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Which house, 1 or 2? Help me choose as I’m a new parent!

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sellotape12 · 15/04/2023 15:06

We don’t know which house to go for. Can anyone who’s been through it, or has older kids, offer any perspective? What are the things we simply won’t think about? What do you wish you’d considered, and what are you glad you stuck to? What’s really important and what’s kind of irrelevant? Obviously we may get neither offer accepted but that’s beside the point.)
We are a family with a 15 month old boy and will be one done: no more kids. My priority is a place he can play safely and feel independent when he’s older.

Both in london zone 3.

house 1:
1930’s house on a wide street where everyone has off street parking. Detached (rare for london!). Big back garden but steep steps down to garden. Has a front garden too. Vendor is a bit more tricky, he’s hoping for a big price as he’s moving abroad but hasn’t had much interest as most people round here go for Victorian houses.

PROS HOUSE 1: Detached. Modernised. South facing garden. Less competition as it’s a 30’s house. Three mins walk to our fave park. Between 2 ofsted ‘very good’ primaries. Next to a cul de sac so hopefully he can ride his bike? Pretty layout with wide hallway unlike Victorians.

CONS HOUSE 1: needs a new roof. Survey otherwise OK. If we do this it will make the price comparable to House 2 (don’t ask me why the vendor modernised without fixing his roof leak 🙄)
House is on the flat bit of a steep hill. This gives the house great views over london but the walk up the hill from school or the train station will be tough on the glutes!
15 mins walk to the tube and rail station for our work. No secondary school nearby (relevant in ten years time)

House 2
Different neighbourhood but comparable. Slightly closer in to London as it’s on the zone 2 border and is in a conservation zone (good? Bad?) Vendor is more normal and reasonable it seems. A bit more expensive.

PROS HOUSE 2:
Literally 30 seconds walk to a park. Beautiful big Edwardian. Modernised and meets conversation area’s requirements. 5 minutes walk to an Ofsted ‘outstanding’ primary and secondary. 8 mins walk from a national rail for work or 16 to a Tube.
Bedroom 3 has an ensuite (good for guests but does make the overall sleeping space smaller, ie a squashed double)

CONS HOUSE 2:
On a B-road and actually we saw local neighbourhood petitions for safer roads/ ‘give us safer crossings etc.’ Not a place you’d want to ride your bike immediately outside (but it is 30 secs from park). Conservation area and tight neighbourhood community feel, but no shops or cafés for a 15 min walk. House has a lot of competition already.
This house is almost identical to the one we are currently in just a little bit bigger and with tall ceilings and a longer garden - worth it? Or better for a change?
No off street parking.

Here’s how they are like-for-like making it harder to choose:
Both have nice families next door. We checked.
Both are already modernised.
Both are in nice safe neighbourhoods.
Both are 3 beds and would be the same price if you allow for house 1’s roof cost.
Both have downstairs loos.
Both have enough storage.
Both involve a bit of a hill.

Do I need to be thinking about what teenage boys will need one day? Or is it better to live in the moment? Tell me things I just won’t have thought about!

NB I am aware how privileged this all sounds too. I grew up with not much, sharing a bedroom with several (fighting!) siblings, going to a bit of a rough school and seeing my mum cry over the lack of coins in her purse. I’ve worked really hard, always saved and know I am extremely lucky to be in this position age 40.

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PickAChew · 15/04/2023 22:49

Those steps to the garden will be a nightmare with a primary school child running in and out. And, if it's down steps, isn't there a risk that it's a bog for half a year, even down there? Otoh, off road parking...

I'm not much help, really.

TheGriffle · 15/04/2023 22:55

I’m guessing house 2 is a semi/terrace? That and no off street parking along with a busy road would be a no from me.

Detached and a private drive were our main priorities when buying our forever home.

House 1, you will be in the catchment for a secondary school somewhere and a 20 min bus journey should be fine once they move up.

Make the steps into the garden as safe as you can, handrails both sides and teach dc to always walk up and down them holding the rail, keep them clean so they’re not slippy etc.

stickybear · 15/04/2023 23:10

Steps in the garden are a nightmare with toddlers and young children. We've just moved from a house with a beautiful garden, but with unforgiving stone steps up to the lawn, and I'm so relieved that I no longer have to worry about children falling head first down those steps! Don't underestimate the value of a safe outdoor play space for your son as he gets bigger.

stickybear · 15/04/2023 23:17

Something else that was a must for us this time around is room for drying laundry. Does either house have an airing cupboard / room for a tumble drier? We had neither in our old house and it could be hard work in the winter, especially once school uniforms were involved!

ImSoShiney · 15/04/2023 23:24

I'd want the drive if I was living in London. Teens can get busses to school surely?

OhcantthInkofaname · 15/04/2023 23:42

Lack of parking will drive you crazy! Steep stairs and roofs can be fixed.

Marchsnowstorms · 16/04/2023 00:23

Which does your gut say

sellotape12 · 16/04/2023 09:25

Yes teens can get the bus, and many do. It (and these comments reflect this!) seems
to come down to: safer street but steps in garden, or busy street but ultra proximity to schools.
There’s no perfect answer…

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HandbagsAtDawns · 16/04/2023 09:31

House 1
Off road parking is a God send as is detached
Do not rely on an OFSTED report as a basis for choosing a house
Get hand rails for the garden
My children travelled for 40/50 minutes to their secondary, it was the best bit of the day for them

signalsnap · 16/04/2023 09:36

Justputitdown · 15/04/2023 17:56

I'm really intrigued as to what part of London you're talking about!

Me too! 15 mins walk to a cafe or shops? Where is it?

TheNoodlesIncident · 16/04/2023 10:21

I would go for house 1. Detached and off road parking are great pros. Sure, the roof needs replacing but that can be done - getting your own parking space and detached from other properties, you can't!

I wouldn't buy a house purely on local OFSTED ratings (they don't reflect a school's effectiveness or ethos, plus that can change with a change of HT) but it's the sort of thing that might swing it in one house's favour, all else being equal. It's not that equal though, I don't think the lack of parking and busy road is negated by secondary schools. Most kids expect to travel to secondary, mine does because the more local schools didn't offer him the same provision as his current school. He can still cycle to friends' houses.

I'd view the steep steps as a con as well, but like PP have said, you can do things like add handrails which should make it less of an issue. The more trivial things that you can do something about aren't that much of an issue, it wouldn't outweigh the parking, nice road and detachedness for me.

WaitingfortheTardis · 16/04/2023 11:06

House 1 for me, I wouldn't want to live near a busy road.

Bobshhh · 16/04/2023 11:10

signalsnap · 16/04/2023 09:36

Me too! 15 mins walk to a cafe or shops? Where is it?

Me three! Hill made me think Crystal Palace but now I’m going for north London near ally pally!

sellotape12 · 16/04/2023 11:10

TheNoodlesIncident · 16/04/2023 10:21

I would go for house 1. Detached and off road parking are great pros. Sure, the roof needs replacing but that can be done - getting your own parking space and detached from other properties, you can't!

I wouldn't buy a house purely on local OFSTED ratings (they don't reflect a school's effectiveness or ethos, plus that can change with a change of HT) but it's the sort of thing that might swing it in one house's favour, all else being equal. It's not that equal though, I don't think the lack of parking and busy road is negated by secondary schools. Most kids expect to travel to secondary, mine does because the more local schools didn't offer him the same provision as his current school. He can still cycle to friends' houses.

I'd view the steep steps as a con as well, but like PP have said, you can do things like add handrails which should make it less of an issue. The more trivial things that you can do something about aren't that much of an issue, it wouldn't outweigh the parking, nice road and detachedness for me.

That’s really good perspective, thank you. Getting a bus to secondary is new for me because I just didn’t have to do it when I was a kid but everyone I speak to said it’s totally normal and yes, they get some alone time from the Parents to decompress!

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sellotape12 · 16/04/2023 11:10

Haha yes Ally P

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sellotape12 · 16/04/2023 11:13

TheNoodlesIncident · 16/04/2023 10:21

I would go for house 1. Detached and off road parking are great pros. Sure, the roof needs replacing but that can be done - getting your own parking space and detached from other properties, you can't!

I wouldn't buy a house purely on local OFSTED ratings (they don't reflect a school's effectiveness or ethos, plus that can change with a change of HT) but it's the sort of thing that might swing it in one house's favour, all else being equal. It's not that equal though, I don't think the lack of parking and busy road is negated by secondary schools. Most kids expect to travel to secondary, mine does because the more local schools didn't offer him the same provision as his current school. He can still cycle to friends' houses.

I'd view the steep steps as a con as well, but like PP have said, you can do things like add handrails which should make it less of an issue. The more trivial things that you can do something about aren't that much of an issue, it wouldn't outweigh the parking, nice road and detachedness for me.

Thanks. So you still think detached and off-road parking, even though the house is on a very steep road? What about little legs coming home from nursery or school? Maybe it’s something you get used to?

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NameChange30 · 16/04/2023 11:27

Tbh, if you really can't decide, it probably means that neither house is quite right, and you should keep looking.

tsheet · 16/04/2023 11:50

I would either keep looking or go with house 1. I bought a house based on an excellent secondary being nearby. Years down the line and the school in question is totally wrong for my child (despite the outstanding ofsted rating) so my child won't be attending the school I'd planned for. So I'd be wary of that being the biggest pull. Equally I would want to know the school options were acceptable for any house so I wouldn't but if the only option was a truly terrible school.
Being detached and having parking is a big plus IMO.

catinboooots · 16/04/2023 12:11

Silly question - but which one do you like the best. Just based on the house. Forget all the other factors for a minute.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 16/04/2023 12:15

Is house 1 in a cul-de-sac ?
What's the road like in winter if it is steep ?

And WRT schools , the Secondary my DC both went to changed from Outstanding to Requires Improvement now back up to Good .
So yes , they can and do change

Danielle8p · 16/04/2023 12:24

@sellotape12 I'd go house 1 but how far is the secondary school? Is there things local for your child to do when a teen

CommanderSeven · 16/04/2023 15:17

House 1 and OSP sold it for me. That's the one I'd go for. Think about it electric cars become a real goer - you'll be able to have one and park/charge it off street on your property.

sarahb083 · 16/04/2023 19:21

Definitely the detached house with off street parking on the quiet street. All of those are huge pluses. Steep hill isn't an issue at all - you'll soon get used it it and it keeps you fit. Our nursery is up a massive hill and honestly I enjoy getting my heart going in the morning. Steep steps to the garden are really only an issue with small children.

A busy road is awful for noise, peace, and air quality. Just because the neighbours are nice now doesn't mean they'll always be, and you could end up with noisy people next door - much less of an issue with detached.

sellotape12 · 16/04/2023 19:48

Good point about electric cars. Anyway ladies help!!! I just found out House 1 has apparently gone under offer. We had been in negotiations on it, then our EA went on holiday for a week (we didn’t know), and when he’s come back, another of his colleagues from the next branch took an offer. Nobody got in touch to give us refusal or chance to counter offer. 😫
I know that legally, the agent have to submit all offers to the seller, but any ideas how I can play it? I’m hopping mad that the agent disappeared for a week whilst we believed were still in crucial negotiations. But i don’t know if realistically, the seller will cancel the other offer and move to us. 😩 it’s been 5 days

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NameChange30 · 16/04/2023 20:07

Well, if you really want it, put in an offer. Complain to lettings agency manager as well.