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Anyone noticed the market has changed?

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yaxe · 16/06/2022 18:17

We are in the process of buying (have sold) & it was mad in March, lots of overbidding etc. I've noticed now reductions & stuff is staying on rather than going in a wk. It's making me a bit nervous tbh.

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DomPerignon12 · 23/06/2022 12:16

Ohthatsexciting · 23/06/2022 12:11

Agreed
but upside to that is that it is homing someone who can’t afford to get a mortgage and buy.

It all just goes round and round though.
Many people on good salaries can't buy because rents are so high, so they can't save for a deposit.
However less rentals mean hugher rents, and with rules in favour of tenants a lot of LL's are selling.

The only real solution is social housing

DomPerignon12 · 23/06/2022 12:17

Also to add... renting is also crazy. People are bidding... on rents!

khtmhai5 · 23/06/2022 12:18

I have to say I think they were way overpriced and I'm not surprised if there was a problem with mortgages. I do think people got very greedy.

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 12:19

However less rentals mean hugher rents, and with rules in favour of tenants a lot of LL's are selling.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Any landlords or agents around who could confirm whether, or not landlords are going to start selling up en masse?

Ohthatsexciting · 23/06/2022 12:19

khtmhai5 · 23/06/2022 12:18

I have to say I think they were way overpriced and I'm not surprised if there was a problem with mortgages. I do think people got very greedy.

What was overpriced?

Ohthatsexciting · 23/06/2022 12:23

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 12:19

However less rentals mean hugher rents, and with rules in favour of tenants a lot of LL's are selling.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Any landlords or agents around who could confirm whether, or not landlords are going to start selling up en masse?

Depends

own outright - keep
buy to let mortgage - more inclined to sell

Applesapple · 23/06/2022 12:25

I recently completed in South Manchester and I think the market has since come down. I had an estate call me three times last week to follow up to arrange a viewing (I was busy so missed all their calls). That never happened in the months Nov - May when I was looking. I’ve noticed things are staying up on RM for longer, though I now have to stop looking because it’s a bit upsetting.

that said, if we had waited for the market to come down, there are no guarantees that it will, and each month we pay more in rent. So we could be in a much worse position. I’ve been looking at house prices for the past 10years, and each time thought ‘it can’t get higher’ and I’ve been wrong.

Mariposa80 · 23/06/2022 12:33

Lots of the things coming up in my search are properties that are reduced. Mostly everything coming up is either expensive (500,000+ which is expensive for this area) or first time buyer properties at around 180,000. There doesn't seem to be anything in between which is irritating as that's what we're looking for. Tonnes of expensive new builds too. Really wish we'd pushed the boat out when we first bought, instead of being sensible.

XVGN · 23/06/2022 12:33

DomPerignon12 · 23/06/2022 12:09

You can't compare Japan to the UK. For a start, they're one of the few countries to have experienced almost 2 decades of inflation, very low migration rates (with a very closed culture), different mindset. Extremely large population decline, so clearly they have the opposite problem to the UK.

Watch and learn!

Ohthatsexciting · 23/06/2022 12:39

Watch and learn from Japan’s housing market?!

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 12:42

@Ohthatsexciting

Even if they own outright they could be on the hook for 12 months lack of rent and legal costs if they get a bad tenant. With the new rules coming in.

Whammyyammy · 23/06/2022 12:42

We had our house valued last summer out of curiosity. EA called last week and asked to do another valuation and if we considered selling, as prices in our area have increased by 14% , and a shortage of properties is dictating faster sales.... doesn't appeared to have changed other than increased

DomPerignon12 · 23/06/2022 12:49

XVGN · 23/06/2022 12:33

Watch and learn!

Again, it makes no difference for the average Joe who just wants a home to decorate and have pets + children in.
In the short term being in negative equity is a problem if you lose your job and still owe the bank. But in the long term... who cares?

Even if prices crashed the day after I bought and stayed exactly the same for the next 50 years it would mean nothing to me, as long as I got to keep my home. It's not a financial investment, but a basic necessity.

Of course there are wider economic implications, recession etc and there are people for whom a home is an asset. I may be in the minority. But to 'time the market' for a place to live (unless you have family) makes no sense to me. You're ready when you're ready, just have to make the best of it.

DomPerignon12 · 23/06/2022 12:50

*family to live with I mean!

XVGN · 23/06/2022 12:54

DomPerignon12 · 23/06/2022 12:49

Again, it makes no difference for the average Joe who just wants a home to decorate and have pets + children in.
In the short term being in negative equity is a problem if you lose your job and still owe the bank. But in the long term... who cares?

Even if prices crashed the day after I bought and stayed exactly the same for the next 50 years it would mean nothing to me, as long as I got to keep my home. It's not a financial investment, but a basic necessity.

Of course there are wider economic implications, recession etc and there are people for whom a home is an asset. I may be in the minority. But to 'time the market' for a place to live (unless you have family) makes no sense to me. You're ready when you're ready, just have to make the best of it.

Absolutely agree with that. I have always said that if it's your forever home, and you can afford interest rate increases and utility increases and can manage if a partner no longer works because of redundancy, illness or maternity, then go for it. It's a home and prices won't matter.

If NOT, then be very aware.

daffodilandtulip · 23/06/2022 12:58

First time buyer type house in my street that just needs a lick of paint, been on the market for a couple of months. Similar were selling in a couple of days at the start of the year.

Nothappyatwork · 23/06/2022 13:16

I remember in 1998 being told that house is were a bit expensive at the moment and I might be better off waiting the house that was 36,000 I could’ve bought in 2000 for 48,000 as it is I decided to go for a slightly better area and I’ve paid 67,000. I later sold it for 125… by later I mean 2004.
now actually it’s only gone up to 200k now so things have slowed down.
but if I have kept that house I mean it would be paid off now anyway but the mortgage on it was 100 quid a month.

MrsMitford3 · 23/06/2022 13:22

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/06/2022 20:16

They’re still going, and bids are still happening. But cash buyer trumps everything. So first timers still can’t get on. Too many cash buyers at the bottom end of the market. Vendors will accept lower cash offers than mortgage offers so first timers have no chance.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow Exactly what happened to my DS in a Newcastle suburb-he and his girlfriend are FTB and they offered over the asking for a flat and were beaten to it by cash buyer.

Very discouraging!

Things still going very fast up there and I am SE and next door sold before it went on the market a few weeks ago.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 13:27

now actually it’s only gone up to 200k now so things have slowed down

It depends where you live though. My house has more than doubled in price in less than 10 years. And the people opposite have just sold theirs for 50k over the asking price.

oiltrader · 23/06/2022 13:29

the good times are over. i would dread to have overpaid in the last 2 years. will be drops from peak of abvout 20-30% over the next couple of years

Nothappyatwork · 23/06/2022 14:10

oiltrader · 23/06/2022 13:29

the good times are over. i would dread to have overpaid in the last 2 years. will be drops from peak of abvout 20-30% over the next couple of years

Oh no the sky is falling in …. They’ve been saying there Will be 20 to 30% drops for the last 22 years as pointed out earlier there’s actually been 200 % increases overall

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 14:12

It appears that we have a 2 speed market. Things cooling considerably in some areas. The "hot" areas of major cities and commuter towns with good schools still going strong.

Nothappyatwork · 23/06/2022 14:13

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 14:12

It appears that we have a 2 speed market. Things cooling considerably in some areas. The "hot" areas of major cities and commuter towns with good schools still going strong.

As was always ever the case

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 14:14

@Nothappyatwork

Incorrect. Even houses in the not so "hot" areas have been flying off the shelves in the last couple of years. They aren't now.

oiltrader · 23/06/2022 14:23

Nothappyatwork · 23/06/2022 14:10

Oh no the sky is falling in …. They’ve been saying there Will be 20 to 30% drops for the last 22 years as pointed out earlier there’s actually been 200 % increases overall

well done.

if you took the time to read instead of getting over emotional, you would see i said "bought in the last 2 years".

those who did will have to expect 20-30% drop in value plus large increases in interest rates and cost of living.

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