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Where would you move with young kids? (Devon, elsewhere?)

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Dreamingofasmallholding · 11/01/2022 22:02

Hi,

We are a couple in our 30s with young children currently living in the South East. Where we live is lovely (we are already in a small, very pretty, semi rural village with a great community feel) but probably among the most expensive places in the country outside of London. I am a hospital doctor and my husband WFH, so we could work from more or less anywhere in the country and make the same money - living where we do is beginning to feel needlessly expensive.

We have long considered realising our dream of working less and living "The Good Life" / giving our kids an idyllic countryside childhood on a chunk of land somewhere quite rural, and for a long time thought about achieving this in South Wales.

My parents own their house outright which has become enormously valuable over their 40 years of ownership, and are willing to combine their now considerable resources with our somewhat more meagre ones so that we would be in a position to jointly buy a dream property (eg a multi generational one with a house for them, and a house for us, and a generous amount of land etc).

(The context behind this is that my sibling lives with my parents and has a developmental disability so part of this is about future-proofing for my parents' potential frailty. The idea being my sibling will have a comfortable and secure future living in close proximity to family, my parents would have a wonderful retirement with their grandchildren and us close at hand, and my husband and I would have a better lifestyle, in effect benefitting from a large inheritance (hopefully long) before my parents' time is actually up. Without such a plan, it feels that the care of my parents and sibling is all going to fall on my shoulders with my parents an uncomfortable >1 hour drive away in a house that's increasingly unsuitable, and with myself and husband still working lots to make ends meet).

Obviously this whole plan involves a scary level of commitment, and the feeling we've got to get it right first time and choose the "right place" as it's not like selling up and moving again would be straightforward if it didn't work out. We are thinking of doing this when the kids are still infant school age. My parents aren't keen on Wales (or anywhere to the North of London for that matter), they want somewhere "sunny" eg they want the South West. We've loved holidaying in Devon and Cornwall but I understand living there can be very different.

There are so many potentials it's a bit paralysing (!) but we'd be looking for the right multigenerational property (which can be few and far between), in or very near to a friendly village with a good primary school, a short commute from a hospital (with an A&E), a short or reasonable commute to a decent secondary school and not in an area totally devoid of anything to do as a family (where we live we are already used to driving often 40-60 mins for a day out, or 20 minutes to the nearest town with a swimming pool, so that's not such a problem but don't want to be much more remote than that and would like sports clubs and lessons for kids, stuff like that).

At the moment our attention is focused on North Devon (maybe a bit inland to avoid the most tourist-overwhelmed areas) and have found examples of the right sort of dreamy multigenerational properties in that region within our budget (not looked in great detail though yet). But where would you be looking at in our position?

We really appreciate how lucky we are to even consider all of this, and your help / suggestions. Thank you

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Charliealphatangorara · 12/01/2022 19:56

If you want Devon and to be near a large hospital you're talking surrounding areas of Plymouth, Exeter or Torbay. The least "cut off" from the three is Exeter and you'll find a few beautiful villages with good transport links on the Exeter - Exmouth line (Lympstone, Exton, Ebford).

Torbay has 3 grammar schools if that's important to you and the other secondary schools are mostly very good.

The South Hams between torbay and Plymouth are beautiful with no doubt many multi generational, large homes to choose from. They may prove a bit cut off in terms of public transport though and of course the further south you go the further away "civilisation" can feel.

whataboutbob · 12/01/2022 19:56

@StEval I didn’t know they had changed the time they consider for d of assets, thanks for correcting.

StEval · 12/01/2022 20:16

[quote whataboutbob]@StEval I didn’t know they had changed the time they consider for d of assets, thanks for correcting.[/quote]
I dont think it ever changed.
It was always muddled with Inheritance Tax

Woofwoofbarkbark · 12/01/2022 20:35

I like to think that the OP is intelligent enough to know that @FortunesFave is talking utter rubbish.

How they can think that the 500,000 odd children that live in Devon and Cornwall are all dumb and useless is beyond me.

Woofwoofbarkbark · 12/01/2022 20:37

Also OP. I highly recommend Devon. RD&E is a great hospital and the surrounding villages are lovely.

Cornisharchitect · 12/01/2022 20:38

It’s actually really insulting. I must be a really shit uneducated Cornish architect Hmm

Thanks for the memo Crystal Meg. I mean FortuneFaves

tilder · 12/01/2022 20:57

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MartyDoc · 12/01/2022 21:02

I’d echo @Juancornetto .. we are south west (Cornwall) originally from midlands - we love it but conscious that there isn’t always that much for older children / teenagers other than surfing. Transport links not great.
I would def consider a sensible radius around Exeter - good hospital in Exeter. Cornwall hospital always over run and on black alert. Exeter itself has good schools in and around, good shops and places to eat. Lovely villages around - Woodbury common, Ottery. Topsham. You’d have the beach in exmouth or maybe sidmouth. Lovely and flat, water sports etc. Not a bad journey to slightly bigger cities, Bath and Bristol.

grossnessewwww · 12/01/2022 21:23

How snobby about the schools.

I went to a North Devon secondary school in the 90's. It offered so much more in terms of subjects and opportunity than the school I eventually moved to in the south East.

Some kids went on to do medicine or went to Oxbridge. Some kids worked locally in tourism. So what? - doesn't make them bad people.

Dreamingofasmallholding · 12/01/2022 21:24

Thank you all. I personally think weather is much of a muchness across most of the UK and not that bothered anyway, it's only my mother that thinks otherwise!

Deprivation of assets is not a major concern. As we would be substantially reducing our mortgage or even going mortgage free in the event or a merged property, if we later had to remortgage for any reason that would be doable. Whilst not having to do so would be a major perk, we wouldn't have lost out on anything financially or be risking our family home if deprivation of assets came in to effect. I have a job with ready access to additional income also.

Overall, Somerset or Dorset feel like better options in order to not be quite so remote / cut off from the rest of the country (and our other friends and family) and for our children into their teenage years. Whilst still a lovely distance from Devon and Cornwall for visits and holidays. It's been really useful to hear from everyone so thank you.

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Tistheturkey · 12/01/2022 21:30

That is such rubbish.
The county isn't rammed there are many many beaches that you can choose from. I speak as a Devonian and it's a wonderful county to live in.

Charley50 · 12/01/2022 21:32

Bridport?

vastgrandupgrade · 12/01/2022 21:39

The southwest isn’t really sunny a lot of the time. It’s mild and wet, and often cloudy and murky in autumn and winter. The east of the country is much sunnier. Norfolk would be a better choice if you want sun.

mrsnec · 12/01/2022 22:14

I'm originally from Surrey/West Sussex border, have family in Somerset and have lived in Dorset.

My parents retired to South Hams twenty years ago. I have recently moved to Devon from abroad to be closer to them.

I could have chosen anywhere. I'm not that keen on South Hams. The towns are crowded, takes ages to get anywhere and Totnes has a weird vibe even though I always think I'd love it. Also the villages are a bit remote for me. Where my parents live there's no pavement or street lights,the bus is twice a week and the park has a helipad for the air ambulance. It feels far too isolated.

But I looked at Torquay and Paignton and it was one extreme to the other.

So I went middle ground. Moved to Newton abbot and love it. The people are really friendly, beach and countryside nearby great road and rail network. My dc haven't started school yet but it looks great. And there's loads for kids of all ages from what I can see.

I find it's friendlier and better value for money than Dorset for sure.

lochmaree · 12/01/2022 22:19

Taunton area? Musgrove hospital on the South West side of Taunton, I think Taunton has a reasonable amount going on, reasonably quick transport links to Exeter and Bristol, lovely countryside over the Somerset levels, Blackdown hills, Quantocks. Coast not too far either north to Somerset and north Devon beaches, or down to the south coast.

if you got some land, could you split it and each have your own section and house?

Dreamingofasmallholding · 12/01/2022 23:03

Lochmaree yes that is the plan exactly, not to live in the same house but in 2 separate houses on the same property - they do exist and much better value for money (and benefitting from shared garden space etc) than purchasing 2 separate properties. I would want to feel like neighbours rather than living in the same house.

We do already live semi rurally in a small village with no street lights and no public transport routes outside our house etc. Yes, around Taunton seems good!

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westcountryfaithful · 13/01/2022 06:12

We lived before having the dc in south Devon. Beautiful place and we loved the walking and living on the coast.

However we decided after our first that it was a bit remote. I come from London and we spent vast amounts of time travelling up and down the m5 m4 to visit my DM and friends.

We feel more comfortable now living in Gloucestershire. If we were in yr position now I’d consider living somewhere in the Cheltenham Gloucester area. Good hospitals lots of good schooling and some future proofing for when the dc get older.

Having the parents nearby/ your sibling sounds ideal. We won’t get my dm out of her London house any time soon and we missed the window really when she was a bit younger. My Dh eventually moved his mother from her house in Essex to a care home locally but again it would have been much better to have done this before she got frail and needed more care.

You’re a bit younger than us but yes there is an inevitability about these things and you are having these thoughts at def the right time

Good luck!

daisyjgrey · 13/01/2022 06:39

@randomsabreuse

Some of the more rural mid/North Devon and North Cornwall secondary schools are limited by numbers in what they can offer- certainly in the past not all offered science GCSEs, only offering BTEC/agricultural focused exams which would limit long term options.

What the absolute shit are you talking about.

Juancornetto · 13/01/2022 07:24

It's definitely sunnier and warmer in Cornwall than up here in Cheshire my family always comment on it when they visit. But we have lighter evenings in the summer

mrsnec · 13/01/2022 08:47

If you are used to Rural then you will be fine but if you need access to medical care quickly then I agree Devon and Cornwall might not be for you. Having said that my parents cope with it no problem.

If you are used to Surrey villages, Ashprington, Tuckenhay, Harburtonford remind us of places like Dunsfold, Chiddingfold and Alfold 30 years ago!

Be aware you might find Surrey prices in South Hams though.

I think it's a great idea in principle OP but it might come down to the property itself rather than the actual location. My DB has been looking for something similar in Dorset for 4 years with a 1M budget and not found anything yet.

And I agree Somerset is a good shout too.and I'd be tempted to look at Wiltshire. You might get more for your money there and it was where I was thinking of going if I didn't find what I wanted in Devon.

Passanotherjaffacake · 13/01/2022 16:53

Dorset is where I grew up and the secondary there is really good now. But very little to do for teenagers and we left as soon as possible! Somerset might be better for being nearer to bath and Bristol.

Careful with Devon, north devon is beautiful, some family lived there but only managed a year as it was so wet for 9 months of the year. When they pointed out the moss growing on the trees I saw their point! I still love it (got married there) but not sure I would live there. Xx

daisyjgrey · 13/01/2022 17:17

I am very much enjoying all this anecdotal chat about living in Devon. No science GCSE and farming diplomas instead? Rain 9 months a year? Secondary schools full of undesirables with half a brain and one eye. How we all survive down here in our mud huts with a reading age of 6 I'll never know.

Cornisharchitect · 13/01/2022 17:29

@daisyjgrey

I am very much enjoying all this anecdotal chat about living in Devon. No science GCSE and farming diplomas instead? Rain 9 months a year? Secondary schools full of undesirables with half a brain and one eye. How we all survive down here in our mud huts with a reading age of 6 I'll never know.
Its hilarious 😂 no Science GCSEs? Cornwall actually has a stem science school (Nexus if anyone wants a Google)

Can’t win on Mumsnet sometimes. Last week I was called Middle Class just because I’m an architect and on another thread someone said that only rich people can afford to live here.

This week we’re all scum, with no science education.

Do I live in a house with glass balustrades or do I live in a soggy mud hut? 😂

BurnedToast · 13/01/2022 17:50

Grin there's some right half wits on here.

HotHointheavo · 13/01/2022 17:54

Forest of Dean? Ross on Wye? Monmouth at a push