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Which house, 1 or 2? Help me choose as I’m a new parent!

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sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 15:06

We don’t know which house to go for. Can anyone who’s been through it, or has older kids, offer any perspective? What are the things we simply won’t think about? What do you wish you’d considered, and what are you glad you stuck to? What’s really important and what’s kind of irrelevant? Obviously we may get neither offer accepted but that’s beside the point.)
We are a family with a 15 month old boy and will be one done: no more kids. My priority is a place he can play safely and feel independent when he’s older.

Both in london zone 3.

house 1:
1930’s house on a wide street where everyone has off street parking. Detached (rare for london!). Big back garden but steep steps down to garden. Has a front garden too. Vendor is a bit more tricky, he’s hoping for a big price as he’s moving abroad but hasn’t had much interest as most people round here go for Victorian houses.

PROS HOUSE 1: Detached. Modernised. South facing garden. Less competition as it’s a 30’s house. Three mins walk to our fave park. Between 2 ofsted ‘very good’ primaries. Next to a cul de sac so hopefully he can ride his bike? Pretty layout with wide hallway unlike Victorians.

CONS HOUSE 1: needs a new roof. Survey otherwise OK. If we do this it will make the price comparable to House 2 (don’t ask me why the vendor modernised without fixing his roof leak 🙄)
House is on the flat bit of a steep hill. This gives the house great views over london but the walk up the hill from school or the train station will be tough on the glutes!
15 mins walk to the tube and rail station for our work. No secondary school nearby (relevant in ten years time)

House 2
Different neighbourhood but comparable. Slightly closer in to London as it’s on the zone 2 border and is in a conservation zone (good? Bad?) Vendor is more normal and reasonable it seems. A bit more expensive.

PROS HOUSE 2:
Literally 30 seconds walk to a park. Beautiful big Edwardian. Modernised and meets conversation area’s requirements. 5 minutes walk to an Ofsted ‘outstanding’ primary and secondary. 8 mins walk from a national rail for work or 16 to a Tube.
Bedroom 3 has an ensuite (good for guests but does make the overall sleeping space smaller, ie a squashed double)

CONS HOUSE 2:
On a B-road and actually we saw local neighbourhood petitions for safer roads/ ‘give us safer crossings etc.’ Not a place you’d want to ride your bike immediately outside (but it is 30 secs from park). Conservation area and tight neighbourhood community feel, but no shops or cafés for a 15 min walk. House has a lot of competition already.
This house is almost identical to the one we are currently in just a little bit bigger and with tall ceilings and a longer garden - worth it? Or better for a change?
No off street parking.

Here’s how they are like-for-like making it harder to choose:
Both have nice families next door. We checked.
Both are already modernised.
Both are in nice safe neighbourhoods.
Both are 3 beds and would be the same price if you allow for house 1’s roof cost.
Both have downstairs loos.
Both have enough storage.
Both involve a bit of a hill.

Do I need to be thinking about what teenage boys will need one day? Or is it better to live in the moment? Tell me things I just won’t have thought about!

NB I am aware how privileged this all sounds too. I grew up with not much, sharing a bedroom with several (fighting!) siblings, going to a bit of a rough school and seeing my mum cry over the lack of coins in her purse. I’ve worked really hard, always saved and know I am extremely lucky to be in this position age 40.

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WhirlAndCleek · 15/04/2023 15:10

Will air quality living next to a B road be an issue?

sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 15:14

Yes possibly. I can check that out. I don’t know how different air quality will be between the 2 as it seem to be an issue all across London, sadly.

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NameChange30 · 15/04/2023 15:15

This might sound crazy but secondary school would be a factor for me. It's years and years away. But if you don't want to be in a position of having to move house (for secondary catchment) in the next 10 years, go for house number 2.

We bought our house before having children, we now have two, and it's been a bit of a dilemma about whether to do expensive renovations, because we're probably going to have to move for secondary Sad

Luredbyapomegranate · 15/04/2023 15:17

I was going to say same as PP, check the secondaries. Other than that think about commuting time. Then all being equal I’d go for detached.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/04/2023 15:17

the lack of OSP in the Zone 2 house would be a con for me too , if its 8 minutes to a Rail Station.
There's so much going on with road restrictions , and near schools .
You'll find the commuter parking creeping into the roads slightly out of the station area and into your street .

Soggydog · 15/04/2023 15:19

What catchment would you fall in for secondary with house 1 and is there any potential developments that could mean you wouldnt get that school? Where do secondary age kids go to school? I have friends who bought a new build that wasnt in a catchment and it has turned out to be an issue. Is there any time difference between the tube and rail for work? It sounds like you prefer house 1 if it weren't for the school issue?

Leggingslife · 15/04/2023 15:19

Yes I can see your dilemma! I'd go for house 2. Outstanding education and close to a park. Better garden. 15 mins to shops is absolutely fine. My only concern would be the road, but you are living in London.. 🤷‍♀️

gruffalocake2 · 15/04/2023 15:23

I’d do house 2 without a doubt. Outstanding schools, good community feel and a park are the things you want (I have 3 kids from teen to pre school).
You don’t want to have to move for secondary, it comes up sooner than you think and is needless disruption and cost if you can avoid it.

NormalForNuneaton · 15/04/2023 15:24

You say that House 1 has "no secondary school nearby" so what would be the situation for your DC at that age? Is there a good one an easy bus/train ride away?

I love the age/style of House 2 but I'm drawn towards House 1 as it's detached and has off-road parking. We live in a detached after years of terraced houses and , honestly, nothing beats not having neighbour noise and being able to park without driving round the streets looking for a space. Even the best neighbours can be noisy.

averythinline · 15/04/2023 15:33

i would do house 2 ...we didn't have dc when bought and did cursory school look!.saw looked ok but always thought we'd move before primary or then secondary but we didn't...the costs of moving and the fact we had 3 good secondaries near us (zone4)...and house was big enough ...compromised on garden but had a good park.....
means we've been here 20yrs now!!!

sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 15:37

Right now the older kids in the neighbourhood seem to either compete for a place in our one lovely local secondary or they get in a 20 mins bus further north.

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TwigTheWonderKid · 15/04/2023 15:44

Whilst I think being in walking distance of primary school is essential, 20 mins on a bus to school at secondary age is nothing. I'd go for house 1, but I would absolutely hate to live on a busy road. Is it just cars or is it on a bus route too? Which rooms are at the front of house?

Rainbowqueeen · 15/04/2023 16:02

I’d go for house 1 based on your update but also keeping looking if the vendor is a bit tricky Then if he is so difficult that it’s not worth continuing and you find something else then I’d pull out.

MrsBlondie · 15/04/2023 16:16

Why are you moving?

Teenage boys cycle a lot here to meet up.

Soggydog · 15/04/2023 16:17

Definitely house 1 imo then.

sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 17:03

< so interesting, thank you. Yes I don’t really want to meet again. This would be the last house we buy unless we ever move out as empty nesters. So we expect to have a teenager here, even though, of course he’s only a toddler right now 😌 you might argue that in the next 10 years another secondary school could be built, but you never know in London.

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NameChange30 · 15/04/2023 17:05

sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 17:03

< so interesting, thank you. Yes I don’t really want to meet again. This would be the last house we buy unless we ever move out as empty nesters. So we expect to have a teenager here, even though, of course he’s only a toddler right now 😌 you might argue that in the next 10 years another secondary school could be built, but you never know in London.

Honestly if you want to stay for decades then it has to be in catchment for a good secondary. Obviously schools can change but you can only go on the current situation.

sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 17:44

Oh yes, I think it’s one of those things that we don’t want to have to think about because it feels so far away but we don’t want to come unstuck in 10 years time! Has definitely takes a lot of boxes, it’s just on a busy-ish road. But you can’t have everything?!

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DecentPleasant · 15/04/2023 17:49

100% investigate the secondary schools. Is the one near option 2 selective at all? Option 2 sounds great.

YukoandHiro · 15/04/2023 17:50

What @NameChange30 said. We moved for primary but now find ourselves a bit concerned about the secondary years...

Justputitdown · 15/04/2023 17:56

I'm really intrigued as to what part of London you're talking about!

RM2013 · 15/04/2023 18:04

Can’t advise on London areas as we live in a small town. Sometimes it’s hard to predict what you will feel on a few years, which schools will have good ofsted ratings or which will drop. I now have 2 teens and we’ve recently moved house so they now have bigger bedrooms and we have more bathrooms. It’s also closer to their high school which is better for them.

When they were younger we lived on the same estate as my parents which was good for help with childcare, we only have 1 high school as we live in a small town but we moved close to good primary schools/nursery.

a safe garden for me would be a priority and definitely off road parking - so much easier just to be able to pull up on your own driveway when you’ve got a baby/toddler to get in and out of car seats

as you’ve already said there is always a compromise with any house

LaylaLjungberg · 15/04/2023 18:11

House 1!

shazshaz · 15/04/2023 22:27

House 1. Kids in London get used to tube & bus very early on & there is no guarantee that you get a school place just because you're in catchment. 20 mins isn't a big commute, many children will be commuting.
Also 10 years is a long time in the life of a school and its performance may not be as good as it is now, so take it as a bonus but don't base all decisions on it. I lived off Highgate Hill for a while - it kept me fit.

wiffin · 15/04/2023 22:37

Number of bedrooms
Work commute
School catchment (primary and secondary)
School commute
Garden

The above were our search criteria. Everything else was window dressing. We have more kids than you plus elderly parent so bedroom number came first.

Difficult to choose without knowing the schools. Go visit. See if you like them.