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Council want to house us opposite paedos!!

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Ilovepugs2017 · 24/08/2022 23:36

I’ll try and cut a long story short.
We are at risk of homelessness due to our landlord wanting to sell. Our section 21 ran out in July.
we have been bidding on properties every week with no luck.
The council bid on a property on our behalf in our local area (for personal reasons I didn’t bid on this particular property - issues with threats of assault from someone living on the same street as the one advertised).
anyway we were no.2 in the queue and couldn’t withdraw the bid which gave me huge anxiety. I’d even emailed the housing officer to say I didn’t bid for personal reasons.
2 weeks later which is today they have called and offered us the property. They have said if we refuse to take it they will help us no further!!
my partner has been to speak to a couple of the neighbours and they have said to be warned that a couple of convicted paedos live opposite the back entrance!

we have three young children how is this acceptable?
Im going to refuse the house and appeal!
anxiety is through the roof!! :(
anyone been through similar?

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NeonPink · 25/08/2022 00:57

I think the main problem here OP is your anxiety!

Who knows, if you accept the property, you and your family could potentially be very happy and you may even look back in the future thanking yourself that you took the chance.

Blackmetalmama · 25/08/2022 01:01

Wow, to be in your position and still be ungrateful. Do you think another family deserve to live near two paedophiles anymore than your family? Because I'm guessing it's a three bedroom property so will house another family, and I bet they will he grateful. And if not, they should be. There are so many families deperate for housing who would jump at the chance of a council bidding for and securing a property for them.

You had three kids, why are you not able to provide for them? Your partner should be out working any job he can, any number of hours to keep a roof over his children's head. Your sense of entitlement reeks. Go and grow up. You say you would do anything for your kids, yet the council told you that if you refuse the house you will be making yourself intentionally homeless and you still started this threat saying you are going to refuse! Unbelievable

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:01

BlueSkyAndButterflies · 25/08/2022 00:55

It might not. College doesn't fire you for not showing up or lateness or poor performance. The DWP push ill people into going to college with the threat of sanctions, then say well you went to college no reason you can't work now, as if the two are comparable.

Why would any landlord need someone to provide a guarantor if they were capable of paying the rent themselves.

This isn't bullshit, plenty do, just because. Sometimes their idea of if you can afford the rent is salary of X times the rent, not just salary that covers the rent. If you don't meet their criteria you need a guarantor.

Exactly this.

My parents are more than willing to be a guarantor for us if we could find a rental within our budget but they don’t own their own home they rent so they aren’t eligible to be guarantors. Some will accept a guarantor earning over 25k a year but that kinda wage in the area I live is unheard of. The wages are lower here and hence rents are meant to be cheaper. Landlords are just hiking up the prices to whatever they feel like at the minute. So many people are private renting at extortionate prices and then struggling to afford essentials. It’s just messed up

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Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:02

NeonPink · 25/08/2022 00:57

I think the main problem here OP is your anxiety!

Who knows, if you accept the property, you and your family could potentially be very happy and you may even look back in the future thanking yourself that you took the chance.

My anxiety is bad. I just want the best for my children :(
maybe in time we could move to somewhere better if our personal and financial circumstances change

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Johnnysgirl · 25/08/2022 01:03

Guarantors must be home owners, op, so your parents being willing is irrelevant.

Lipsandlashes · 25/08/2022 01:04

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 00:19

I’m in college and my partner is in part time work at the moment as he works for an agency. We live in South Wales so the rental prices down here are generally cheaper to other areas. They were on average 500pcm now they’re charging silly prices 650-750 per month

Hummm wonder how ‘the paedos’ are affording it?

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:07

Johnnysgirl · 25/08/2022 01:03

Guarantors must be home owners, op, so your parents being willing is irrelevant.

I know I’m just saying! It’s not like I haven’t covered all basis to try and avoid the situation I’m in

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FlyingMasticatedParticles · 25/08/2022 01:09

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Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:09

Blackmetalmama · 25/08/2022 01:01

Wow, to be in your position and still be ungrateful. Do you think another family deserve to live near two paedophiles anymore than your family? Because I'm guessing it's a three bedroom property so will house another family, and I bet they will he grateful. And if not, they should be. There are so many families deperate for housing who would jump at the chance of a council bidding for and securing a property for them.

You had three kids, why are you not able to provide for them? Your partner should be out working any job he can, any number of hours to keep a roof over his children's head. Your sense of entitlement reeks. Go and grow up. You say you would do anything for your kids, yet the council told you that if you refuse the house you will be making yourself intentionally homeless and you still started this threat saying you are going to refuse! Unbelievable

So is it better to put myself into accodomation where I’m potentially at risk of harm then yeah?

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StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 01:09

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:07

I know I’m just saying! It’s not like I haven’t covered all basis to try and avoid the situation I’m in

Except your husband bothering to find a full-time job, of course.

Everything except him getting off his backside and being a decent dad to his children.

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:10

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 01:09

Except your husband bothering to find a full-time job, of course.

Everything except him getting off his backside and being a decent dad to his children.

How can he do that if there’s nothing available? He’s been applying for other jobs with nothing coming back!
At least he’s got some money coming in whilst looking for something else!

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Oncilla · 25/08/2022 01:13

Everyone has anxiety. Everyone's kids are their world. No one actively wants to live near sex offenders.

The housing people hear this stuff all day long, if anything it's a red flag that you are going to be difficult to house.

Your only distinguishing feature is the police record of previous threats.

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:14

BlueSkyAndButterflies · 25/08/2022 00:40

It's not a risk it's a cast iron guarantee of what will happen. If you can't house your DC and are sleeping rough they'll be taken into care. The housing application is an assessment of your needs, that's when you should have mentioned the sisters ex threatening you. This is a situation where you need to count your blessings. With the rental situation being dire be grateful you've got a home which you can afford and can't be evicted from without good reason. Your other option is to put more effort into securing full time work for you both so you can afford private rental. That's in the future though, for now you need a roof over the DC heads.

That’s true. That’s the last thing I want to happen.
maybe I just need to look at this as potientally short term until we are in a position to find something better. Thanks for the advice. Head is just all over the place tonight, can’t think straight. They need an answer by the morning

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Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:19

Oncilla · 25/08/2022 01:13

Everyone has anxiety. Everyone's kids are their world. No one actively wants to live near sex offenders.

The housing people hear this stuff all day long, if anything it's a red flag that you are going to be difficult to house.

Your only distinguishing feature is the police record of previous threats.

Your points are all so true. I know this.
it’s so hard to rationalise when your anxiety is 1000mph.
Aside from the snarky comments this thread has been useful for helping me to sit back and see it from all angles so I’m grateful for that.
Hard when it’s 1am you have no one to talk to because everyone is sleeping & you have to make a decision by morning

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Aussiegirl123456 · 25/08/2022 01:23

Firstly, it’s highly unlikely that convicted sex offenders will be living within close proximity of one another, as one of the main aims of rehabilitation is to ensure they’re less likely to reoffend, so parole officers try to disperse sex offenders so they can’t speak of their desires to one another, thus less likely to reoffend. Just like another condition is they’re not allowed to use the internet for X amount of years. Remove as much temptation as possible. So having two offenders living a few doors away from one another is pretty much unheard of. I sincerely doubt this is true and that person who told you this was spreading malicious gossip. Why? Maybe he doesn’t want children living next door. Maybe he didn’t like the look of you and your family? Who knows. Totally irrelevant anyway.

Secondly, if you love your children then you will try to meet their basic needs, one of which is shelter. Take the house, safeguard your children and there is no issue.

Thirdly, the actual issue, is your sister’s ex who threatened you and your family. Why? How long ago? If he’s privately renting and does cause any anti social issues with you or your family, then he’s likely to lose his rental. It wouldn’t be in his best interest to break the law and harm you. If he makes threats, report to the police.

There is a whole heap of drama created in your posts that is not necessary. It may not be your ideal house or life for your children, but like pp said, beggars can’t be choosers. You’re so, so, so fortunate to have even been offered this house. Move.

Finally, I am actually disgusted how you have treated your current landlord. He has served eviction papers yet you’re still there despite being offered alternative accommodation. You’re treating him like that despite the fact he allowed you to rent there without a guarantor OR a deposit?! I highly doubt the rent you’re paying is just paying his mortgage, let alone all the other bills associated with landlord costs. How you’ve treated him speaks volumes about your character. I’d personally be ashamed of myself but you seem to think you’re owed the world.

I have to agree with the majority of posters. Get a job. Get your boyfriend to get a full time job. Because if you’re in college (with the aim to get a job) then you’re fit enough to work. Otherwise why even attend college? Not all jobs are physical. At the moment you’re showing your children that they can have a cruisy life but you don’t get to pick where you live. Show them what they can achieve through hard work hey?

NeonPink · 25/08/2022 01:27

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:14

That’s true. That’s the last thing I want to happen.
maybe I just need to look at this as potientally short term until we are in a position to find something better. Thanks for the advice. Head is just all over the place tonight, can’t think straight. They need an answer by the morning

That's the best way to think OP - look at it as potentially something short term until you're in a position to find something else.

As said previously, you may even end up happy and be glad you accepted the property. It seems that's your after a quick fix, you want to be offered a property where you think you'll have no issues or worries and live happily ever after.

If you were to be offered a different property, who's to say that you won't end up with unsavory neighbours who have the potential to be violent, or you may have some UNconvicted paedophiles living nearby that you're not aware of.

There's good and bad in every single area, and when you're about to become homeless, you have no choice but to take that chance!

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 01:31

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:10

How can he do that if there’s nothing available? He’s been applying for other jobs with nothing coming back!
At least he’s got some money coming in whilst looking for something else!

Don’t be ridiculous. There’s a massive skills shortage. He’s presumably got some marketable skills and good qualifications, hasn’t he? You’ll be straining credulity beyond belief if you now claim he doesn’t have a proper trade or career yet you still decided to have three children.

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:31

NeonPink · 25/08/2022 01:27

That's the best way to think OP - look at it as potentially something short term until you're in a position to find something else.

As said previously, you may even end up happy and be glad you accepted the property. It seems that's your after a quick fix, you want to be offered a property where you think you'll have no issues or worries and live happily ever after.

If you were to be offered a different property, who's to say that you won't end up with unsavory neighbours who have the potential to be violent, or you may have some UNconvicted paedophiles living nearby that you're not aware of.

There's good and bad in every single area, and when you're about to become homeless, you have no choice but to take that chance!

This is all so true. Hopefully it won’t be forever & just all of us being together under the same roof is what matters

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Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:32

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 01:31

Don’t be ridiculous. There’s a massive skills shortage. He’s presumably got some marketable skills and good qualifications, hasn’t he? You’ll be straining credulity beyond belief if you now claim he doesn’t have a proper trade or career yet you still decided to have three children.

Can you not just assume that you know the ins and outs of peoples lives and situations? Honestly there are some nasty people on this forum!

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chaosmaker · 25/08/2022 01:34

Care work is crying out for staff so I'm sure that that is an area your partner hasn't looked in for work or he'd have been hired already. Also Welsh government are making all staff get a care qualification (annoyingly for some of us) so that's good if you need a qualifiation. Fully funded by the Welsh gov and EU funding.

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:36

chaosmaker · 25/08/2022 01:34

Care work is crying out for staff so I'm sure that that is an area your partner hasn't looked in for work or he'd have been hired already. Also Welsh government are making all staff get a care qualification (annoyingly for some of us) so that's good if you need a qualifiation. Fully funded by the Welsh gov and EU funding.

Useful info. Thanks 🙏

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StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 01:38

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:32

Can you not just assume that you know the ins and outs of peoples lives and situations? Honestly there are some nasty people on this forum!

And there are others whose sense of entitlement and complete unwillingness to take any personal responsibility is simply breathtaking.

Have you any idea how bad a world we would live in if every family demanded as much and offered as little as you seem to think is reasonable?

The behaviour towards your current landlord, your long list of excuses as to why nothing is your fault, and your husband’s refusal to get a proper job, none of this is acceptable behaviour.

Do you honestly not understand what happens next if you don’t come to your senses? You will be on the streets, and your children will be taken off you.

You are their mother, you have responsibility for them. Start acting better.

Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:40

Aussiegirl123456 · 25/08/2022 01:23

Firstly, it’s highly unlikely that convicted sex offenders will be living within close proximity of one another, as one of the main aims of rehabilitation is to ensure they’re less likely to reoffend, so parole officers try to disperse sex offenders so they can’t speak of their desires to one another, thus less likely to reoffend. Just like another condition is they’re not allowed to use the internet for X amount of years. Remove as much temptation as possible. So having two offenders living a few doors away from one another is pretty much unheard of. I sincerely doubt this is true and that person who told you this was spreading malicious gossip. Why? Maybe he doesn’t want children living next door. Maybe he didn’t like the look of you and your family? Who knows. Totally irrelevant anyway.

Secondly, if you love your children then you will try to meet their basic needs, one of which is shelter. Take the house, safeguard your children and there is no issue.

Thirdly, the actual issue, is your sister’s ex who threatened you and your family. Why? How long ago? If he’s privately renting and does cause any anti social issues with you or your family, then he’s likely to lose his rental. It wouldn’t be in his best interest to break the law and harm you. If he makes threats, report to the police.

There is a whole heap of drama created in your posts that is not necessary. It may not be your ideal house or life for your children, but like pp said, beggars can’t be choosers. You’re so, so, so fortunate to have even been offered this house. Move.

Finally, I am actually disgusted how you have treated your current landlord. He has served eviction papers yet you’re still there despite being offered alternative accommodation. You’re treating him like that despite the fact he allowed you to rent there without a guarantor OR a deposit?! I highly doubt the rent you’re paying is just paying his mortgage, let alone all the other bills associated with landlord costs. How you’ve treated him speaks volumes about your character. I’d personally be ashamed of myself but you seem to think you’re owed the world.

I have to agree with the majority of posters. Get a job. Get your boyfriend to get a full time job. Because if you’re in college (with the aim to get a job) then you’re fit enough to work. Otherwise why even attend college? Not all jobs are physical. At the moment you’re showing your children that they can have a cruisy life but you don’t get to pick where you live. Show them what they can achieve through hard work hey?

Disgusted at how I’ve treated the landlord? Are you even serious? Don’t assume you know our situation! Our landlord shouldn’t actually even be a landlord….
we’ve had hell with him with his refusal to do repairs. The main one being a leaky bay window which he was told about for TWO YEARS. Yet he proceeded to do nothing. Had water coming in the ceiling and pouring onto furniture. This went on until the ceiling collapsed in our living room and just missed our son who was colouring on the table and then FINALLY he decided to fix it! So don’t you dare say we owe our landlord anything!!!!

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Ilovepugs2017 · 25/08/2022 01:42

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 01:38

And there are others whose sense of entitlement and complete unwillingness to take any personal responsibility is simply breathtaking.

Have you any idea how bad a world we would live in if every family demanded as much and offered as little as you seem to think is reasonable?

The behaviour towards your current landlord, your long list of excuses as to why nothing is your fault, and your husband’s refusal to get a proper job, none of this is acceptable behaviour.

Do you honestly not understand what happens next if you don’t come to your senses? You will be on the streets, and your children will be taken off you.

You are their mother, you have responsibility for them. Start acting better.

I would not be on the streets, I’m pretty sure my parents would make sure of that even if temporary until we found somewhere!
Just narks me off when someone THINKS they know the inns and outs of peoples lives when they have literally replied to a mumsnet post knowing nothing about them 🙄

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Johnnysgirl · 25/08/2022 01:43

And yet there you still are, having been given notice and refusing to leave...

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