Someone posted a link to this show home on Reddit

[StanfordPines]

They wanted to comment on how small it was, and I agree.
I thought I’d share.
I’d be interested to see measurements and know how much they are asking for it.

www.revolutionviewing.co.uk/persimmon-homes/generic/the-morden/1/360/v-2/index.html?fs=true

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Its around 230k near me

I live in a similar house (much worse garden though) and its the lack of storage which is the worst. There is no where to put a hoover, ironing board or anything you might normally stash away. Ours also doesn't have a loft space so things like Christmas decs have to be kept in bedrooms

@polarpenguins

My db and sil bought a house like this. It is so tiny and of course they weren't on to have twins. Utter nightmare. I know people say they were raised in flats etc perhaps I'm old but when I was growing up despite being from a poverty town and none of our families having much money we all grew up in houses. Posh they weren't but space made all the difference, reduced arguments, allowed area just to 'get away' when you need 5 mins of room. I feel so sorry now as it appears to be a lot more normal or have no space. I think I could have lived in that alone or with dh but I don't think many people can easily move once their in their first home and then have dc so you get trapped and i can say from my brothers experience it really is not nice.

I grew up in a flat but it was a lot bigger than that house! We had 2 good sized bedrooms one with 2 built in cupboards. A really long hall. A big walk in cupboard off the hall. A massive living room/dining room the whole width of the flat. A good sized kitchen and a pretty normal bathroom. It was great. There was also green outdoor space outside the flats for me to play with my friends. I'd much rather that over this shoe box of a house.

@MrWendel

We looked at new builds, and live in one. Lack of storage is a big issue. We looked at 3 bed ones in the 300 price range where you could only get a waldrobe in one bedroom with a double bed (and to do that you needed to not be able to walk round the bed)

The bedroom had an ensuite but nowhere to put a waldrobe! We asked for the ensuite to be left out for a dressing room but that's not allowed apparently

The lack of storage is the worst. Our house doesn't have the right kind of loft for storage and there is not one single cupboard (other than fitted kitchen) built in. The stairs are built in to the lounge, so no under stairs storage

I like this house, and its use of space is sp clever but we are moving due to a lack of storage. It is so impractical, everything from Christmas decs, ironing boards to hoovers, mops, painting equipment, DIY stuff or stuff you'd normally keep under the stairs or in the loft has to be kept in a bedroom or in a shed.

Both my sisters had their first babies in houses exactly like this, actually the same house as s1 sold hers to s2...

The only difference was the downstairs loo space was a cupboard under the stairs, much more sensible.

Funnily enough they were both married to neat freak husbands at the time so the space worked really well because they had no stuff or clutter.

My rented flat at one time was bigger but felt more cramped because I had two toddlers and I’m a messy bugger.

Me & DS1 used to live in a house about that size, upstairs layout exactly the same.

The downstairs loo is weird. Is it no longer a requirement to have 2 doors between a kitchen and loo? I think I would use it as a cupboard instead.

I think when you look at a house like this compared to older builds you don't realise how much smaller things are.
The older builds I lived in had wider hall ways, an airing cupboard and bigger bedrooms. Its only when I moved in that I realised shoe rack doesn't fit next to the door and there isn't a single cupboard so my hoover is kept in the narrow narrow hall. My old flat i rented wasn't much bigger but had loads more space to stash things.

Again as a starter home its not so bad, but this house is priced at 230k near me so you would expect somewhere to store a hoover

I would have loved a home like this when I was a single first time buyer. Perfect for someone busy with work and little time for cleaning or maintenance. Okay for a couple too, but not with added children. However, I would never buy a house from Persimmon in a million years.

We looked at buying a new build and asking for them not to build an ensuite so we could have storage. We were very firmly told that the house must be built with 3 bathrooms (in a 3 bed house!)

Obviously when you buy it you could convert, but when you buy it there is no option to ask to use it as storage

@BiarritzCrackers

It'll cost you £119,500 in Hartlepool! Guess it's more or less in other areas. That downstairs space is 22' 2'' x 12' 2'' (6.75m x 3.71m).

Is it as much as that? I'm about 20 minutes south of Hartlepool and for £121,000 got a 3 bed semi, considerably larger than that with a garage and decent sized gardens (1930s rather than new build though)

I'd have been thrilled with that as my first house!! Mine was a 1980s Barratt with a footprint of around half that, the kitchen bit was just big enough to stand in, and I had a spiral staircase in the lounge going up to my bedroom and bathroom.

I live on a new estate and most of the 2 beds are very similar to this in size, albeit the lounge and kitchen are divided. They go for about £180k.

My mum lives in a house like this, it's the perfect size for her, but a family of 4 lives in the identical house next door and I can't even begin to imagine how they cope, especially at the moment.

The asking price for that house would be approx £400 0000 + here.

£400 000+

I’m pretty sure current building regulations require a downstairs loo that can fit a wheelchair through the door. That explains the loo.

The house is ridiculously small and you can bet that the furniture is not full size. The government need to establish minimum room sizes before we all end up in the equivalent of capsule hotels. Round me they are building studio flats which are the size of hotel rooms.

My sister's two bed house is smaller than that downstairs and with no downstairs loo.

It is small but for a single person or couple it might be ok, I would worry about reselling though if there’s so many. No storage though
Due to clever photography you dont realise how small it is until you come to the one of the back garden and you get an idea of the actual width.

I think it depends how it is priced. If its a starter home that people can move out of when they out grow etc. Here it would not be affordable for 2 people on minimum wage

Based on current affordability stuff.... to get a mortgage from Halifax you would need to earn about 55k

Have a deposit of at least 23,000 (plus all the fees on top which is usually a few thousand)

And if you were only on a 10% deposit (most mortgages need 15% currently) looking at a thousand pounds a month upwards for the re payment

I would expect somewhere to store a hoover for that. Its not some basic house that everyone could afford. If this needs all this then what should single people have? Or people who both god forbid work closer to minimum wage eg 2 hca's, 2 new nurses.

And my niece has a similar size house which was £275k last year - SE within walking distance of a London Borough.

I think £400k is a bit of a stretch unless it's in (London) Zone 1.

Our first home together was a one-bedroomed flat, with bathroom off the kitchen. This little house would have been an absolute dream for us, with a garden and being on two storeys. The rooms are probably smaller than we had, but it's a much more appealing home.

Our first house was almost identical to that other than open plan living wasn't a 'thing' so there was a dividing wall between kitchen / living.

Built by Wimpey in 1996 and cost us £37,750 😮😮

I live in an 1890s 2 bed terrace. It's 4.5m x 9m . It's a good size for a couple, and we've converted the attic too. We'd burst out of the seams in that house.

We have very little storage even in this house and fall over a pile of shoes as we enter the house, as you go straight into the living room.

Tiny living is becoming a movement. Normally it's so that people can self build more affordably (in the States for example).

Nowadays people have less stuff (I'm thinking books, DVDs, CDs, magazines) as much of this consumption has moved online. Keeping that digital helps.

If you take tiny living concepts you could probably make this house work as a home. It would be good for a young couple no children or an older (but fit) couple who's children have left the nest.

A couple with younger children (bunk beds!) could make it work for a wee while.

Like with most things I suspect you could make it work...if you had to.

Do you notice the side return and the overhang from the building next door?

You'd definitely want the end terrace version of these houses. Mid terrace will seem even tinier.

[quote XPuppetry]@MrWendel

We looked at new builds, and live in one. Lack of storage is a big issue. We looked at 3 bed ones in the 300 price range where you could only get a waldrobe in one bedroom with a double bed (and to do that you needed to not be able to walk round the bed)

The bedroom had an ensuite but nowhere to put a waldrobe! We asked for the ensuite to be left out for a dressing room but that's not allowed apparently

The lack of storage is the worst. Our house doesn't have the right kind of loft for storage and there is not one single cupboard (other than fitted kitchen) built in. The stairs are built in to the lounge, so no under stairs storage

I like this house, and its use of space is sp clever but we are moving due to a lack of storage. It is so impractical, everything from Christmas decs, ironing boards to hoovers, mops, painting equipment, DIY stuff or stuff you'd normally keep under the stairs or in the loft has to be kept in a bedroom or in a shed.[/quote]
Thanks @XPuppetry - that's really interesting and yes, lack of storage would be such a pain. Good luck for your next move

What a waste of space that downstairs loo is - plus no privacy if you need to use it and have guests.