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housetales · 12/09/2021 21:21

Our house has been on the market for 2 months - launching as the school holidays started which I think was a huge mistake - with what I'd describe as a handful of viewings (mostly right as it went live).

The price it's been listed at was the agent's price, not ours, and when compared with others locally, doesn't seem OTT. All the agents who came round gave similar valuations too. No viewers have said upon viewing it that it is overpriced either.

We had only one bit of negative feedback and it was only from a couple of viewers, not all - that we are overlooked from the side of our property - so we purchased some 10ft trees to allay that concern.

I'm putting myself out there with a link to see what you guys think so be gentle! Should we stay on the market or take it off for now? I should say we only went on the market as we fancied a project for our forever home and were told there was a massive opportunity in our price range as there is such limited supply.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/110082437#/?channel=RES_BUY

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Dixiechickonhols · 13/09/2021 11:08

I’m surprised you’ve had a stager in already (criticism of stager not you!) It’s a lovely spacious house. If you like house and area but want a project you could easily do it here - bi fold doors, new kitchen etc. Best wishes whatever you decide to do.

PicardyRose · 13/09/2021 11:11

It’s far nicer than my house - more spacious, nicer furniture, better state of repair and decoration and not as overlooked, from as far as I can tell!

Flowers500 · 13/09/2021 11:16

If you want to sell quickly and at highest price possible, personally I would approach this from the angle of (a) minimise the weaknesses and (b) identity maybe 5 or 6 areas to introduce “wow” moments. When you’re wanting someone to fall in love and pay the higher price, you need to help create that moment.

-get PP for a fully extended modern kitchen but don’t build it. However do upgrade current kitchen with new colour, some new artwork (big) and some new lighting. Replace the countertops with something that looks expensive, likewise the handles. Style it maline with a bit of le creuset and some luxurious bits like e.g. a gorgeous kettle? It’s not going to be a super glam kitchen without a major spend, I think you should pump up the heart and get everything in place for new owner to do it.

You can make the finish and interest of a house way more wow through changing the styling—and that way you can bring it with you! New couches, some new lighting (big, modern, dramatic), new rugs, new artwork for walls—not telling you to actually buy a Rothko but look at these sort of scale pieces where you can put a modern couch underneath and scream “design”. Likewise groupings of matching paintings—e.g. 3,3,3 under each other—over a couch or dining table. Things need to be the right scale for the house—it’s large with big rooms, you should be looking at hotels and other big houses for inspiration, not smaller houses.

The rooms are boxy so they need sensitive dressing—I would get a stylist/stager. Things like how you place furniture, pictures on walls, mood lighting etc make an enormous difference. A good stylist will create the focal points these rooms need.

Your master bedroom needs to be pumped up—get a stylist and give them a brief life hotel sexcation, you want it to scream luxury in a kind of “dramatic, luxury hotel where rich people go to shag” kind of way. bathroom: in a kind of marble and mood lighting way. I would spend a bit of money on this bathroom with a similar brief—I think your target audience (you mention footballers!) would love this.

Your styling needs to pump up the drama a bit and to get a luxury feel without a lot of colour, you need to think TEXTURE and introducing some large objects of scale. You want areas in each room that grab the idea and give you a glamorous magazine moment—like a couch under a fabulous painting where you’d want to get your picture taken at a bar, that kind of vibe. Your house is big so it can absorb it. I’d love to see what a stylist would suggest for the hallway—I think it needs something oversize like a big lighting feature to pump up the drama.

In terms of colour, you need to kill the yellow—it doesn’t work. Yellow is good in period homes for a luxury look but I don’t get it in this context. It’s also a divisive colour. An interior designer could help with the palette, bun anything yellow!

Wait you have loads of books? Stage a fabulous home library room, make it a little fun and over the top—not a space for reading necessarily but an incredible executive study or somewhere fun for drinks parties. The kind of family buying this will likely be working from home and in a very senior post, a library study that screams “yes I am very important professional with large penis” might be a good selling point but easy to do.

Don’t touch the hot tub, yes many people will hate it but they’re not your target market!

For the garden I would get a landscaper and ask them what’s the highest drama planting scheme we can do with shortest bedding time and lowest price. We want to give the garden a less body shape, hide the boundaries, create a “wow” entertaining space (for a photo!) and pump up the drama.

Front of house: get the drive cleaned (in general you want everything to look as new as possible!) and maybe a few dramatic glam plants like white hydrangeas in pots? I wouldn’t go for colourful plants too much as they scream suburban semi, you want white hydrangeas, white or red roses, those weird dead Bush things that are all over Instagram.

Do mention the annex—can be sold for multigenerational living or as a staff/guest house.

tigerbear · 13/09/2021 11:16

Just taken a look, and it says your agent has taken it off the market??!

whatthejiggeries · 13/09/2021 11:22

It's not my cup of tea but I have plenty of friends who love houses like that. Agree with others that the kitchen lets it down a bit. Being overlooked is part of being in a modern house so I don't think that's an issue. I have no idea whether it's priced right but I would say IMO it's not a patch on the one that went for 1.3m and whilst pools are marmite that's only in a small garden - if you put a pool in yours you would put off viewers but in a bigger plot it's a plus. It's got to be price though because the house is exactly what you would expect of that type of house so I can't see what else it could be?

Starseeking · 13/09/2021 11:23

Your house is lovely OP, so spacious and light. You've gone overboard on the decluttering though, bring those books back down form the loft ASAP, and stage an area as a cosy library!

Regarding the kitchen, I would refresh it perhaps with me doors, handles and paint, nothing more. I might buy new bathroom suites as well to freshen them up.

One odd thing is the ambiguity over freehold/leasehold, which opens the description. On a private estate with gated entrance, I'd be thinking about service charges/unexpected costs, and not wanting to pay those, so would bypass your property for that reason (despite me not actually having the budget or the inclination to move from London!), as I'd expect it to be freehold, and would not even view otherwise.

housetales · 13/09/2021 11:24

@tigerbear

Just taken a look, and it says your agent has taken it off the market??!
Yes, as of this morning on our instruction. We are going to action lots of the feedback we've received here.
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ItWearsTheBatteriesOut · 13/09/2021 11:25

I'm not being facetious, I just baulk at saying that because if I say yeah we are, well we are dickish then! Round here, there's some serious wealth and I totally maintain my imposter syndrome! I am not one of these proper successful people. I'm just taking little steps forward everyday. Hope that makes sense.

But it is disingenuous to say otherwise. On a post where honesty is being asked for it wouldn't be dickish to accept that you are wealthy.

The comment about it looking like his wife has left him is spot on. Especially the kitchen. But adding some stuff back is a good problem to have. The house is beautiful.

housetales · 13/09/2021 11:25

@Flowers500

If you want to sell quickly and at highest price possible, personally I would approach this from the angle of (a) minimise the weaknesses and (b) identity maybe 5 or 6 areas to introduce “wow” moments. When you’re wanting someone to fall in love and pay the higher price, you need to help create that moment.

-get PP for a fully extended modern kitchen but don’t build it. However do upgrade current kitchen with new colour, some new artwork (big) and some new lighting. Replace the countertops with something that looks expensive, likewise the handles. Style it maline with a bit of le creuset and some luxurious bits like e.g. a gorgeous kettle? It’s not going to be a super glam kitchen without a major spend, I think you should pump up the heart and get everything in place for new owner to do it.

You can make the finish and interest of a house way more wow through changing the styling—and that way you can bring it with you! New couches, some new lighting (big, modern, dramatic), new rugs, new artwork for walls—not telling you to actually buy a Rothko but look at these sort of scale pieces where you can put a modern couch underneath and scream “design”. Likewise groupings of matching paintings—e.g. 3,3,3 under each other—over a couch or dining table. Things need to be the right scale for the house—it’s large with big rooms, you should be looking at hotels and other big houses for inspiration, not smaller houses.

The rooms are boxy so they need sensitive dressing—I would get a stylist/stager. Things like how you place furniture, pictures on walls, mood lighting etc make an enormous difference. A good stylist will create the focal points these rooms need.

Your master bedroom needs to be pumped up—get a stylist and give them a brief life hotel sexcation, you want it to scream luxury in a kind of “dramatic, luxury hotel where rich people go to shag” kind of way. bathroom: in a kind of marble and mood lighting way. I would spend a bit of money on this bathroom with a similar brief—I think your target audience (you mention footballers!) would love this.

Your styling needs to pump up the drama a bit and to get a luxury feel without a lot of colour, you need to think TEXTURE and introducing some large objects of scale. You want areas in each room that grab the idea and give you a glamorous magazine moment—like a couch under a fabulous painting where you’d want to get your picture taken at a bar, that kind of vibe. Your house is big so it can absorb it. I’d love to see what a stylist would suggest for the hallway—I think it needs something oversize like a big lighting feature to pump up the drama.

In terms of colour, you need to kill the yellow—it doesn’t work. Yellow is good in period homes for a luxury look but I don’t get it in this context. It’s also a divisive colour. An interior designer could help with the palette, bun anything yellow!

Wait you have loads of books? Stage a fabulous home library room, make it a little fun and over the top—not a space for reading necessarily but an incredible executive study or somewhere fun for drinks parties. The kind of family buying this will likely be working from home and in a very senior post, a library study that screams “yes I am very important professional with large penis” might be a good selling point but easy to do.

Don’t touch the hot tub, yes many people will hate it but they’re not your target market!

For the garden I would get a landscaper and ask them what’s the highest drama planting scheme we can do with shortest bedding time and lowest price. We want to give the garden a less body shape, hide the boundaries, create a “wow” entertaining space (for a photo!) and pump up the drama.

Front of house: get the drive cleaned (in general you want everything to look as new as possible!) and maybe a few dramatic glam plants like white hydrangeas in pots? I wouldn’t go for colourful plants too much as they scream suburban semi, you want white hydrangeas, white or red roses, those weird dead Bush things that are all over Instagram.

Do mention the annex—can be sold for multigenerational living or as a staff/guest house.

This is such an awesome post - so much good detail and great ideas in here!

“dramatic, luxury hotel where rich people go to shag” - I think if we achieve this, hubby and I would stay! I mean, we'd not want to get out of bed would we?

This is definitely one of the top posts on this thread for detail and I'm really thankful you decided to help me. Karma back to you lovely x

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Doris86 · 13/09/2021 11:26

Will you be auctioning the ‘price is too high’ feedback?. Moving furniture etc really isn’t going to help.

Flowers500 · 13/09/2021 11:26

Your stager told you to do this?!?!?? Which furniture did they recommend?!? The thing is the house style is a bit too Taylor Wimpey so you need to fight this in staging to not reinforce that sense. If the stylist recommended that couch or those stripey premier inn cushions then I am SO ANGRY on your behalf!

If we’re talking dining room: you’re on the right track there with your table and chairs. However the space looks totally underwhelming due to (a) limp garage flowers and (b) small underwhelming mirror from dunelm. The colour is fine and the furniture is good, but you need something big and dramatic on the wall here like an abstract painting or a 3 metre long framed mirror—this is where your fictional fabulous dinner parties happen, where centrepieces are £200 roses, the lighting is dramatic, the space has a wow.

Likewise the bedroom—did they do that wallpaper?!

Flowers500 · 13/09/2021 11:27

😘😘😘😘😘 you’ve got the bones of it there, the house is perfect for the right people and you can get it over the line!!

Fink · 13/09/2021 11:28

The price was still not right then. If you’d lowered the price even further it would have sold.

We kept on dropping the price. At one point we had the house on the market for less than £1000, just to see if we could shift it (death in the family, job relocation, and divorce all hit at once, we were pretty desperate to get rid of it and move on). No viewings. We rented it out for a couple of years and then sold (with no work done in between) for around £140k. Believe me, it wasn't the price that was the issue.

Wishingwell75 · 13/09/2021 11:30

OP, I am so sorry that some of the comments upset you and if any of mine did, I apologise.
You took the constructive criticism on and have been nothing but good humoured.
The house - your current home in which you've had your children and hopefully countless happy times is lovely, truly it is.
I didn't look at anything but the photos and estate agent pictures are never the best, are they.
All of the experts tell you to remove anything personal to your family but is that really a one size fits all piece of advice or is it out of date? When I think of houses I like in magazines it's the individuality and signs of family life that stand out and make me like like a place.
The kitchen. The problem is that kitchens have become fashion and fashion changes all the time. Magazines, films and especially t.v. series will feature the kitchen of the moment be it glossy white or dark and mysterious, all with the ubiquitous island and it becomes a character in itself! But the problem with fashion is the way it changes so quickly and kitchens aren't cheap!
Yours is large, we'll set up and you can cook in it! Taste is so personal and you'll never please everyone, so please yourself. I think it's crazy to spend loads just to have your buyer want to put their own stamp on it because the rest of the place is already done and perfect!
It's good to be open to feedback but ultimately you have a gorgeous home that will be perfect for someone! X

housetales · 13/09/2021 11:33

@Flowers500

Your stager told you to do this?!?!?? Which furniture did they recommend?!? The thing is the house style is a bit too Taylor Wimpey so you need to fight this in staging to not reinforce that sense. If the stylist recommended that couch or those stripey premier inn cushions then I am SO ANGRY on your behalf!

If we’re talking dining room: you’re on the right track there with your table and chairs. However the space looks totally underwhelming due to (a) limp garage flowers and (b) small underwhelming mirror from dunelm. The colour is fine and the furniture is good, but you need something big and dramatic on the wall here like an abstract painting or a 3 metre long framed mirror—this is where your fictional fabulous dinner parties happen, where centrepieces are £200 roses, the lighting is dramatic, the space has a wow.

Likewise the bedroom—did they do that wallpaper?!

They didn't suggest the "premier inn" living room soft furnishings or my bedroom wallpaper. Those are me. Clearly I'm a tramp!

The dining room furniture was their suggestion as was the wall colour. The mirror is actually really big. You think I should go bigger?

Agreeing with the art and yes I want to sell the dream that we have lush dinner parties, not that I refuse to let my children breathe in that general direction. Grin

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NoMoreJam21 · 13/09/2021 11:33

Sadly or happily depending on the way you look at it, there is a price for everything.

Our old flat in Central London was on the market and had no viewings. We dropped the price £40K - remember it was a lot less in those days so dropped it from £440k to £400k.

We had 10 viewers within a week and it sold within a month.

Also, you like yellow. I don't. It wouldn't be a deal breaker but I'd suggest trying to have other colours in your home when you come to sell. I shouldn't really be dishing out advice as I love blue... Grin

kirinm · 13/09/2021 11:35

I personally wouldn't buy a new build but I think the house looks great as does the garden (I have a woodland type garden (a lot of trees etc) and dream of something as immaculate as this).

I think it looks slightly dated - as many others have said, mainly the bathrooms and kitchen. Were you selling it at a price that takes into account the need for some updating - if not, then I think people would be taking that into account.

I think you've been pretty amazing to take the comments so well OP. I'm not sure I could do it!

housetales · 13/09/2021 11:35

@Starseeking

Your house is lovely OP, so spacious and light. You've gone overboard on the decluttering though, bring those books back down form the loft ASAP, and stage an area as a cosy library!

Regarding the kitchen, I would refresh it perhaps with me doors, handles and paint, nothing more. I might buy new bathroom suites as well to freshen them up.

One odd thing is the ambiguity over freehold/leasehold, which opens the description. On a private estate with gated entrance, I'd be thinking about service charges/unexpected costs, and not wanting to pay those, so would bypass your property for that reason (despite me not actually having the budget or the inclination to move from London!), as I'd expect it to be freehold, and would not even view otherwise.

The agent said RightMove are putting that on all listings at the moment. Our property is of course freehold.
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NoMoreJam21 · 13/09/2021 11:36

Also your house looks beautiful. I wouldn't change anything. As a buyer there's nothing that would put me off. I would be looking almost certainly at a new kitchen as it looks a bit dated but other than that, everything else is cosmetic. And the kitchen is functional. Perfectly OK.

Just keep going as you are, or drop the price. Good luck.

housetales · 13/09/2021 11:36

@ItWearsTheBatteriesOut

I'm not being facetious, I just baulk at saying that because if I say yeah we are, well we are dickish then! Round here, there's some serious wealth and I totally maintain my imposter syndrome! I am not one of these proper successful people. I'm just taking little steps forward everyday. Hope that makes sense.

But it is disingenuous to say otherwise. On a post where honesty is being asked for it wouldn't be dickish to accept that you are wealthy.

The comment about it looking like his wife has left him is spot on. Especially the kitchen. But adding some stuff back is a good problem to have. The house is beautiful.

I'm sorry I come across as disingenuous. I'm loaded Grin. Nope, that's horrid. I do ok for myself. We'll have to leave it there.
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housetales · 13/09/2021 11:37

@Flowers500

😘😘😘😘😘 you’ve got the bones of it there, the house is perfect for the right people and you can get it over the line!!
Bless you Flowers
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Doris86 · 13/09/2021 11:38

@Doris86

Will you be auctioning the ‘price is too high’ feedback?. Moving furniture etc really isn’t going to help.
No response so I’ll take that as a no then!
Starseeking · 13/09/2021 11:39

I would go back and query that with your agent OP, and insist on it being included. The house I'm currently buying (originally listed on Rightmove in July), states this clearly, as attached.

No offers on our house
housetales · 13/09/2021 11:39

@NoMoreJam21

Sadly or happily depending on the way you look at it, there is a price for everything.

Our old flat in Central London was on the market and had no viewings. We dropped the price £40K - remember it was a lot less in those days so dropped it from £440k to £400k.

We had 10 viewers within a week and it sold within a month.

Also, you like yellow. I don't. It wouldn't be a deal breaker but I'd suggest trying to have other colours in your home when you come to sell. I shouldn't really be dishing out advice as I love blue... Grin

I've got to say it - there's NO YELLOW. The pictures may make it so but the living room stripes are a muted lime green and blue.
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housetales · 13/09/2021 11:41

@doris86 it won't let me quote you. No I'm not dropping the price. No point selling if it won't give us the money to make our next move. We stay put and improve.

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