I'm in a foul mood today because of the new gutter issue so I've asked the EA to query whether this woman thinks the 26 stairs up to the front door have magically disappeared since last year....

KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:34

Lentilweaver · 13/10/2023 14:24

We have a dark wooden floor which is hell to clean and always looks messy. We plan to replace it eventually, but can't afford to, right now.

I see your one floor and raise you four!

My LL's cleaner used a bucketfull of bleach on all her floors, so we have an L shaped downstairs floor that equals about 700 sq ft of what is now completely porous and filthy sandstone flags. I have tried every product and device known to humanity. The only way to deal with it is to get it professionally cleaned then re-sealed at a cost of 2k :(

Then the downstairs shower room, nice tiles, also completely porous, luckily these are dark beige so are less of a problem.

Upstairs we have beautiful white porcelain tiles with no sealant left on the surface which now look absolutely minging, and as bonus, the house has moved so much that 80% of the mortar (err, wrong word?) is cracked. x2!

I am just boasting now, aren't I?

We also have a leaking bath. Just popping that in for good measure.

Not being able to have a clean floor is a constant irritant and you do have my sympathy.

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KievLoverTwo · 13/10/2023 14:40

@ThePlantKiller loving the anger induced passive aggressive last line of your post. I get the same. Drive my OH mad with it :(

I suppose people who don't have much choice have to consider previously dismissed houses? I hope she doesn't mess you around.

There are far worse things to have than a bunch of stairs, as evidenced on this thread!

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