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What's wrong with this home listing?

106 replies

Goneback2school · 16/11/2021 15:13

I am in Ireland so the market is different but this house went up for sale nearly a month ago and there hasn't even been one enquiry or viewing. Is there anything that could/should be done to improve the ad and get someone interested in it?
www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-21-strawberry-hill-enniscorthy-co-wexford/3585313

OP posts:
prettypinkflamingo · 16/11/2021 18:59

I can't comment on price or area but if I was looking at the listing I would be put off by...
Lack of floorplan. My absolute pet hate on rightmove. No floor plan and I scroll straight on to the next.
Without the floor plan I can't visualise those rooms with less head height.
I wouldn't want the furniture etc automatically left. Give me the option but I'm not saving you a trip to the tip for things I also don't want.
Kitchen and bathroom look dated so would be factoring in these future costs.
That shed is massive and I would need to move it or get rid of it.
I would need to replace the fence in the back garden....too open to the pathway outside.
The obvious dog pen makes me wonder if the house would smell doggy/be hairy. Wouldn't put me off if everything else was perfect but, along with other snags, it would put me off making a viewing. Not everyone's opinion but i have allergies and this would be an extra hassle.

eveningbubble · 16/11/2021 19:07

I think the interior is fine, bit of a question as to how furniture fits into the loft rooms and a floor plan would be a great addition, but the one reason why personally I would skim past it is the lack of privacy. The public footpath running alongside the spaced fence. Even if the fence were replaced, it just feels insecure.

mathanxiety · 16/11/2021 19:12

The house needs to be staged and the rooms, especially the view into the sitting room from the front, need to be better lit for the photos. The house comes across as cold and bare.

The back garden is overlooked and the big shed gets in the way of opening up the space.

I would be worried that I would wake up one fine morning to find a lorry had veered off the road and straight into the front of the house.

The front garden needs to have a wall around it, or a hedge. I'd rip up some of those bleak bricks and put in grass or flowers - anything but a big expanse of bricks leading straight onto a road.

Bunclody is a lovely town in a very scenic area.

How much are comparable houses priced at?

mathanxiety · 16/11/2021 19:15

Also, the listing needs more photos. All the bedrooms need photos, and so does the en suite (or maybe the one bathroom pic was the en suite?)

Goneback2school · 16/11/2021 19:34

Taking on board the feedback, though want to clarify a few things mentioned.
The fence is double layered so you can't see in from outside. Also it's in a small development of 35 houses, nowhere near a main road so hopefully lorries careening out of control will never be an issue to worry about!

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Marblessolveeverything · 16/11/2021 19:38

Familiar with the area, I would say price. Position, very exposed front to path and road I would want a barrier between road and front door. Back garden, shed and dog pen would need to go. Rooms are small I know this is due to new build but looking at what is a available in the area not enough value for my buck. We were looking to buy in the wider area for my parents to retire to and would be viewing four beds in that price range with big gardens.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 16/11/2021 19:45

OP, why did you buy the house? Location, schools, South facing garden, something else? Maybe somehow get the EA to include that. If you loved it, so will someone else.

Marblessolveeverything · 16/11/2021 20:29

Just had a quick Google which is what I would do before I would organise a viewing. A few things popped up houses beside you no. 22, were sold as a lot of three houses back in 2014 to me that could mean they are owned and rented to HA etc. This might not be the case but google throws it up when address goes in. The same house style, no 14 went for 135k back in Dec 2020 according to Property register. These are things that could rule it off someone's list this is how I approach planning which properties I view. Hope it helps to give an insight into buyers mind.

TheCreamCaker · 16/11/2021 20:32

It's a beautiful house and looks a good size. Overpriced?

callmeadoctor · 16/11/2021 22:51

@Goneback2school

Thanks for all the input. I'll try address some of the points: It's interesting that the garden is perceived as small, it's possibly the biggest on the road. It is oddly shaped though as it follows the curve of the road. The bit at the end was our dog pen. The shed is big but has an electric supply and built in storage. There is also space behind for storing logs/ coal for the stove. So maybe a selling point for the right buyer?? A two bed bungalow across the road sold in the last few months for €165,000 so how low would you go on price? The house is spread over 3 floors, has a downstairs cloakroom (not pictured), an en-suite and main bathroom- both are pictured. All rooms advertised as bedrooms have full height ceilings and built in wardrobes. The second floor which is an attic conversion has sloped ceilings in landing and other room which was being used as teen bedroom but can't be advertised as such because of the ceiling.
Ive searched and searched but cant find a picture of both bathrooms!!!! The outlook from the patio doors would drive me bonkers, a big green shed. I would have to have that removed. Actually its the garden that puts me off the most. The rest of the house is ok although unremarkable.
callmeadoctor · 16/11/2021 22:52

The stove in front of the fireplace that it doesnt fit in is a bit odd too. Kitchen is fine.

callmeadoctor · 16/11/2021 22:54

Was the shed there when you bought the house? Its an awful place to have situated it.

Suzanne999 · 16/11/2021 23:19

The estate agent should include a floor plan. Also ( can’t think what you’d call it, brain fog moment) North/South thing to show where sun rises/sets.
I can always see past furniture so a house that looks spare or is the opposite never bothers me.
Does Get Agent cover Ireland? I found it helpful in choosing an agent and actually went for a smaller agency, not so long established in the town, based on their stats. Sold in a week.

Suzanne999 · 16/11/2021 23:22

Wretched brain fog!!!
Also missing from EA details —- he’s not made anything of the en suite, downstairs loo or the possibility of office/study space or possibly teen space at the top of the house.
Your garden is neat and clean, looks easy to maintain but could also be filled with plants, veg, fruit by a gardener. More should be made of it’s plus points and potential.
Think the EA is rather lacking.

BrilloSolar · 16/11/2021 23:45

Looks like a very 'standard' Irish house listing. I think a lot of things are throwing people off here if they are not used to it, so discount those ones: oil heating- normal, stove in fire- normal, empty house with a bit of random furniture- normal, downstairs toilet counted in the 3 'bathrooms' - normal, ugly shed in garden - completely normal! Lack of floor plans always drives me crazy in Ireland, but I can only usually find one in about 10% of listings at most.

We're looking for a house (different area) and this looks like a good standard of house and decent listing. So I can say you can only go with above comments that it must be the price if you've had no viewings at all.

beatrice82 · 17/11/2021 00:05

Get rid of green shed blocking garden.

Get rid of shelving in lounge.

Add fresh flowers in kitchen.

Add beds so room size can be seen more accurately.

Looks like a nice house to me.

supremelybaffled · 17/11/2021 00:06

The big plant in the pot out the front looks dead, and there is an oil stain on the brick driveway, which might be off-putting to the pernickerty. Also get rid of the dog pen fence thing at the end of the garden, it looks horrid. So does the last picture, of what seems to be the road.

To be honest, the photos aren't great, they are unflattering and don't include the ensuite or the downstairs loo, and with no floor plan, people will scroll on by.

starfishmummy · 17/11/2021 00:25

The garden looks odd and is overlooked. Also the shed is very dominant. House looks OK from the pictures but I'd like to see a plan.

IWishIWasABaller · 17/11/2021 00:33

Are you in enniscorthy or bunclody op ? I think the price is good , we are looking for a house ourselves at the moment and the prices are sky high ! I think that the main pic makes it look like it's an extension tacked onto the house next door, maybe its the angle ? Also a floor plan is badly needed . I genuinely think it's a lovely house clean and well presented certainly doesn't need staging at all. Just think it's the weird angles in some of the pics that make it look a bit strange - maybe less pics ?

IWishIWasABaller · 17/11/2021 00:34

Also agree with brillosolars post , all definitely very standard in Irish houses!

UhOhOops · 17/11/2021 05:00

Dog pen. For me that screams that there is likely to have been a (probably untrained, people-unfriendly) dog living here that couldn't be trusted to be left to roam the house or garden unsupervised. I'm also imagining a hosed-off-weekly concrete corner of the garden where dog poo has been accumulated. Yak.

Green shed is massively dominating the garden in that position. I'd be considering moving it well away from the house as it's obstructing the view of a good chunk of the garden.

First picture on the listing seems to demonstrate that house is awkwardly overlooked / crowded. See if you can get another pic taken a few metres to the right without the next house back in view.

You need a floor plan so that folk can work out what's what. It's not a typical 3-bed property, buyers need to know what's where before considering a viewing.

There's lots of different shades of wood in the house, you probably wouldn't see it as much if there was furniture in. But I viewed/bought my house unfurnished so I wouldn't have thought that made such a difference. Take down the plane, tidy the curtains, get some better pics taken that aren't the fish-eye type. Rooms without pics instil all sorts of 'what's she got to hide' vibes.

It's always the price. No idea about your local market but bungalows attract a considerable premium so you're not comparing like for like. It will sell, eventually, it depends how much you want to reduce it by.

icklekid · 17/11/2021 05:18

“The shed is big but has an electric supply and built in storage. There is also space behind for storing logs/ coal for the stove. So maybe a selling point for the right buyer??”

Then you need to make it a selling point with good photos showing the potential. At the
Moment it is splitting up what would otherwise be a really good size garden and it really is quite an eye sore. The fact it has power etc means it will be harder to just take down and turf over which was what I was going to suggest.

I think the feedback you are posting here needs to be provided to estate agent for them to update listing. You describe it far better than they have.

Sadly no viewing is always price!

SoupDragon · 17/11/2021 07:42

The shed is big but has an electric supply and built in storage

It's also really really ugly. Some attempt at disguising it might be good.

I agree that none of the positives come across from the listing.

oviraptor21 · 17/11/2021 09:21

From the photos the house looks nice and clean with very little that would put a serious purchaser off.

The kerb appeal could be improved by prettying up the front and by some small rearrangements in some of the rooms. The fact you can get all those sofas in the lounge would be a huge selling point if you can convey that better. I'd take the shower curtain down.

I think the way the property is overlooked is pretty common in the kinds of estate that it's on. I guess one could say something like friendly community (ie don't want to be blocking out the neighbours!) to mitigate that.

The shed is the worst bit - to have it dominating the view from the dining table is unfortunate and short of knocking it down, impossible to properly remedy. I guess the best thing would be to grow some climbers up the front and to big up its use. There will be people that would see it as a plus but almost certainly more that it would put off.

I don't see the dog area as a problem - easy to remedy and could be useful to some. Just put some plants in tubs in front of it.

Agree with PP about floor plan including aspect if favourable.

user1471538283 · 18/11/2021 09:56

I really like it. It is modern and fresh but I dont mind empty houses. I would want to see a floor plan and I wouldnt want the furniture included. It will however probably be the price putting people off

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