poshometer

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Maybe useful

https://mapmaker.cdrc.ac.uk/#/index-of-multiple-deprivation?m=imdh19_dc&lon=-0.4177&lat=51.2526&zoom=9.2

Going on previous places I've lived and where I live now, I'd say this is pretty accurate.

Thanks for sharing, very helpful.

Brilliant thread title 😃

Gosh, so interesting! I'd say it's accurate for my surrounding areas.

I agree pretty accurate for places I have lived

I would say it's pretty accurate for the 2 cities I have worked in dealing with poverty as part of my own job.

Utterly pointless where I am. Our house is in a certain village, most of which is in the "least deprived" category (dark blue).

For no apparent reason three streets on one edge of the village - probably the poshest part of the village, with lovely big Victorian villas - have been lumped in with another area from which we're separated by a nature reserve, a canal, a motorway and a large hospital. So, apparently we live in an area that's in the second most deprived (bright red) category!

Take this data with a pinch bucket of salt.

same as above here our town its got a massive red streak running through most of the town with our part on the side in light yellow so not deprived but its skewed as most of the red area houses are victorian former mill workers back to backs, but a lot of them are owned or rented out so not big sink estates like it implies

Not at all accurate for London.

Not accurate at all for my local town, the estate with social housing is blue and the row with detached 3/5 bedroom period homes is yellow. Inverse. Very weird!

Looked at it for areas of different cities I've lived in, and although not accurate probably to street level, the general distribution is what I expected.

I was surprised by some areas with quite expensive housing being labelled as poor, then realised that although the people there probably had significant housing wealth, they had probably got that through living there a long time through a house price boom, rather than having high earnings.

I suspect the ability for someone to believe the map reflects reality is strongly correlated to whether it puts you in a posh area or not :)

Not particularly accurate in my small town.

It's a blunt instrument and gives an average picture across a defined area - enumeration district?

I've looked at two areas I know very well and whilst the general trend is accurate, the detail is not.

Indices of multiple deprivation include the following with weighting as shown:

• Income. (22.5%)
• Employment. (22.5%)
• Education. (13.5%)
• Health. (13.5%)
• Crime. (9.3%)
• Barriers to Housing and Services. (9.3%)
• Living Environment. (9.3%)

So, for example, an area with big houses, but elderly frail residents, a long way from a hospital with too few GP surgeries and a lot of break-ins might come up as quite deprived.

Ooh, very accurate for my area! I put in the three postcodes I've lived in in that area and I'd say the categorisation was bang on.

I am very confused about my local town, Newmarket. The area it says is the most deprived is the richest as has all the racing stables in. I wonder how they work it out. Also has the road where houses are at least £1m.

I suspect the ability for someone to believe the map reflects reality is strongly correlated to whether it puts you in a posh area or not :)

Or it simply relates to knowing areas well and knowing if the markings reflect realty.

It's based on lower super output areas, which is an attempt to split up the country into areas of approximately equal population size for the purposes of comparative statistical analysis. That's why the boundaries are a bit weird. One side of our street is among the most deprived, the other least. Same houses, but the boundary is down the middle of the road, and behind our side is social housing, behind the other predominantly owner occupied.

Maybe it's because horses don't fill out census forms or have earnings.

I didn't think stablehands were particularly well paid and if they live on site...

The money will probably be with the owners who will live somewhere else.

Bulk of the population are young Ill-to-no educated stable lads on low earnings?

Pretty bang on for the four places I have looked at although it doesn’t seem to be quite detailed enough to know about the differences between individual adjacent roads eg we have one cul de sac near us that is very rough and that is coming up the same as all the other roads around us.

"I suspect the ability for someone to believe the map reflects reality is strongly correlated to whether it puts you in a posh area or not :)"

Not at all. The three postcodes I've lived in in my area are actually all different. One is a light blue, one is an orange and one is a red. In fact, I think it highlights how social class isn't a black and white issue, because my personal financial situation hasn't changed much at all, yet I've lived in a reasonably "posh" area, a medium one and now a "very deprived" one. I think the categorisations are accurate as a general rule, because of the situations of most of the people living in those areas earn less, and the areas have less resources, and less "beautified" and looked after (often nothing to do with the local residents, but whether the council cares about and invests in different areas).

I think the map proves that sometimes affluent people live in deprived areas, and also that people who are struggling and viewed as working class can live in affluent areas.

Yes, this.

I was surprised at first, as we come out less deprived (9th least) than my much, much wealthier parent (7th least).

I would say both my and my mum are fairly typical of the residents in our localities.

My mum has a house worth double ours, exceptionally healthy savings which are several times ours, but only lives on her half private pension following the death of DDad, which I think is around £30k. So even though she's by every standard possible very wealthy (she could probably pull together £2m if she sold the house plus all her savings), her income is actually quite low, whereas DH's and mine are quite high. She's not employed (as she's nearly 90!), DH and I are both employed. Her highest level of education is lower than that of DH and I, because of her age and the norms of the time). Her health is awful (as you'd expect at that age), DH & I have good health. I'd say we both live in low crime areas, but would suspect she'd be more vulnerable as a very elderly lady living in a big expensive detached house. Barriers to housing and services? Well, all the houses in her village are huge and expensive - so young people wouldn't really be able to afford to buy there. Also due to DMs age, she's not internet literate, and is bedridden, so pretty much not able to access services, where as DH and I were early adopters of technology and very confident at accessing the services we need. Living environment - both good in terms of space and garden, but my mum struggles now to keep up with the house and garden (obviously she doesn't do any of it herself now, but as bedridden, she doesn't really see things that need doing). She hasn't decorated since the 90s!

So I can really see how DH and I are much less deprived that my DM, even though she is so very much wealthier than us.

My council estate is an 8. Its currently full of traveller families so I guess we are on the up

My area is 4th. I thought it would actually be worse. So I am posher than I thought 😁